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Coastliner
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:19 pm 
 

I wasn't sure if I should write anything as I didn't (and still don't) know what to say but if you don't say anything it's as if the rock from space doesn't even leave a dent.

In the next few days, I'll probably listen to lots of Howe and remember that "Anthem to the Estranged" and "Badlands" were big guns back in the day and that "Fake Healer" had one of metal's finest signature riffs. R.I.P.
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KrigareTjovane
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:33 pm 
 

Dude was a great singer. He had the misfortune of joining around the time the band lost a lot of steam musically but you wouldn't know it from his performances. Unpopular take probably, but I think he elevated their early 90s material from okay to decent. And that voice... when you heard Mike Howe singing, you knew it was fucking Mike Howe.

A true shame. May he rest.

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OzzyApu
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:42 pm 
 

Played a whole lot of Metal Church today at work (debut through Balance) and both vocalists are great. Once I got to Blessing in Disguise and "Fake Healer" comes on it crushes. Howe's instantly recognizable singing comes in and it hits hard. RIP Will be blasting "In Mourning" loud after this post and checking out that Heretic debut I never got around to hearing.
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Immortal666
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:32 am 
 

RIP, Mike Howe. Such classic albums released by Metal Church with his vocals gracing their music.

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Dungeon_Vic
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:26 am 
 

Very sad news, Mike Howe was not only a fantastic singer (who kept his voice till the end), he was also such a loveable guy with a constant smile and great energy.

First five Metal Church are mandatory metal imo. Human Factor included.
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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:18 am 
 

It does seem like The Human Factor doesn't get the same love; it's also a great album like their other early ones. No weak songs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:27 am 
 

As many other users have already pointed out, this literally came out of nowhere. Really shocking news.
I've always liked Metal Church since I've found out about them. I had the opportunity to see them live, back in 2017. All of them were great musicians and Mike had an enthusiastic stage presence.

May he rest in peace.

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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:18 am 
 

Gotta say Damned if You Do is sounding very good actually, almost like it could've been recorded a few years after Hanging in the Balance. Still not as creative as their classics but the sound is punchier and has more conviction, and the shorter songs work here. The band sounds more at ease here. The only big problem with these last few albums is that they come from a band who wrote "Anthem for the Estranged" and "End of the Age" among others. Bar's too high.
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CannibalCorpse
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:02 am 
 

Empyreal wrote:
Bar's too high.


Definitely true. I'm listening to this era again these days and the only part of it that sounds absolutely as great as it did in the late 80s/early 90s is Mike Howe himself.

I'm gonna miss this man. I really will.
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colin040
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:10 am 
 

Empyreal wrote:
The only big problem with these last few albums is that they come from a band who wrote "Anthem for the Estranged" and "End of the Age" among others. Bar's too high.


Really disagree here; to me the new stuff just sounds like Metal Church-by-the-numbers. I can totally forgive the band for going for a more straightforward approach to songwriting, but none of what I've heard really stood out - even if Howe continued to sound incredible on the new stuff.

Empyreal wrote:
It does seem like The Human Factor doesn't get the same love; it's also a great album like their other early ones. No weak songs.


I prefer the two albums that surround this one, but it's still pretty fun from time to time. ''The Final Word'' rocks extremely hard. :)

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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:06 am 
 

Damned if You Do can stand up with what they did before; it doesn't beat any of it but it's a solid ass album.

And yes the other two of the first Mike Howe albums were better, but all three are essential.
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interstellar_medium
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:09 am 
 

colin040 wrote:
to me the new stuff just sounds like Metal Church-by-the-numbers


The new stuff was 100% Vanderhoof with a slight Howe filter; the old stuff had Wells and Marshall writing a good chunk of music as well.

Damn, I was sure Howe was going to live to be a hundred years old.

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MetalManiaCometh
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 am 
 

I guess Mikes death was ruled a suicide….this is really tough to swallow… :(

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Speed Metal Terror
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 am 
 

It looks like the COD is being ruled a suicide. *sigh*
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:55 am 
 

The band just put out an official statement saying that "he was victimized by a failing healthcare system and subsequently poisoned by the venom of big-pharma."

