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LithoJazzoSphere
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:43 pm 
 

I've been reminiscing about a few other communities I've been involved in that are now either ghost towns or far from the level of activity they used to have. I don't know what the highest volume of traffic for this forum was, and obviously this question will really only be properly answerable by people who've been at least semi-active for a fair number of years. But I'm curious if there's a consensus peak time period for discussions here. Maybe a salient time when some now MIA posters were around, or a period where exciting events in the surrounding metal ecoscape filtered into unusually fascinating banter here. Essentially this is a spot to wax nostalgic about forum memories. Or maybe that period is now, I wouldn't know. Or perhaps we're heading into it in the future? There's always room for some optimism.

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Ace_Rimmer
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:08 pm 
 

I remember coming here from Metal-Rules, can't ever remember what my original username was. 666 or Tri-6 maybe? I used to use that one on the old Maiden forums before it went fanclub. Anyway it was a lot more active. That was in the mid 00's.

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oldmetalhead
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:19 pm 
 

Ace_Rimmer wrote:
I remember coming here from Metal-Rules, can't ever remember what my original username was. 666 or Tri-6 maybe? I used to use that one on the old Maiden forums before it went fanclub. Anyway it was a lot more active. That was in the mid 00's.

That's where I started and I can't remember what my name was, I rarely posted but read regularly. I remember when Jag Panzer gave a whole paragraph thanking and naming the fans on there in the credits on Casting the Stones. I thought that was very cool. That site's forum got overridden with spam bots and I guess the admins just abandoned the forum and changed the format.

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hells_unicorn
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:21 pm 
 

If I were to put a specific period when this forum was at its most active, I'd say it was from around the time that I first joined in early 2005 up until the early 2010s. Granted, my area of experience was more on the side of album review competitions, and occasionally metal discussion. There was a time when the review discussion forum was booming and it was a frequent occurrence for multiple new threads to pop up in a single day. I wouldn't go so far as to say that this forum is now a ghost town, but it is noticeably less active now. A lot of people that I regularly interacted with are either gone or haven't been nearly as active here.
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~Guest 1129985
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:22 pm 
 

This place was pretty busy back in the 00s. I'd say its a lot more civil/pleasant now though. A lot less garbage-traffic too.

Discord/reddit and probably facebook are the main reasons why forums are dead these days (and I don't see forums coming back anytime soon). Another major problem with specialized forums is that its subject matter has already been discussed to death. You can only circle-jerk the same bands and discuss the same topics so many times before it becomes boring. This wasn't a problem in the late 90s and 00s, but its a major problem for me now.

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doomicus
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:32 pm 
 

The quantity of activity has obviously gone down since 2005-2007, but I'd argue that the quality now is much higher to be honest. Posters are much more willing to actually discuss music rather than posture over each other and hurl goofy insults back and forth these days.
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Ace_Rimmer
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:41 pm 
 

Yeah Forums are going the way of Usenet. alt.music.slayer used to be a haunt of mine.

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Slater922
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:48 pm 
 

doomicus wrote:
The quantity of activity has obviously gone down since 2005-2007, but I'd argue that the quality now is much higher to be honest. Posters are much more willing to actually discuss music rather than posture over each other and hurl goofy insults back and forth these days.

Agreed. In fact, I came across this relic the other day about a guy asking why Slipknot and Rammstein aren't on here, but Mötley Crüe is allowed. And let me just say that the replies here were WILD. :eek:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:50 pm 
 

There used to be a lot more douchey posters on here than now. It was definitely a hub for activity and discovering new underground cool bands in the late 00s though. I'm surprised pleasantly by how interesting it still is to post on here now though.
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tahu157
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:04 pm 
 

Slater922 wrote:
I came across this relic the other day about a guy asking why Slipknot and Rammstein aren't on here, but Mötley Crüe is allowed. And let me just say that the replies here were WILD. :eek:

Check out the reports history for Slipknot while you're at it:

https://www.metal-archives.com/report/b ... /mode/page

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Slater922
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:32 pm 
 

tahu157 wrote:
Slater922 wrote:
I came across this relic the other day about a guy asking why Slipknot and Rammstein aren't on here, but Mötley Crüe is allowed. And let me just say that the replies here were WILD. :eek:

Check out the reports history for Slipknot while you're at it:

https://www.metal-archives.com/report/b ... /mode/page

Geez, it seems that a lot of people were butthurt that their favorite nu metal band wasn't added, but a thrash metal/crossover band of the same name was added instead. Here's some of my favorites from the reports:

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The band Slipknot, as of now, is not split up. the band is still together, despite theyre loss of Paul Gray about a year ago.

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The Band Slipknot i not the one people are looking for, this SLIPLNOT looks like shit, you should add the real Slipknot. the nu-metal band (Psychosocial, Wait and Bleed, Duality, etc.)

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slipknot is new metal

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I think that this Slipknot should be removed and the proper Des Monies, Iowa should be put on here, or at least put a number on the end of this one

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Slipknot shouldn't be on Encyclopaedia Metallum
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Flugeldufel
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:34 pm 
 

Metal-Rules was a ton of fun in the early-mid 2000s. I learned about a lot of new-to-me bands there. I recall the General forum being just as good reading and discussion as the metal forum. Eventually it got overrun by spambots and disappeared.

I would say this forum was always a little more broad in its overall tastes, and I never quite figured out who were the "regulars" were like on M-R. As for a golden age, anything up to FB and social media taking over counts for me. You can still come here and talk about whatever metal genre, get recs, discuss, etc. and I appreciate that even if I mostly just lurk and read other people's posts.

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Pitiless Wanderer
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:31 pm 
 

I came from Ultimatemetal forum land, which was amazing at first because it had all the official band forums. This was like 20 years ago. Over time, as most things do, it turned into a rotting pile of shit, all of it. People started posting the most disgusting and inappropriate content. I left as soon as I saw where things were headed. As far as this forum goes, I don't know about traffic, but I think the best and most interesting topics and discussions were around 5 years or so ago. I've noticed myself being less interested as time goes by. I think a lot of it is due to Covid, which made people start posting the most outrageous niche threads I've ever seen here. One thing I wish was that more active and prominent band members posted here and actually interacted with us, the fans.

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LithoJazzoSphere
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:47 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
I'm surprised pleasantly by how interesting it still is to post on here now though.


Death Mantra wrote:
Another major problem with specialized forums is that its subject matter has already been discussed to death. You can only circle-jerk the same bands and discuss the same topics so many times before it becomes boring. This wasn't a problem in the late 90s and 00s, but its a major problem for me now.


A combination of these fascinates me. I occasionally read old threads and notice current posters like Empyreal pop up sometimes, and I imagine it can be a challenge to keep it up year after year without retreading the same ground. Even as it is sometimes new topics or even just new posts to reply to will crop up that are quite similar to older ones, and I don't necessarily want to give the same answers, so I'll have to think of a different set of bands/albums/songs to mention, or take a different slant than I did before. Of course I also have my own particular hobby horses that I'll keep riding, regardless. There are still so many bands though, tons that I like and still haven't really found a good place to mention yet, or might have just name-dropped without going into specifics. And I still find new ones all the time, rediscover old ones and such. It'd be even easier if we had a more robust non-metal music discussion subforum. It comes up a bit in the tavern, but there's so much unexplored ground there.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:24 pm 
 

I guess I'm largely burned out and apathic, where at least for me, everything that can be discussed, already has (multiple times). So if the same topic with new participants comes along, I'm far less inclined to say anything (unless my stance changed, which indeed sometimes does). Creating new, inventive topics seems to be like drawing blood from a stone. I admire those who keep trying though, they have far more ingenuity than I do :lol:

I guess for me the only topics that are of interest to me are: nostalgia (*yawn*), niche subjects/scenes/bands (talking to myself), or new bands/albums (there isn't much new music that aligns with my music tastes anymore). I guess I'm in a phase where I'm re-investigating stuff from the 00s. I guess that was a casualty of going through too much music while being in a terrible state of mind and a lot of stuff unfortunately winding up as roadkill. So "revisitation" threads are of interest to me.

