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joecubbie
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:27 am 
 

I think Streets should be labeled "melodic heavy metal/hard rock" as opposed to "heavy metal/hard rock". The AOR sensibilities are definitely present in the melodies, riffs, and synths.
1st: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FPAdU9U1R8
Crimes in Mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WsZgsHZbkU

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Traidor666
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:51 am 
 

Hey guise, sorry to be a bitch.
Incriminated from Mexico are labeled as Thrash/Punk band, and that cant be further from truth.
Its just Thrash Metal, as simple as that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77tBQy6iMQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJeDUxlDxs

is this the way to do this? im really sorry if it is not.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:19 am 
 

joecubbie wrote:
I think Streets should be labeled "melodic heavy metal/hard rock" as opposed to "heavy metal/hard rock". The AOR sensibilities are definitely present in the melodies, riffs, and synths.
1st: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FPAdU9U1R8
Crimes in Mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WsZgsHZbkU

That's actually not metal at all. Deleted. :P
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Midnight Rider
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:03 pm 
 

Traidor666 wrote:
Hey guise, sorry to be a bitch.
Incriminated from Mexico are labeled as Thrash/Punk band, and that cant be further from truth.
Its just Thrash Metal, as simple as that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77tBQy6iMQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJeDUxlDxs

is this the way to do this? im really sorry if it is not.

Dealt with. Genre modified.

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:55 am 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tr ... 3540343797

Listed as Black/Death/Heavy metal. I don't hear any black metal in this band's sound, and it is mostly a death metal record. There are maybe two quite "heavy metal" tracks on the album and a smattering of influences elsewhere, but I'd still probably just label this as Death Metal.

Album for stream here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXr2B3U ... PAtVA1p4D-
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:41 am 
 

The Canadian band Reversed is listed as death/speed metal here, but I do not hear any speed metal in their sound, the band is quite brutal and does not really sound like ¨Motorhead, Exciter or early Running Wild or early Helloween. I would propose death/black/thrash metal as their corrct genre, because I hear bands like Hellhammer, Celtic frost, early Sodom or Bathory in their sound Their are also hints of Death's Screams Of Bloody Gore and newer death/thrash bands like Usurper (USA) in their style. imo. Besides that , the band acknowledges their thrash and black metal influences in their bio ang the styles I have mentioned are also in their genre tags at Bandcamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UONi2PIYMU
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:25 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
The Canadian band Reversed is listed as death/speed metal here, but I do not hear any speed metal in their sound, the band is quite brutal and does not really sound like ¨Motorhead, Exciter or early Running Wild or early Helloween. I would propose death/black/thrash metal as their corrct genre, because I hear bands like Hellhammer, Celtic frost, early Sodom or Bathory in their sound Their are also hints of Death's Screams Of Bloody Gore and newer death/thrash bands like Usurper (USA) in their style. imo. Besides that , the band acknowledges their thrash and black metal influences in their bio ang the styles I have mentioned are also in their genre tags at Bandcamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UONi2PIYMU
https://reverseddeath.bandcamp.com/releases

Agreed. Death/Speed was silly.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:03 am 
 

TheGrimWombat wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tropic_of_Invocation/3540343797

Listed as Black/Death/Heavy metal. I don't hear any black metal in this band's sound, and it is mostly a death metal record. There are maybe two quite "heavy metal" tracks on the album and a smattering of influences elsewhere, but I'd still probably just label this as Death Metal.

Album for stream here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXr2B3U ... PAtVA1p4D-

Done.
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Krister Jensen
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:41 pm 
 

Midnight City changed genre to some alternative/nu metal with a new vocalist and appearance. The VK page now also states they were formed in 2015. All pre-2017 content has been removed from the page. So it seems that's what they intend to play now.
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Midnight Rider
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:17 pm 
 

Krister Jensen wrote:
Midnight City changed genre to some alternative/nu metal with a new vocalist and appearance. The VK page now also states they were formed in 2015. All pre-2017 content has been removed from the page. So it seems that's what they intend to play now.
2017 album | Soundcloud

I wouldn't go that far to call them nü-metal- it would be innacurate.
I'd say 75% of what they play now is poppy metalcore, the rest being some groove/alternative/nü metal stuff and some legit metal aswell.

Genre has been changed to "Progressive Metal (early), Metalcore/Alternative Rock (later)".

