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HeavenDuff
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:45 pm 
 

I don't really mind any part of the aesthetics of most subgenres. Some niche scenes like pornogrind or bdm sometimes go over the top and fall into self-parody or plain mysoginy, and I'm not too fond of this. But death, black, folk, power scenes all have their own campy aesthetics and codes, and I like that. I don't even mind the whole spikes, leather and corpsepaint part of black metal, although I think it's ridiculous to take yourself extremely seriously and try to be "really" evil wearing this much make-up and spikes. If it's done in good fun, like the guys from Immortal do, than it makes more sense to me, and it really doesn't bother me at all.

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Curious_dead
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:47 pm 
 

Thinking further about it... some live performances would probably have been weird if the guys (and girls) had been dressed plainly, or without theatrics. For some bands or even genres it may be easier to do it, but I don't know, I think that a Sargeist, Dimmu, Cradle or Watain performance with no theatrics, no make-up, no costumes would be lesser. It's not like their music isn't awesome, it stands on its own (YMMV) but it does add a little something. You're watching a show, not just some dudes playing instruments. Outside of live performances it's less important, but other aspects (such as cover) take the place of theatrics, and I love metal album covers (as a rule, there are many stinkers too).

It's easy for bands to miss the mark, however. Plenty (PLENTY!) of BM bands end up looking goofy or amateurish, some look like they try too hard, some just look like copycats.

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rarezuzuh
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:52 pm 
 

I do find it annoying when the aesthetics start to feel overly derivative or forced, like the band is checking off items on a list of genre cliches, but I can forgive a lot if the music is good enough to back it up. It's worse when a band starts to use aesthetics as a crutch for mediocre songs. Modern Electric Wizard is a major offender here.

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Aldrahn333
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:57 pm 
 

Maybe I'm wrong on the impression, but could not watch death metal bands using Gibson Les Paul guitars. Fuckin' hell, you're not playing Jimmy Page bluesy notes. Also, long hair guys, not the Eminem looking ones.

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LilTito
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:57 am 
 

I agree mostly. These days if I see a new band in full corpsepaint and leather posing for a band photo I'm not even gonna bother checking it out, cause I'm bloody convinced it will suck.
On the other hand, I agree there should be some kind of aesthetics in metal in general. Dress plainly, but don't dress immature. If you're a scary evil black or even death metal band at least dress in full black with some boots, don't have to go all out like the guys in the 90s.

I think dressing like you're going out to buy cigarettes doesn't work with ANY band. You're playing in front of people, making a "show" therefore put in some kind of fucking effort.

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To me it just goes hand in hand with the showmanship and is an essential part of the metal world/image. Could you imagine going to a Mayhem or Watain concert and those guys would just stand around in their jeans and t-shirt? The whole shtick with corpse paints, altars and rituals and all stuff is part of the experience for me. Especially in a genre like black metal where these things are an integral part of the music.

Besides metal fans can be pretty fickle when it comes to these things... Remember when KISS dropped their make up and outfits? Didn't went down so well with fans even though the music didn't change all that much. I also remember Rob Zombie dropping his whole horror/carnival show around 2005/2006 when he released and toured the "Educated Horses" album. He performed without any make up or gadgets and was plain dressed in jean and t-shirt. Once again fans weren't having it and soon enough he went back to the whole horror show look with video screens, props and make up.

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Slater922
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:49 am 
 

Destructhor3011 wrote:
Besides metal fans can be pretty fickle when it comes to these things... Remember when KISS dropped their make up and outfits? Didn't went down so well with fans even though the music didn't change all that much. I also remember Rob Zombie dropping his whole horror/carnival show around 2005/2006 when he released and toured the "Educated Horses" album. He performed without any make up or gadgets and was plain dressed in jean and t-shirt. Once again fans weren't having it and soon enough he went back to the whole horror show look with video screens, props and make up.