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Oxenkiller
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:52 pm 
 

I definitely miss a lot of the posters from 10 years or so ago- too many to mention. And also some of the staff members from that time, and it was sometimes amusing how they snarkily dealt with the occasionally trolling and idiotic post.

It isn't quite as active as it was 10 years ago, but there are still some good discussions now and again. I'd consider the forum's "Golden Age" to be about 2008-2012, back in the days when "Chest Wounds Sucked" and "The Bizarre Lattices were Everywhere." (heh heh)
I still like to browse the forums, mainly to get tips on new music- I've discovered a lot of new releases I've liked that way.

But still, there is a lot of chatter about bands I'm unfamiliar with- with all the thousands of bands out now, I could listen to music 24/7 and still not even come close to being familiar with everything that is out there, and like many people, there is a lot of bands whose music I just don't like- or at least, it does nothing for me. And a lot of chatter about stuff that is either redundant or doesnt interest me. I still like to post here occasionally though. I've been on the forums since around about 2007 or 8- I can't even remember now.

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PhantomGreen
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:03 am 
 

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I definitely miss a lot of the posters from 10 years or so ago- too many to mention. And also some of the staff members from that time, and it was sometimes amusing how they snarkily dealt with the occasionally trolling and idiotic post.


Speaking of which, is Napero still around?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:31 am 
 

The golden era was when Five Nails would write incoherent essays that were either the dumbest or most epic posts I've ever seen on this forum. Then he deleted his account and here we are.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:40 am 
 

Most of the legendary bans and posts came in the mid 00s. Dick in the catacomb skull, reaper locked in this own forum(mi scusi), grabass hoplite tactics guy, boris, drone suicide attempt.

Back then the forum was super active and the venom between certain members was hilarious.

Edit: just realized my account has the oldest join date in the thread so far... And it's not even my original... I feel old.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:00 am 
 

Death Mantra wrote:
Discord/reddit and probably facebook are the main reasons why forums are dead these days (and I don't see forums coming back anytime soon).


Bit of an aside, but I'm not so sure about that. Won't be the same as during the golden era, of course, and forums as primary means of general written group communication certainly is dead, but I have been seeing non-negligible amounts of forum revival in a lot of niche/specialist communities, especially when 1. good support for both lengthy, well-formatted text and in-text images (in not only the starting opener but all further posts/comments in a thread as well; and within the *same* post not separate posts) is of major importance and 2. there is significant value in content being separated into many specific threads that can be archived, locked, searched, linked and revived/reopened.

Reddit, discord, facebook etc. tend to offer one but not the other, or neither, or parts of both but not all of both.

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GoatBoat
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:06 am 
 

Kutulu wrote:
Most of the legendary bans and posts came in the mid 00s. Dick in the catacomb skull, reaper locked in this own forum(mi scusi), grabass hoplite tactics guy, boris, drone suicide attempt.

Back then the forum was super active and the venom between certain members was hilarious.

Edit: just realized my account has the oldest join date in the thread so far... And it's not even my original... I feel old.

Wasn't the dicking a repost from another site?

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LordStenhammar
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:40 am 
 

My memory is almost completely lost, but I remember this place being very chaotic in the (beginning of?) 00's. People seem to be more civilized now. Or maybe I confuse this with some other forum...