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TheUnhinged
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:18 pm 
 

I'm having a hard time finding doom metal in Electric Citizen's music. There are maybe one or two proper doom riffs in the mix, whereas the whole of it sounds like some kind of stoner/psych rock. I guess stoner metal wouldn't be wrong, but this is way too happy, upbeat, and rocking to be real doom metal. Even Jex Thoth and (some of) Blood Ceremony has some slower, more downbeat sounding doom tracks, whereas Electric Citizen is very energetic and stoner rock-based.




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Lich Coldheart
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:38 pm 
 

Just for the sake of my own knowledge: Why does Incantation's genre lack a 'doom metal' tag? I know that in the past answers such as "just because it's slow that doesn't make it doom metal" were given but many reviewers and I hear doom metal in their sound. In your opinion, mods, what makes it not doom metal?
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:14 pm 
 

Lich Coldheart wrote:
Just for the sake of my own knowledge: Why does Incantation's genre lack a 'doom metal' tag? I know that in the past answers such as "just because it's slow that doesn't make it doom metal" were given but many reviewers and I hear doom metal in their sound. In your opinion, mods, what makes it not doom metal?

For the same reason why Autopsy doesn't have it either. While Doom Metal is present at times, it is used more of an aesthetic resource than a main feature/characteristic of their main sound. The fact it has Doom passages doesn't necessarily make Incantation, one of the biggest names in the (non-Florida) US Death Metal, a Doom/Death band. Influences, resources, or nods to other genres is not the same thing as going full "hey, we're mixing genres".

And yes, just because it's slow that doesn't necessarily make it Doom Metal.
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Lich Coldheart
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:29 am 
 

I see. Thank you.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:21 am 
 

Pursuing The End are listed as symphonic/gothic metal, but imo their music is more of an mix of melodic death metal and metalcore, with and combination of deep male death metal growls and melodic female vocals. The famale vocals really do seem like that of Nightwish at times, but the music and riffing stays rooted in the melodic death metal realm with hints of metalcore. The style can be compared to recent Blood Stain Child, Without the major electronic elements, though there are some in Pursuing The End's music as well. I propose changing their genre to melodic death metal/metalcore: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1B3biFRyI6N7YlwqmBXMRp
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Lord of Plague And Torment
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:19 pm 
 

Alright, I think it's due time to update Peste Noire's genre. It doesn't make sense to describe them as pure black metal anymore, and really it hasn't since about "Ballade cuntre lo Anemi francor". What made me think of this again is that their latest single wasn't metal at all, but rather hip hop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lOdqUmUubM

Peste Noire has experimented with a lot of other genres than black metal through their career. Some examples being the french folk music that has been present really all along, the industrial influences and progressive song structures on "L'ordure à l'état pur", the rapping on their self titled album and "La Chaise-Dyable", and the borderline punk and noiserock on the previously mentioned "Ballade". All this doesn't even mention their unconventional way of writting riffs and songs in general. I find it kind of strange that MA has resisted updating KPN for so long when I think they pretty evidently are more tha just black metal
I suggest updating their genre to "black metal (early), avant-garde black metal (later)".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMlSIJQgAsg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o04bKRwwPtM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5ImePXiWW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt08qcrfr1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcLM8R6SNp8

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TheUnhinged
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:05 am 
 

Lord of Plague And Torment wrote:
Alright, I think it's due time to update Peste Noire's genre. It doesn't make sense to describe them as pure black metal anymore, and really it hasn't since about "Ballade cuntre lo Anemi francor". What made me think of this again is that their latest single wasn't metal at all, but rather hip hop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lOdqUmUubM

Peste Noire has experimented with a lot of other genres than black metal through their career. Some examples being the french folk music that has been present really all along, the industrial influences and progressive song structures on "L'ordure à l'état pur", the rapping on their self titled album and "La Chaise-Dyable", and the borderline punk and noiserock on the previously mentioned "Ballade". All this doesn't even mention their unconventional way of writting riffs and songs in general. I find it kind of strange that MA has resisted updating KPN for so long when I think they pretty evidently are more tha just black metal
I suggest updating their genre to "black metal (early), avant-garde black metal (later)".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMlSIJQgAsg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o04bKRwwPtM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5ImePXiWW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt08qcrfr1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcLM8R6SNp8


I support this. I've listened to a bit of their later stuff as well, as I agree it's way too weird and eclectic to be simplified down to simple black metal.

