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Rocka_Rollas
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Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:08 am
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:34 am 
 

Face_your_fear_79 wrote:
Judas Priest Screaming For Vengeance. 80s crystal production. Real clear.

What, no?

I love the sound of the album, for the reason that it doesn't sound "crystal clear" xD

Screaming For Vengeance sounds like its recorded in a room like a "well made demo recording", especially the boxy drums
I LOVE IT, but thats how I hear it.

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Gravetemplar
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Joined: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:08 am
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Location: Antarctica
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:45 am 
 

This thread has taught me metalheads don't understand the concept of high fidelity. At this point I'm just waiting for someone to post Transilvanian Hunger.

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King_of_Arnor
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Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:35 pm
Posts: 155
Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:19 pm 
 

des91 wrote:
King_of_Arnor wrote:
Death's Symbolic is one of the best sounding death metal albums, especially for its time. Everything is crystal clear yet heavy at the same time.


Have you listened to the 2011 remaster of Human? Holy fuck it sounds AMAZING and I’m not a huge fan of remasters at all.


Agreed, it's such a good remaster that it boosted my rating of that album. So I think the remaster makes it better than Spiritual Healing and Individual Thought Patterns. Mostly due to Steve DiGiorgio's bass being much clearer.

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Rocka_Rollas
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Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:08 am
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:50 pm 
 

King_of_Arnor wrote:
des91 wrote:
King_of_Arnor wrote:
Death's Symbolic is one of the best sounding death metal albums, especially for its time. Everything is crystal clear yet heavy at the same time.


Have you listened to the 2011 remaster of Human? Holy fuck it sounds AMAZING and I’m not a huge fan of remasters at all.


Agreed, it's such a good remaster that it boosted my rating of that album. So I think the remaster makes it better than Spiritual Healing and Individual Thought Patterns. Mostly due to Steve DiGiorgio's bass being much clearer.


Guys, get your terms correct.

Death "Human" 2011 is REMIXED. Not just remastered.

"Now remixed under the watchful eye of longtime DEATH producer Jim Morris, Human 2011 represents the fully-realized version of this epic album."

Remixing is a whole different thing from remastering.

Here's the process of making music in general:

1. Writing the songs
2. Recording the songs
3. Mixing the recordings
4. Mastering

If an album is only remastered, the mix is gonna be the same.
If an album is remixed, the recordings are the same as original.
If an album is re-recording, the writing is possibly the same.
And so fourth.

And if a album is re-written, its also re-recorded, re-mixed and re-mastered as well.


But I think this is important because so many people throw around the term "remastered" a lot these days, especially in the gaming world, and I think it reduces the importance of different terms and their meanings.

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Benedict Donald
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Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:36 am
Posts: 108
Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:02 pm 
 

Rocka_Rollas wrote:

Death "Human" 2011 is REMIXED. Not just remastered.

Remixing is a whole different thing from remastering.

If an album is remixed, the recordings are the same as original.


I SO wish that more bands would remix their back catalogs (I know it's likely a minority view). Remixing breathes new life into classics you've heard a million times and makes them feel "anew".

The prog rock remixes conducted by Steven Wilson (of Tull, Crimson, Yes, etc) have been astounding. Flotsam's "Doomsday" remix made a great album even better!

The classic Purple stuff has been remixed to a lesser degree and all is essential listening. The Megadeth remixes were hit & miss....could have been better.

IMO, the ideal "deluxe" edition of any album would include:
- original master
- remaster
- remix
- live recording from that era or album's tour
- outtakes, Bsides

I also pay good money to have remixed versions of:
Maiden - X Factor
Maiden - FOTD
Kiss - Hotter than Hell (only St Anger has a worse snare sound!)
Metallica - Justice
all Zeppelin studio albums
Slayer - Hell Awaits (its raw production suits it well, but Id love to hear another take on it)
Mercyful Fate - Time (needs some bottom end desperately!)
Testament - New Order

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des91
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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:51 pm
Posts: 141
Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:12 pm 
 

Wow! I actually thought Human was just a remaster genuinely. Did not think it was a whole remix. Definitely a successful one.

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Face_your_fear_79
Metalhead

Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:18 am
Posts: 439
Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:11 pm 
 

Rocka_Rollas wrote:
Face_your_fear_79 wrote:
Judas Priest Screaming For Vengeance. 80s crystal production. Real clear.

What, no?

I love the sound of the album, for the reason that it doesn't sound "crystal clear" xD

Screaming For Vengeance sounds like its recorded in a room like a "well made demo recording", especially the boxy drums
I LOVE IT, but thats how I hear it.


Ok, crystal clear very well is probably not a good thing to say.

But I still say overall the production on this album is of very high quality. Super high actually.

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