I know they are grieving but I am not sure what to make of that.
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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:59 am 
 

Just saw that too, I guess it's just that we'll never know exactly what was going on as much as them and his family did. That's all I can say about it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:21 pm 
 

Twisted_Psychology wrote:
The band just put out an official statement


Which led to a bunch of conspiracy theorists and the like preaching their crap in the comments. Those people are like flies.

If it really was a suicide... damn. Poor guy.

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MRmehman
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:37 pm 
 

Sadly I'm not familiar with Mike Howe's era of Metal Church so now sounds like as good a time as any to check Blessing in Disguise out. I remember reading DawnoftheShred's review of that album when I first joined the site years ago and put it on my list of "classics" to check out someday.

RIP Mike Howe, no doubt screaming with the best of them now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:42 pm 
 

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialMetalC ... 276876225/

They put out another statement clarifying more.

Quote:
We were in no way, shape or form referring to anything in relation to vaccinations, COVID or politics. We were saying our brother was hurting and while he was seeking medical care for it, the treatments he was utilizing did not protect him. Otherwise, he would still be with us today.


Which, I don't know how you would have interpreted the original statement any other way, but I'm not some kind of crackpot antivax piece of shit...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:33 pm 
 

There was no other legitimate interpretation unless you're a total paranoîd tool. This guy seemed to be the most happy-go-lucky dude ever. He must've been suffering in silence for a while now but it's obvious that the goddamned pandemic must've exacerbated his problems. I'm truely heartbroken for his family and friends.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:13 am 
 

Heartbreaking.
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doomicus
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:04 pm 
 

Situations like this really highlights the importance of medical care for those with depression and other mental illnesses. It's a shame that a lot of places don't take self-care and treatment seriously.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:24 pm 
 

doomicus wrote:
Situations like this really highlights the importance of medical care for those with depression and other mental illnesses. It's a shame that a lot of places don't take self-care and treatment seriously.

Or the general public, constantly telling people to man up or quit being a baby.

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Speed Metal Terror
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:45 pm 
 

This entire pandemic has made it tough on people with depression and other afflictions.
Numerous relatives of mine have had issues seeing therapists/doctors and getting medication.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:00 am 
 

I'm even more devastated with (apparently) suicide being the cause of death...

You can't really look inside people, I suppose....no matter the image of a person they're portraying to the outside world.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:25 am 
 

Empyreal wrote:
It does seem like The Human Factor doesn't get the same love; it's also a great album like their other early ones. No weak songs.

Agreed. Out of Howe's early ones, and indeed the band's early ones (first five), I find it very difficult to pick a favorite or make a mental ranking which I tend to do with all bands.

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des91
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:57 pm 
 

It’s been awhile since I heard it all the way through but I recall The Human Factor being great until after “In Due Time”, where I kinda gets really weak.

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Lagartija
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:59 pm 
 

Really shit news, I was really hoping to see them one day...
I went through a MC phase a few weeks ago as a result of the thread on here and re-listened to 'Human factor' and 'Blessing in disguise' plus bought 'Damned if you do'. All killer albums full of great moments :(

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Lagartija
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:03 pm 
 

des91 wrote:
Morrigan wrote:
Horrible news. :( Only 55, too.

Blessing in Disguise and Hanging in the Balance are among my favourite Metal Church albums.


Also his band Heretic had a great self titled as well.

Yes, thanks for reminding me about that one. I heard it a while ago and loved it, time for a revisit/purchase.
EDIT: 'Breaking point', right? Not S/T...

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:27 pm 
 

Lagartija wrote:
des91 wrote:
Morrigan wrote:
Horrible news. :( Only 55, too.

Blessing in Disguise and Hanging in the Balance are among my favourite Metal Church albums.


Also his band Heretic had a great self titled as well.

Yes, thanks for reminding me about that one. I heard it a while ago and loved it, time for a revisit/purchase.
EDIT: 'Breaking point', right? Not S/T...


Yes!

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