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Derigin
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:19 pm 
 

It may be best to wait for this next release before we go about changing the genre.
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Sonnycz
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:14 pm 
 

I think the polish band Kły shouldn't be listed as Atmospheric Black Metal anymore. The demo might have sounded like that but the debut album released this year sounds mostly Post-Black Metal. They strongly remind me of Kontinuum which are pretty accurately listed as Progressive Post-Black Metal.

Kły: https://youtu.be/TBoqNrnTSsk?t=16m47s
Kontinuum: https://youtu.be/ZXR9LoQ-_O0?t=16m29s

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:51 am 
 

The Swedish band Void Commander has changed its style completely to psychedelic/blues/classic rock on their new release Void Commander. There are absolutely no metal riffs on the album, instead the sound is similar to artists like Cream or Jimi Hendrix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V297_Rye5jM

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:01 am 
 

Twisted Sister
Genre: Glam Rock (early), Heavy Metal/Hard Rock (later)

The additional notes say: "Twisted Sister originally played glam rock until Dee Snider joined in 1976 and took over as the songwriter." Their first release is from 1979. So if the glam rock was three years before they even released anything, it doesn't really make sense to have it in the genre.
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:50 pm 
 

droneriot wrote:
Twisted Sister
Genre: Glam Rock (early), Heavy Metal/Hard Rock (later)

The additional notes say: "Twisted Sister originally played glam rock until Dee Snider joined in 1976 and took over as the songwriter." Their first release is from 1979. So if the glam rock was three years before they even released anything, it doesn't really make sense to have it in the genre.

Good catch, drone. I've literally seen that page a thousand times and never even thought about that bit. Gonna change it.

EDIT: Done.
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OFFICIAL_AWOKENINLIMBO
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:54 am 
 

Band: Lust of a dying breed, Genre change suggestion: melodic deathcore or Death metal/deathcore
Samples: https://lustofadyingbreed.bandcamp.com/ ... nine-tails
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM6_l7_yeFg

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Midnight Rider
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:38 am 
 

OFFICIAL_AWOKENINLIMBO wrote:
Band: Lust of a dying breed, Genre change suggestion: melodic deathcore or Death metal/deathcore
Samples: https://lustofadyingbreed.bandcamp.com/ ... nine-tails
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM6_l7_yeFg

Genre is fine as it is.

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Sonnycz
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:19 pm 
 

Quintessente genre should be Gothic Metal

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Midnight Rider
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:54 am 
 

Sonnycz wrote:

Will be re-labeled soon. Be patient, please.
[EDIT]: Fixed to "Melodic Death/Power/Gothic Metal" Thanks.

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Bonziepsycho
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:30 pm 
 

It might be a bit ridiculous, but I think Dying Fetus needs a genre change. As a huge fan myself, I think they have three slightly different eras. From 1991-2000 (Purification Through Violence, Killing on Adrenaline) they were Brutal Death Metal/Hardcore with Grindcore as a secondary genre. From 2000-2010 (Destroy the Opposition, Stop at Nothing, War of Attrition) they were Brutal Death Metal/Grindcore with Hardcore and Tech Death as secondary genres. From 2010-present (Descend into Depravity, Reign Supreme, Wrong One to Fuck With) they have been Brutal Death Metal with elements of Tech Death/Grindcore (mostly) and Hardcore (here and there). Personally, I think the most accurate way to describe these three eras is "Brutal Death Metal with Technical/Grindcore/Hardcore elements." I know it's a long and wordy, but I don't think they should be discredited of their technical/hardcore elements.

I probably don't need links, but here is most of their albums:
https://dyingfetus.bandcamp.com/
The two missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89IxL0_4Ev8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qu_ihZO5PM
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:40 pm 
 

Dying Fetus is not necessarily an easy band to tag, but their genre is fine as it currently is. "Brutal Death Metal/Grindcore" describes their sound well enough to the point where anything else just seems like nitpicking imo.