Agreed. It's like if Celine Dion decided to start playing death metal in her next album. Her fans are gonna think she went insane or something :o
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:58 pm 
 

I think the metal esthetic is more outdated than an Amiga right now, I'd rather see a band in shorts or polo shirts. Maybe an unpopular opinion but I stand by it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:00 pm 
 

Slater922 wrote:
Destructhor3011 wrote:
Besides metal fans can be pretty fickle when it comes to these things... Remember when KISS dropped their make up and outfits? Didn't went down so well with fans even though the music didn't change all that much. I also remember Rob Zombie dropping his whole horror/carnival show around 2005/2006 when he released and toured the "Educated Horses" album. He performed without any make up or gadgets and was plain dressed in jean and t-shirt. Once again fans weren't having it and soon enough he went back to the whole horror show look with video screens, props and make up.

Agreed. It's like if Celine Dion decided to start playing death metal in her next album. Her fans are gonna think she went insane or something :o


I'd buy that immediately!

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soul_schizm
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:02 pm 
 

LilTito wrote:
I agree mostly. These days if I see a new band in full corpsepaint and leather posing for a band photo I'm not even gonna bother checking it out, cause I'm bloody convinced it will suck.
On the other hand, I agree there should be some kind of aesthetics in metal in general. Dress plainly, but don't dress immature. If you're a scary evil black or even death metal band at least dress in full black with some boots, don't have to go all out like the guys in the 90s.

I think dressing like you're going out to buy cigarettes doesn't work with ANY band. You're playing in front of people, making a "show" therefore put in some kind of fucking effort.


Really? Any band? AC/DC dresses pretty ordinary and they're great.

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joppek
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:29 pm 
 

soul_schizm wrote:
AC/DC dresses pretty ordinary and they're great.


there's plenty of great plain looking rock bands, but ac/dc is not a brilliant example - how often do you see a guy with a suit and shorts on?

just 'cause they don't have super obvious corpsepaint and pope hats doesn't mean they don't have a thought out image
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soul_schizm
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:14 pm 
 

joppek wrote:
soul_schizm wrote:
AC/DC dresses pretty ordinary and they're great.


there's plenty of great plain looking rock bands, but ac/dc is not a brilliant example - how often do you see a guy with a suit and shorts on?

just 'cause they don't have super obvious corpsepaint and pope hats doesn't mean they don't have a thought out image


I guess. What to say then? A band needs to think about whether they are just wearing their lazy weekend clothes before they go onstage. OK?

I thought we were talking about over-the-top stuff, here.

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Yuli Ban
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:07 pm 
 

The aesthetics sometimes completes the band, but it's not absolutely necessary for me.

My personal favorite aesthetic is the "heavy rocker" look or the "proto-metal" look, and it's borderline just "normal clothes". Stoner bands often run with it the most, but it's common with just about every metal subgenre because it's the one from which the metal look sprouted. Basically looking like Black Sabbath circa 1970 or the Ramones circa '76: the shaggy hair, the denim and maybe leather jacket, little else. I don't know, riffing out just seems better when you have thick and shaggy hair flying everywhere.

Though stoner rock acts still haven't figured out en masse that old-school grainy cameras are the bow on top! It's not proper 70s worship unless it looks like it was recorded on a super 8mm. Bah! I'm only one who cares it seems.

Point is, I'm still shallow enough and proud of it that aesthetics can make a band better to me. But not so shallow that completely avoiding them ruins everything. It's just preference. If I had the option, this is what I'd choose.

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Metal Shark
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:49 pm 
 

"Anyone tire of the aesthetics?"

Only of Grindcore album covers!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:04 am 
 

If the music sucks, assure I am tired. Visuals and aesthetics are an element that add or don't. Generalizing makes everyone tired.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:29 pm 
 

One thing I'm tired of are those promo photos with band members just standing around doing nothing and looking sullen. And staring straight into the camera. It's like a photo for a collective ID paper or something; there's no art or personality in it. No dressing up or down could save it. Every band is guilty of this, even my favourites.