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wizard_of_bore
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:46 am 
 

I would say this board had a golden era. For good or bad, new rules came out and a lot of people left or were banned. It killed that original vibe. It didn't ruin the board, it changed the atmosphere. Its not a knock, its just my opinion. Anyone who has ever been considered a "legendary" poster, ends up being banned or left. The new rules don't allow for those type of antics.
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oxwah
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:58 am 
 

I'd have to concur that it seems like while traffic is down, quality is up. There was a lot more elitism in the mid 00's, and that applies to reviews as well. There are plenty of reviews from then-prolific posters that don't say much more than "this sucks and I hate it. 2%" (with a few more words), which I don't think would fly at all today.

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VaderCrush
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 am 
 

the mid-late 2000s were when i remember it being the most busy. it was also full of some of the most embarrassing try-hardy people imaginable and there were slurs everywhere

the board as it has been for the past few years is the best ive ever seen it

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:00 am 
 

I think it echoes a lot of the metal boards I've seen: way less activity and fewer hall of fame moments, but also a hell of a lot nicer. Ten years ago, there was way more gatekeeping and inappropriate hostility towards newcomers that was a relic of old attitudes from the golden age of forums ("all newcomers are trolls or idiots until proven otherwise"), way too many DMU/ANUS-like attitudes, and, of course, way too much of the casual homophobia and calling things you didn't like gay that persisted until much further into the 2010s than people would like to think.

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Everflowingstream
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:55 am 
 

Always thought Metal Rules circa 01 - 05 was the peak between the two forums.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:09 pm 
 

Slater922 wrote:
doomicus wrote:
The quantity of activity has obviously gone down since 2005-2007, but I'd argue that the quality now is much higher to be honest. Posters are much more willing to actually discuss music rather than posture over each other and hurl goofy insults back and forth these days.

Agreed. In fact, I came across this relic the other day about a guy asking why Slipknot and Rammstein aren't on here, but Mötley Crüe is allowed. And let me just say that the replies here were WILD. :eek:


Dear God.

I don't miss whatever era this was.

Some pretty nasty responses to the OP.

Speaking of, I'm noticing "Droneriot" must've quit the board.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:43 pm 
 

i enjoyed it more around 2012-2014 seemed to be more active people. esp in the musicians forum.
i also was out of town and didn't have a lot I could do after I finished work each evening.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:07 pm 
 

CoconutBackwards wrote:
Slater922 wrote:
doomicus wrote:
The quantity of activity has obviously gone down since 2005-2007, but I'd argue that the quality now is much higher to be honest. Posters are much more willing to actually discuss music rather than posture over each other and hurl goofy insults back and forth these days.

Agreed. In fact, I came across this relic the other day about a guy asking why Slipknot and Rammstein aren't on here, but Mötley Crüe is allowed. And let me just say that the replies here were WILD. :eek:


Dear God.

I don't miss whatever era this was.

Some pretty nasty responses to the OP.

Speaking of, I'm noticing "Droneriot" must've quit the board.


This was the era when things were at their most ideologically extreme, and I have to admit that I played into it a bit back then myself, though I generally gave a hard pass to the idea of participating in a flame war over including anything nu-metal on the site because I considered it an unserious topic. My pet peeve back in those days was mostly people attacking power metal as a non-metal joke, which was extremely common as the European wave was coming to an end in 2005 and by 2007 everybody and their mother was mocking most of the bands that rode it back in the early 2000s.

I don't know if Drone actually quit the forum, but he hasn't been doing much of late. Did something happen in a thread recently that would have him saying he wasn't coming back? I'm more curious than anything else.
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^^Didn't droneriot finally get banned?

AddWittyUsername wrote:
Death Mantra wrote:
Discord/reddit and probably facebook are the main reasons why forums are dead these days (and I don't see forums coming back anytime soon).


Bit of an aside, but I'm not so sure about that. Won't be the same as during the golden era, of course, and forums as primary means of general written group communication certainly is dead, but I have been seeing non-negligible amounts of forum revival in a lot of niche/specialist communities, especially when 1. good support for both lengthy, well-formatted text and in-text images (in not only the starting opener but all further posts/comments in a thread as well; and within the *same* post not separate posts) is of major importance and 2. there is significant value in content being separated into many specific threads that can be archived, locked, searched, linked and revived/reopened.

