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Metal_On_The_Ascendant
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:12 pm 
 

Holy hell those photos :lol:

He's not self-aware it seems. Having Melissa in the band would actually have leant some authenticity to Absu.... some realness attached to actual humanity. This whole new band name (and those fucking song titles) are now sounding stupider than ever.
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FLIPPITYFLOOP wrote:
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How do you think they would have reacted to Gary Holt becoming a woman?

Just saw this. I suspect they wouldn't really give a shit too much and probably wouldn't talk about it unless asked. I could be wrong of course though, as I'm not a huge Slayer fan and don't know too much about the personalities behind the band, besides what I quoted earlier.


Yeah, for a band this big, it would probably either just go fairly well, or it might even become kind of this iconic exception that many people who otherwise would have at least some kind of prejudice towards this specific type of human beings would totally embrace as some sort of hmm... token? You know, similarly to the "if you don't like Priest because of Halford's coming out, then you're gay" line? Like, it's equal parts "hey! I'm cool with it" and "ah, but I don't really know what it is"? I could see that happening, at least. (*)

(*) And yeah, it's a step in the right direction, even if it's backwards at least in this form. I don't doubt that Halford's example helped improve tolerance of gay people in certain parts of the metal community. It's just that, well, just the fact that there were people who actually considered whether or not the singer's sexual orientation should have an impact on their opinion of the band also shows that a good part of the audience had issues to work upon.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:43 pm 
 

At any rate, it's a waste of time to entertain hypotheticals that some of these clowns try to spin. Gary Holt is a cis dude and has fuck all to do with the social issue at hand.
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FLIPPITYFLOOP
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:27 pm 
 

LegendMaker wrote:
FLIPPITYFLOOP wrote:
Invocation wrote:
How do you think they would have reacted to Gary Holt becoming a woman?

Just saw this. I suspect they wouldn't really give a shit too much and probably wouldn't talk about it unless asked. I could be wrong of course though, as I'm not a huge Slayer fan and don't know too much about the personalities behind the band, besides what I quoted earlier.


Yeah, for a band this big, it would probably either just go fairly well, or it might even become kind of this iconic exception that many people who otherwise would have at least some kind of prejudice towards this specific type of human beings would totally embrace as some sort of hmm... token? You know, similarly to the "if you don't like Priest because of Halford's coming out, then you're gay" line? Like, it's equal parts "hey! I'm cool with it" and "ah, but I don't really know what it is"? I could see that happening, at least. (*)

(*) And yeah, it's a step in the right direction, even if it's backwards at least in this form. I don't doubt that Halford's example helped improve tolerance of gay people in certain parts of the metal community. It's just that, well, just the fact that there were people who actually considered whether or not the singer's sexual orientation should have an impact on their opinion of the band also shows that a good part of the audience had issues to work upon.


Indeed. And yeah, tokenism can be a little tricky in that sense - on one hand, the "token" opens up the possibility that not all of X-type-of-person are bad, but on the other hand it can be a tool for bigots to evade that train of thought and not confront it because "oh they're one of the good ones..." - and from the comments from people in this thread, I assume I shouldn't have to explain why that's fucked.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:59 am 
 

I just wanted to say that I've been really encouraged by a lot of the responses here. It warms the cockles of this trans girl's heart. Thanks y'all, love you all!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:23 pm 
 

Awwwww :)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:11 pm 
 

slavonic777 wrote:
For the rest, I would say that if you have a band, and you are the establishing member and a leader of the band, you can kick out of the band whoever you want, for whatever reason, but what you see here are people thinking they know better who should or should not be in a particular band... ridiculous.

What you see here is the ridiculous idea that band leaders are also subject to the consequences of their own actions put into practice.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:21 pm 
 

Sedition and Pockets wrote:
I just wanted to say that I've been really encouraged by a lot of the responses here. It warms the cockles of this trans girl's heart. Thanks y'all, love you all!


Of course!! We have your back in here!! FUCK TRANSPHOBIA!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:14 am 
 

McGovern didn't want a woman in the band. Where did he say he didn't want a Trans-woman in the band? He pretty much acknowledged her as a woman. A "woman has no place..". Why does he have to change the band's image to accommodate her? That makes him a bigot? It makes him selfish as fuck. The big fault I see is that he basically asked her NOT to come out for the sake of his band/legacy. That's a staggeringly self-absorbed thing to suggest. But transphobic? I don't think it's that simple. She seems just a hair vindictive and is trying to ruin McGovern/the band because they didn't embrace her decision with open arms. It's sad. Heartbreaking for her. They handled it abysmally. I'm definitely way morte sympathetic to her but the reporting and condemnation is too simplistic. As a huge Absu fan I could not care less if Absu had a woman/Trans-woman member. I wish the dude would have thought that too. Is McGovern a phobe? Probably. It the strictest sense I reckon so but this isn't a case where they mocked her/insulted her/etc...or did I miss something?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:26 am 
 

By this line of thinking it is completely okay to fire somebody from their job for discriminatory reasons as long as you don't call them slurs on the way out.