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paganisml2
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:08 pm 
 

Hello and thank you for posting my bands to your respectful site named Metal Archives. This post has to do with the correction of a band's genre tag. You tag my band EmptyLife as Black metal , when it is Depressive Black metal. The following link is from the official bandcamp page of the band , which in the right side you can clearly read the description of the band that says : "This is a depressive, suicidal black metal project, with influences from the post punk and goth scenes. Through the lovely melodies I try to cheer up my depression". https://emptylife.bandcamp.com/ , please correct the genre tag to ~Depressive Black Metal~ , thank you in advanced!~

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Bonziepsycho
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:52 pm 
 

Bonziepsycho wrote:
It might be a bit ridiculous, but I think Dying Fetus needs a genre change. As a huge fan myself, I think they have three slightly different eras. From 1991-2000 (Purification Through Violence, Killing on Adrenaline) they were Brutal Death Metal/Hardcore with Grindcore as a secondary genre. From 2000-2010 (Destroy the Opposition, Stop at Nothing, War of Attrition) they were Brutal Death Metal/Grindcore with Hardcore and Tech Death as secondary genres. From 2010-present (Descend into Depravity, Reign Supreme, Wrong One to Fuck With) they have been Brutal Death Metal with elements of Tech Death/Grindcore (mostly) and Hardcore (here and there). Personally, I think the most accurate way to describe these three eras is "Brutal Death Metal with Technical/Grindcore/Hardcore elements." I know it's a long and wordy, but I don't think they should be discredited of their technical/hardcore elements.

I probably don't need links, but here is most of their albums:
https://dyingfetus.bandcamp.com/
The two missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89IxL0_4Ev8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qu_ihZO5PM


I'd be interested to hear some more input on this.

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Dying Fetus is not necessarily an easy band to tag, but their genre is fine as it currently is. "Brutal Death Metal/Grindcore" describes their sound well enough to the point where anything else just seems like nitpicking imo.


Regardless, I still think adding a hardcore tag as "with Hardcore elements" would fill this gap. Their first era was certainly more Hardcore than Grindcore; their second era still was very much Hardcore influenced; their third era has the least amount of Hardcore, but it still part of their song writing when they do slower punkish riffs. They have been Brutal Death Metal their entire existence. It's just been a matter of having Hardcore being a major part in their sound, and falling off, Grindcore becoming a larger part in their sound later on, and then Tech Death becoming an important style in their latest era. Accurately and concisely describing it is the issue, especially when it's a mouthful.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:28 pm 
 

I feel like the BDM tag kind of implies the hardcore influence since slams came into death metal through beatdown hardcore, so I could live without it being there. Still, Waking the Cadaver has it on their page. I would possibly support “Brutal Death Metal/Grindcore/Hardcore” but I’d like to hear from some other mods first.

EDIT: However, Bonziepsycho, keep in mind that the way we address bands with many mini-periods of various influences is not by painstakingly listing everything (“Brutal Death Metal with Technical/Grindcore/Hardcore elements” is a massive eyesore, no offense), but by simplifying (for example I’d also be fine with their genre just being “Death Metal”, and would perhaps even prefer that to their current tag). We have reviews that people can read if they want to know the peculiarities of a given album.
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:52 pm 
 

MutantClannfear wrote:
I would possibly support “Brutal Death Metal/Grindcore/Hardcore” but I’d like to hear from some other mods first.

We've already been through this a bunch of years ago and while the closest to a clear consensus was the current tag.
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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:19 pm 
 

Absolutely not in regards to adding hardcore to the genre tag. It already has grindcore in it.... the hardcore is implied. We're not gonna overcomplicate things. The only change I'd be ok with is swapping brutal for technical or doing away with both adjectives.
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Bonziepsycho
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:58 pm 
 

Erosion of Humanity wrote:
Absolutely not in regards to adding hardcore to the genre tag. It already has grindcore in it.... the hardcore is implied. We're not gonna overcomplicate things.


I'll never understand when someone says that the genre is "implied." I understand that the issue here is the genre being over-complicating, but Grindcore and Hardcore are two very different punk subgenres. That would be like saying get rid of all the Thrash/Death or Death Metal/Deathcore tags because one implies the other. If a band incorporates both styles then the two should be tagged, not one and imply the other.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:56 am 
 

hello i open a threat about changing the genre tag of my band EmptyLife , from Black metal to "Depressive Black metal" and i posted the description of the band which says that the band is Depressive Suicidal Black Metal. Although the user EzraBlumenfeld answered me , that is not enough to just post the description of the band of how i consider my band as Depressive Black Metal , but i have to post also links of the music that proves it. This link is a song from the first Ep https://emptylife.bandcamp.com/track/fi ... n-a-coffin .The song called "first night in a Coffin " , this second link is from the full length album https://emptylife.bandcamp.com/track/woods-of-sadness , the name of the song is "Woods of Sadness" but in general you can hear the entire albums and download them for free from the official bandcamp page of the band : https://emptylife.bandcamp.com/ . For first instance enjoy the music in case you like DSBM and secondary please correct the tag of my band to Depressive Black Metal , which is and not tag as Black Metal which is not. Thank you in advance