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Prairieshadow
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:55 pm 
 

interstellar_medium wrote:
One thing I'm tired of are those promo photos with band members just standing around doing nothing and looking sullen. And staring straight into the camera. It's like a photo for a collective ID paper or something; there's no art or personality in it. No dressing up or down could save it. Every band is guilty of this, even my favourites.

I'm increasingly finding myself feeling this way as well.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:53 am 
 

On reflection, and reading a magazine over the last couple of days, I've found one thing that I really can't get past with a band. Tophats.

Tophats. Especially tophats with goggles. Or tophats with fancy waistcoats. It just gives me flashbacks to being stuck with the tophat-waistcoat-anime-swords-m'lady bloke at university. Always happened, I seemed to attract them. My wife did too. *shudder*
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Boychev
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I'm torn about this. On the one hand, yeah, it's kind of a "I bought my personality in three easy installments of $199" thing. You buy a bunch of shirts, patches, CDs, hang out with a certain crowd, and that's your personality. It sounds like a pretty boring way to be a unique individual.

On the other hand, art is supposed to be transformative, at least according to that old romantic ideal, no? I mean back when Goethe published "Young Werther", it was such a massive hit that it generated a youth culture around it - folks dressed a certain way, bought merch, even committed suicide because of being so obsessed with the damn book. Think goths but like... in the late 1700s. So it's hardly a thing unique to metal and I feel like every serious interest in an artform is bound to reflect on how you dress, what crowd you hang out with, how you behave and so on. There's a reason why philharmonic orchestras don't go out on stage wearing corpsepaint, leather pants, and spikes. (though it would be pretty fucking badass)

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Wahn_nhaW
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:54 am 
 

Methuen wrote:
On reflection, and reading a magazine over the last couple of days, I've found one thing that I really can't get past with a band. Tophats.

Tophats. Especially tophats with goggles. Or tophats with fancy waistcoats. It just gives me flashbacks to being stuck with the tophat-waistcoat-anime-swords-m'lady bloke at university. Always happened, I seemed to attract them. My wife did too. *shudder*


Unpopular opinion: Dimmu Borgir pulled this off. Yeah, I'm talking about that photo. That is a sweet photo. :D
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Wahn_nhaW wrote:
Methuen wrote:
On reflection, and reading a magazine over the last couple of days, I've found one thing that I really can't get past with a band. Tophats.

Tophats. Especially tophats with goggles. Or tophats with fancy waistcoats. It just gives me flashbacks to being stuck with the tophat-waistcoat-anime-swords-m'lady bloke at university. Always happened, I seemed to attract them. My wife did too. *shudder*


Unpopular opinion: Dimmu Borgir pulled this off. Yeah, I'm talking about that photo. That is a sweet photo. :D


You mean this one?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:32 am 
 

Gravetemplar wrote:
Wahn_nhaW wrote:
Methuen wrote:
On reflection, and reading a magazine over the last couple of days, I've found one thing that I really can't get past with a band. Tophats.

Tophats. Especially tophats with goggles. Or tophats with fancy waistcoats. It just gives me flashbacks to being stuck with the tophat-waistcoat-anime-swords-m'lady bloke at university. Always happened, I seemed to attract them. My wife did too. *shudder*


Unpopular opinion: Dimmu Borgir pulled this off. Yeah, I'm talking about that photo. That is a sweet photo. :D


You mean this one?

Image


Awesome. Yeah, I see now there are several from the same photo session. They're all great. :D
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Christ. Dimmu feat. Tuomas from Nightwish, aged 17 :lol: :lol:
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Methuen wrote:
Christ. Dimmu feat. Tuomas from Nightwish, aged 17 :lol: :lol:


Would see live.
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If the music is good, I listen. If not, I don’t.