Proscriptor doing nothing wrong because it's his right to do what he wants with his band is true in a strict libertarian sense, but nobody is calling for him to be fined or put in jail or anything. We're just calling him an asshole.
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BastardHead wrote:
Proscriptor doing nothing wrong because it's his right to do what he wants with his band is true in a strict libertarian sense, but nobody is calling for him to be fined or put in jail or anything. We're just calling him an asshole.

Aside from what people here are saying, Vis Crom is also not disputing being fired from the band, so yeah he did indeed exercise his right to fire a band member and nobody, not even the band member concerned, is claiming he did anything illegal. Just more of the odd kind of reason you get from the "being criticised is censorship/limits free speech" type of crowd who never realise that criticising a thing is as much a right as doing the thing.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:26 am 
 

BastardHead wrote:
By this line of thinking it is completely okay to fire somebody from their job for discriminatory reasons as long as you don't call them slurs on the way out.

Proscriptor doing nothing wrong because it's his right to do what he wants with his band is true in a strict libertarian sense, but nobody is calling for him to be fined or put in jail or anything. We're just calling him an asshole.


I wish he handled it better. He totally fucked up. Cowardly. Worried about how her coming out would look on the band. I reckon he calculated having a trans-woman in the band would hurt them with fans and that's the saddest part, really. As a fan that owns their whole catalog it wouldn't have bothered me. She shreds. I hope McGovern responds soon. Not sure how much damage control he can do. I'm still a fan of the music but I'd pass on having a beer with him and talking politics.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:57 am 
 

More info about this whole thing on this MetalCucks article

https://www.metalsucks.net/2020/07/24/e ... her-songs/

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:45 am 
 

Deathstalker1985 wrote:
More info about this whole thing on this MetalCucks article

https://www.metalsucks.net/2020/07/24/e ... her-songs/


Off topic but is there a metal related news website that doesn’t suck? I’ve been using blabbermouth for years but I’m so damn tired of seeing every washed up musicians political opinion and the metalsucks site layout for mobile is horrible.

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I archived the page for anyone interested in reading this but unwilling to give clicks to that garbage site. Spoilered for size.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:14 pm 
 

New song:



Here's the absolute kerfuffle that is their press release for the single. Spoiler for it's gargantuan size:

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PROSCRIPTOR MCGOVERN’S APSÛ Reveals New Song “Caliginous Whorl”
Following the recent announcement of Proscriptor McGovern’s Apsû’s self-titled debut album, which is set for release on November 26th via Agonia Records, the Texas-based “mythological occult metal” act now unveils the album’s first single, “Caliginous Whorl.”

Proscriptor McGovern’s Apsû constitutes a new incarnation and direct continuation of Absu’s legacy. Touted as one of the most important bands in the history of American Black Metal, Absu was dissolved by drummer/vocalist Proscriptor McGovern (Russ R. Givens) on January 27th, 2020, after 30 years of existence. Since the band’s last, unreleased album was to be penned as “Apsû,” McGovern fused the title with his name to form this new group, Proscriptor McGovern’s Apsû. Securing the ranks, alongside McGovern, are continuing bassist Ezezu (Absu: 2008-2020), new guitar virtuoso Vaggreaz (Possessed, Gruesome) and keyboardist Vorskaath (Zemial, Agatus). With this much anticipated, self-titled album, McGovern’s objective was to append the signature sound of “mythological occult metal,” but to convolute it with bouts of psychedelia, fusion and vintage electronics.

When asked about the album’s final outcome, McGovern stated the following: “Having the opportunity to assemble these band members, in the development of this album, was a remarkable honour and I strongly feel this album captures the band’s true, yet frenzied potential.” McGovern, who also produced and co–engineered the album, added: “I specifically appointed these three to augment and heighten the overall sound portrait of these recordings, hoping that our emphasis on ‘mythological occult metal,’ coupled with progressive and psychedelic elements, clutches the listener’s momentum. Most importantly, I highly commend Agonia Records for migrating our musical and arcane foresight onto the next level.”

The album was chronicled at studios around the world with final mixing handled in Dallas, Texas by both McGovern and J.T. Longoria (Absu, King Diamond, Solitude Aeternus) and mastering by Swedish Grammy nominee Karl Daniel Lidén in Sweden. The album also features guest appearances from Ross Friedman (Ross The Boss, ex-Manowar), Rune Eriksen (Aura Noir, Vltimas, ex-Mayhem), Alex Colin-Tocquaine (Agressor) and The Dark (Agatus).