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:00 am 
 

Bonziepsycho wrote:
Erosion of Humanity wrote:
Absolutely not in regards to adding hardcore to the genre tag. It already has grindcore in it.... the hardcore is implied. We're not gonna overcomplicate things.


I'll never understand when someone says that the genre is "implied." I understand that the issue here is the genre being over-complicating, but Grindcore and Hardcore are two very different punk subgenres. That would be like saying get rid of all the Thrash/Death or Death Metal/Deathcore tags because one implies the other. If a band incorporates both styles then the two should be tagged, not one and imply the other.


There is not enough hardcore elements in their music to warrant either being included or distinguished from grindcore. Fuck I dont even want grindcore there but I'm in the minority. I'm not about to sit here and break down genres as I, or other staff members, see them. Hardcore would imply a serious deviation in sound from what the band plays.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:01 am 
 

paganisml2 wrote:
hello i open a threat about changing the genre tag of my band EmptyLife , from Black metal to "Depressive Black metal" and i posted the description of the band which says that the band is Depressive Suicidal Black Metal. Although the user EzraBlumenfeld answered me , that is not enough to just post the description of the band of how i consider my band as Depressive Black Metal , but i have to post also links of the music that proves it. This link is a song from the first Ep https://emptylife.bandcamp.com/track/fi ... n-a-coffin .The song called "first night in a Coffin " , this second link is from the full length album https://emptylife.bandcamp.com/track/woods-of-sadness , the name of the song is "Woods of Sadness" but in general you can hear the entire albums and download them for free from the official bandcamp page of the band : https://emptylife.bandcamp.com/ . For first instance enjoy the music in case you like DSBM and secondary please correct the tag of my band to Depressive Black Metal , which is and not tag as Black Metal which is not. Thank you in advance


You. Stop bombarding us. We have received your request and will deal with it in time. Have some fucking patience.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:04 pm 
 

Callan Vincent needs a before/after tag now. He released his EP Synth City under his new style and has been the same with three more EPs and a couple of singles. The genre should be Melodic/Progressive Metal (early), Electronic/Chillwave (later). I know this site doesn't dive deep into non-metal genres, but chillwave is a subgenre of synthwave and electro/dream pop. Think of it like a slower, dreamy synthwave/electronic with a "chill" feel to it. Also, he blends the style with various other electronic genres, like 2-step and drum & bass (not to a significant degree at all), so having it "electronic/chillwave" is the most accurate way to describe it.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ca ... 3540408546
https://callanvincent.bandcamp.com/albu ... d-of-light

And just so you know I haven't made up this genre:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chillwave
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:18 pm 
 

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Pursuing The End are listed as symphonic/gothic metal, but imo their music is more of an mix of melodic death metal and metalcore, with and combination of deep male death metal growls and melodic female vocals. The famale vocals really do seem like that of Nightwish at times, but the music and riffing stays rooted in the melodic death metal realm with hints of metalcore. The style can be compared to recent Blood Stain Child, Without the major electronic elements, though there are some in Pursuing The End's music as well. I propose changing their genre to melodic death metal/metalcore: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1B3biFRyI6N7YlwqmBXMRp
https://www.youtube.com/user/StefanoBottarelli

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:05 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Pursuing The End are listed as symphonic/gothic metal, but imo their music is more of an mix of melodic death metal and metalcore, with and combination of deep male death metal growls and melodic female vocals. The famale vocals really do seem like that of Nightwish at times, but the music and riffing stays rooted in the melodic death metal realm with hints of metalcore. The style can be compared to recent Blood Stain Child, Without the major electronic elements, though there are some in Pursuing The End's music as well. I propose changing their genre to melodic death metal/metalcore: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1B3biFRyI6N7YlwqmBXMRp
https://www.youtube.com/user/StefanoBottarelli

On point, Witcher. Genre changed.

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