I like when the lyrics are more original, and that can be as simple as just doing the same themes, but with a different perspective, or in a slightly different way.

Some of these posts are kind of insane. Don’t dress theatrically…don’t dress like your an old school band from the 70-80s, when you were born in the 90-2000s…don’t wear band shirts(as a musician to show what bands you give infernal hails to, what’s wrong with that?), to show off how true you are…don’t dress like a “hipster” in plaid shirts…is there any acceptable way, for a band to dress?

It’s like a combined slut-shaming/virgin-shaming, but it’s true shaming/untrue shaming. Come on, if you wear colorful normie shit, but the music kicks ass, it kicks ass. If you dress like 80s Venom, or Sabbat’s Gezol, or a gas masked, bullet carrying goat metal band, and the music kicks ass, then it kicks ass. I wear my Dying Fetus “2018 North American annihilation” shirt to work. I don’t tell people “this band will kill your mother and rape your dog, if you don’t like them, your a pussy!” I tell them “I was at the San José show, they kicked ass. There was nonstop stage diving, and crowd surfing, people were knocking each other over, and picking each other up, they played all their best songs, it was what a concert should be.”
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:36 pm 
 

Gravetemplar wrote:
You mean this one?

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Stian Aarstad has to be the best IRL troll. Completely ruined the aesthetic Dimmu were going for.

5 grim blokes and a ring master.
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No, I don't tire of the aesthetics. They're part of the appeal for me.
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This is how a metal band should look. No theatrics, no bullshit.

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firepile wrote:
This is how a metal band should look. No theatrics, no bullshit.

Image


Even when your “look” is “we don’t have a ‘look,’” it’s still a “look.” They wouldn’t tell you that they wore camouflage pants because “they look good,” usually, most men wearing them, who aren’t wearing them as part of a mandatory uniform, would phrase it in a different way, to show they’re too tough to care about fashion, but still, it’s a fashion. Also, in the photo, they’re in the forest, so sunglasses make sense. But Kerry King wears sunglasses indoors, at night, in every public appearance, wore chains onstage, and wears tank tops, that show that his barbed wire tribal armband has stretched all the way to the top of his head. They also had pyrotechnic effects on stage, so there was some theatricality.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:45 pm 
 

firepile wrote:
This is how a metal band should look. No theatrics, no bullshit.


This, this is actually more tiresome than aesthetics. Nothing bores me more than some silly "rule" about how a metal band, or its fans should look.

And thats all over metal it self, the archetypal image of long hair and a battle vest...you don't need too look like that to be metal.
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dont know what y'all are talking about corpse paint will always be fun.

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Aldrahn333 wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong on the impression, but could not watch death metal bands using Gibson Les Paul guitars. Fuckin' hell, you're not playing Jimmy Page bluesy notes.


That is so fucking dumb.

What the hell is someone supposed to use? A fucking B.C. Rich Warlock???

I play a Telecaster. If someone told me that was "wrong", I would tell them to go fuck themselves.

Give me a break.

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I don't really. I mean, they are just kind of part of it but i honestly don't spend much time thinking about them if what we mean by "aesthetics" are mostly the way bands and fans dress.

I honestly don't usually dress like a metal head anymore even though i used to. I don't know why i just don't usually unless going to a show or an ocassional shirt here and there, but when I was younger I did the all black all the time, band shirts, leather jacket, metal belt, bracelets, etc.etc.

I like most metal cover art on cds and vinyls, and other than that I just listen, usually on my ipod with sound cancelling headphones. It's not something that I really think a whole lot about.


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ACFAN8895 wrote:
Aldrahn333 wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong on the impression, but could not watch death metal bands using Gibson Les Paul guitars. Fuckin' hell, you're not playing Jimmy Page bluesy notes.


That is so fucking dumb.

What the hell is someone supposed to use? A fucking B.C. Rich Warlock???

I play a Telecaster. If someone told me that was "wrong", I would tell them to go fuck themselves.