Reddit, discord, facebook etc. tend to offer one but not the other, or neither, or parts of both but not all of both.


I personally like forums far more than the alternative. I can tolerate reddit (which I actually see as a replacement to usenet), but I hate how posts can't be bumped. Social media is indeed the competitor to forums and forums are waging a losing battle. I guess if you want to build a forum, you have to pluck members from those, because that's where people tend to flock to first.

I don't doubt niche forums with a passionate userbase (that can somehow get along) can still exist, I haven't had any luck finding any that meet my needs sadly. Closest would be forums for new computer games, but discord seems to be all the rage with that.

I think for metal, there's probably only room for a couple forums on the internet now. I don't think metal has the luxury of being able to support acutely specialized forums anymore (eg, by subgenre/micro-scene). Hell, back in the 00s, most bands had their own forum. If someone got banned from here, they could run off and start their own forum and it may very well be successful. Good luck with that now haha

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LithoJazzoSphere
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:45 pm 
 

Death Mantra wrote:
AddWittyUsername wrote:
Death Mantra wrote:
Discord/reddit and probably facebook are the main reasons why forums are dead these days (and I don't see forums coming back anytime soon).


Bit of an aside, but I'm not so sure about that. Won't be the same as during the golden era, of course, and forums as primary means of general written group communication certainly is dead, but I have been seeing non-negligible amounts of forum revival in a lot of niche/specialist communities, especially when 1. good support for both lengthy, well-formatted text and in-text images (in not only the starting opener but all further posts/comments in a thread as well; and within the *same* post not separate posts) is of major importance and 2. there is significant value in content being separated into many specific threads that can be archived, locked, searched, linked and revived/reopened.

Reddit, discord, facebook etc. tend to offer one but not the other, or neither, or parts of both but not all of both.


I personally like forums far more than the alternative. I can tolerate reddit (which I actually see as a replacement to usenet), but I hate how posts can't be bumped. Social media is indeed the competitor to forums and forums are waging a losing battle. I guess if you want to build a forum, you have to pluck members from those, because that's where people tend to flock to first.


I read a fair amount on Reddit (often skim more than anything else), but the architecture of it for discussions is rankling and I hate trying to participate there, so I mostly don't. Discord, Facebook, Twitter, etc. are also nettling for various reasons. Part of why I'm here now is that I still like the way this forum is organized, and most other places I've been active in or lurked on just aren't what they used to be anymore. I guess this happens to most people eventually, but it seems I just have a completely different way of relating to media than the post-millennial generation does now (though undoubtedly there are a few exceptions in both directions).

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I love forums compared to everything else.

Like the poster above me said, participating in discussions on Reddit is pure hell.

It's a bunch of 12 year olds trying to repeat the same phrases that have been said to death first.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:19 pm 
 

(At least for music) Reddit is pretty much youtube spam followed by a few half-assed responses (if lucky). Not a fan of the up/down-voting mechanism either. I hate forums with circle-jerking features as well.

The only thing with reddit I like is that its an omni-forum where you only need one account to access everything (as opposed to making different accounts for countless forums). Sometimes with a forum or subreddit, all I need to do is ask one question and then I'm done with it.

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LithoJazzoSphere
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:47 pm 
 

CoconutBackwards wrote:
Like the poster above me said, participating in discussions on Reddit is pure hell.

It's a bunch of 12 year olds trying to repeat the same phrases that have been said to death first.


Death Mantra wrote:
(At least for music) Reddit is pretty much youtube spam followed by a few half-assed responses (if lucky). Not a fan of the up/down-voting mechanism either. I hate forums with circle-jerking features as well.