Give me a break.


Man, I'm sorry hurting your feeling. You could play BB King's guitar for all I care

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The aesthetics are largely part of the fun. The theatricality is what drew me to metal in the first place - in terms of music, certain looks and stage shows. I really don't want a dry indie-rock sort of feel from this genre.

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No, because of the music is good enough it'll override it.

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joppek wrote:
soul_schizm wrote:
AC/DC dresses pretty ordinary and they're great.


how often do you see a guy with a suit and shorts on?


All the time - that's an Australian school uniform he's wearing. About a hundred high school students walk past my house every day dressed like that.
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Aldrahn333 wrote:
ACFAN8895 wrote:
Aldrahn333 wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong on the impression, but could not watch death metal bands using Gibson Les Paul guitars. Fuckin' hell, you're not playing Jimmy Page bluesy notes.


That is so fucking dumb.

What the hell is someone supposed to use? A fucking B.C. Rich Warlock???

I play a Telecaster. If someone told me that was "wrong", I would tell them to go fuck themselves.

Give me a break.



Man, I'm sorry hurting your feeling. You could play BB King's guitar for all I care

I emphasized again MY thought.



What are you, 12?

For starters, LP is a great metal guitar with plenty of use on the genre, even grim and kvlt Euronymous played a LP.

Plus, BB King didn't use a LP, mainly Gibson ES series.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:56 am 
 

Hexenmacht46290 wrote:
firepile wrote:
This is how a metal band should look. No theatrics, no bullshit.

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Even when your “look” is “we don’t have a ‘look,’” it’s still a “look.” They wouldn’t tell you that they wore camouflage pants because “they look good,” usually, most men wearing them, who aren’t wearing them as part of a mandatory uniform, would phrase it in a different way, to show they’re too tough to care about fashion, but still, it’s a fashion. Also, in the photo, they’re in the forest, so sunglasses make sense. But Kerry King wears sunglasses indoors, at night, in every public appearance, wore chains onstage, and wears tank tops, that show that his barbed wire tribal armband has stretched all the way to the top of his head. They also had pyrotechnic effects on stage, so there was some theatricality.


Slayer shows absolutely wouldn't have been the same without the pyrotechnics, lighting, fake blood, etc etc. This is from the last show here in 2019. It was supposed to be at a stadium but because Bulgarian concert promoters are wankers, they moved it to a hall in the last moment. The band kept the pyrotechnics though - the flames were almost up to the ceiling. You could absolutely feel the heat rise up from the stage some 20 meters away from it - it felt like hell. There's no improv aspect to metal like there is with jazz, and with a band like Slayer absolutely everyone knows everything they're gonna play, so it would've been pretty boring to just watch them casually go through their set without the lighting effects, fog, and pyro. This isn't supposed to be some kind of high art music, it's supposed to be fun and cool.

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Aldrahn333 wrote:
ACFAN8895 wrote:
Aldrahn333 wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong on the impression, but could not watch death metal bands using Gibson Les Paul guitars. Fuckin' hell, you're not playing Jimmy Page bluesy notes.


That is so fucking dumb.

What the hell is someone supposed to use? A fucking B.C. Rich Warlock???

I play a Telecaster. If someone told me that was "wrong", I would tell them to go fuck themselves.

Give me a break.


Man, I'm sorry hurting your feeling. You could play BB King's guitar for all I care

I emphasized again MY thought.


Honestly, I have a Gibson Les Paul because as a teenager I had a jazz guitar teacher who convinced me to buy it and I agree that it just doesn't have the right look for a metal band and while I really haven't played in years if I ever did have a metal band I would buy a different and more metal looking (definitely black) guitar for it. I do think that aesthetics of how a band looks are somewhat significant at times.

I mean, at the very least I'd paint my guitar black as it has these "sunburst" type color patterns and that just doesn't look right being used by a death or black metal band but that's just my opinion.

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