Yeah, the like/dislike and upvote/downvote systems on those sort of sites reward passive engagement, low-effort pithy and banal memes and such.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:21 pm 
 

Slater922 wrote:
doomicus wrote:
The quantity of activity has obviously gone down since 2005-2007, but I'd argue that the quality now is much higher to be honest. Posters are much more willing to actually discuss music rather than posture over each other and hurl goofy insults back and forth these days.

Agreed. In fact, I came across this relic the other day about a guy asking why Slipknot and Rammstein aren't on here, but Mötley Crüe is allowed. And let me just say that the replies here were WILD. :eek:


Basically every metal forum was like that back then. This place was considered more mature and sensible compared to somewhere like the FMP forum. Things are different now because of stricter moderation (both here and on the wider internet).

It wasn't just forums either. Blog posts, band interviews and even album booklets used to have that kind of vibe. People are just a lot more careful about avoiding being offensive now than they were in the 90s and 2000s, and that includes people in the metal scene.

wizard_of_bore wrote:
I would say this board had a golden era. For good or bad, new rules came out and a lot of people left or were banned. It killed that original vibe. It didn't ruin the board, it changed the atmosphere. Its not a knock, its just my opinion. Anyone who has ever been considered a "legendary" poster, ends up being banned or left. The new rules don't allow for those type of antics.


Pretty much. The current tone of the forum is more conducive to serious discussion but is also less "fun".

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Death Mantra wrote:
Discord/reddit and probably facebook are the main reasons why forums are dead these days (and I don't see forums coming back anytime soon).


Bit of an aside, but I'm not so sure about that. Won't be the same as during the golden era, of course, and forums as primary means of general written group communication certainly is dead, but I have been seeing non-negligible amounts of forum revival in a lot of niche/specialist communities, especially when 1. good support for both lengthy, well-formatted text and in-text images (in not only the starting opener but all further posts/comments in a thread as well; and within the *same* post not separate posts) is of major importance and 2. there is significant value in content being separated into many specific threads that can be archived, locked, searched, linked and revived/reopened.

Reddit, discord, facebook etc. tend to offer one but not the other, or neither, or parts of both but not all of both.


I think a combination of censorship and not wanting all your internet activity tied to an account your friends/family/employers interact with is leading to a revival of interest in more private and niche internet dicussion spaces. Discord has been a big beneficiary of that but I think forums might see some benefit too.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:23 pm 
 

hells_unicorn wrote:
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Speaking of, I'm noticing "Droneriot" must've quit the board.




I don't know if Drone actually quit the forum, but he hasn't been doing much of late. Did something happen in a thread recently that would have him saying he wasn't coming back? I'm more curious than anything else.


He had another spat with Derigin over something stupid and proceeded to have a psychotic episode in the FFA thread about it. I'd actually feel bad for him if he wasn't already an established asshole.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:48 pm 
 

Wilytank wrote:
He had another spat with Derigin over something stupid and proceeded to have a psychotic episode in the FFA thread about it. I'd actually feel bad for him if he wasn't already an established asshole.


Just got done reading the rant, and it reads that he was permanently banned. He's had episodes like this before, we got into it once back in 2008 I believe, we ended up patching things up later and getting along fairly well for a while, which everybody else thought was bizarre at the time. We hadn't interacted much in the past couple years, so I'm not really sure how to feel about this, though given the posts I understand why he was given the axe.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:41 pm 
 

Death Mantra wrote:
Another major problem with specialized forums is that its subject matter has already been discussed to death. You can only circle-jerk the same bands and discuss the same topics so many times before it becomes boring. This wasn't a problem in the late 90s and 00s, but its a major problem for me now.


Yeah, because there is no new metal music coming out anymore.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:15 pm 
 

Yeah, I forgot to make a mention of new releases. I guess there isn't much new metal coming out these days that interests me, so its easy to make such an omission. I'd be more enthusiastic if there was a power/prog resurgence (ie, to the level it was back in the late 90s/early 00s). I have marginal interest in extreme metal these days (so that excludes me from most topics about new releases).

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