In assembling the album’s packaging, the band re-commissioned the expertise of renowned Polish artist Zbigniew Bielak (Darkthrone, Portal, Watain). Not only did he administer the front cover, but also was assigned to create eight separate “plate illustrations” tailored around the lyrical conceptions. Regarding Bielak’s work, McGovern stated: “With incredible rapidity, he was able to resuscitate the artistic pulse after I presented the album’s subject speculations and lyrical themes. Some plate illustrations are affiliated with multiple songs; others integrated to only one song, yet Zbigniew perfectly surmounted each piece reflecting my oblique and ‘in–betweeness’ motifs.”

McGovern continues regarding the album’s lyrical approach: “This album was written for those who are curious and unwearied in their quest of arcane knowledge. I have (with vast exertion and detriment of time and space) collected knowledge deemed, in regard to my subject theories of ‘mythological occult metal:’ from Thelemic Magick and The Zos Vel Thanatos Formula to Fractal Ontology and (obviously) Near East Mythology.”

Track listing for “Proscriptor McGovern’s Apsû” is:

I. Amenta: Accelerando: Azyn including Hierophantasmal Expounder
II. Esoterically Excoriating The Exoteric
III. Quasaric Pestilence
IV. Mirroracles
V. In-Betweeness Gateway Commuters
VI. Jupiter In Capricornus
VII. Dedicated To Thoth, But Azathoth Wasn’t Listening (A Necroloquy)
VIII. Caliginous Whorl
IX. The Coagulating Respite
X. Prana: Therion: Akasha
XI. Tantrums Of Azag-Kkû
XII. Every Watchtower Within Is The Axis Of A Watchtower Without including Totemic Thresholds

Formats:
- Jewelcase CD
- Digi Slipcase CD
- Clam–Shell Box CD (Limited To 1000 Numbered Copies With Pin & Front Cover Flag)
- Black LP
- Swamp Green LP
- Gold LP
- Mercurial Silver LP
- Ultra Clear LP
- Picture LP
- Mephitic Vapour Splatter LP
- Cassette
- Digital

Clothing:
- T-shirt 1 – Quasaric Pestilence (White On Black)
- T-shirt 2 – Tantrums Of Azag-Kkû (Black On Gray)
- T-shirt 3 – Logo With Sleeve Prints (Red On Black)
- Black HSW Zipper

PROSCRIPTOR MCGOVERN’S APSÛ is:
Proscriptor McGovern – Drums/Percussion, Lyricism, Maestro Echoplex, Papago Flute, Digital Synthesizers & Voices (Protagonist/Dramatic Monologue Versus Omniscient/Interior Monologue)
Vorskaath – (Analogue & Digital) Synthesizers, Classical/Acoustic Guitar, Mellotron & Signal Generator
Vaggreaz – Electric Lead, Rhythm, Acoustic & Bass Guitar
Ezezû – Electric Bass Guitar & Implements

Pre-orders:
https://www.apsu.us

PROSCRIPTOR MCGOVERN’S APSÛ on-line:
Website: https://absu.us
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/officialabsu
Twitter: https://twitter.com/absunetwork
SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/absu
Bandcamp: https://absu.bandcamp.com/
Instagram: https://instagram.com/officialabsu
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialABSUChannel
Reverbnation: https://www.reverbnation.com/absu
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/3eVkhnD2UKVjX5uiUsqfXP

Agonia Records:
Website: https://agoniarecords.com
Webshop: https://agoniarecords.com/store
Facebook: https://facebook.com/agoniarecords
Twitter: https://twitter.com/agoniarecords
SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/agoniarecords
Bandcamp: https://agoniarecords.bandcamp.com
Instagram: https://instagram.com/agoniarecordsofficial
YouTube: http://youtube.com/AgoniaRec


As for the song itself, it's sick, which I guess was to be expected. Ruthless as fuck. Absolute ripper. Killer riffs, drumming and vocals, and awesome soloing. Sounds like what you'd expect from modern-era Absu, akin to Abzu (I feel like they're just gonna find as many ways to spell that word as possible at this point).

Melissa Moore was a sick songwriter, clearly. It's a shame that Proscriptor's such a dick. Sucks what happened to this band.

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frostjunkie wrote:
Deathstalker1985 wrote:
More info about this whole thing on this MetalCucks article

https://www.metalsucks.net/2020/07/24/e ... her-songs/


Off topic but is there a metal related news website that doesn’t suck? I’ve been using blabbermouth for years but I’m so damn tired of seeing every washed up musicians political opinion and the metalsucks site layout for mobile is horrible.

All of them seem pretty garbage sadly. I rely mostly on the MA Forums and word of mouth for my metal news these days.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:58 pm 
 

Yeah, that new song is cool. It's got an urgency I often found missing from the self-titled, and I find the riffs to be at least on par, if not slightly better, than most of those on Abzu.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:02 pm 
 

Really bummed Vorskaath contributed to this. I'm facebook friends with him and always got the feeling he was a stand-up dude, guess he doesn't mind working with transphobic dickheads.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:05 pm 
 

The song is kickass, but wtf are these song titles? :lol:

"Dedicated To Thoth, But Azathoth Wasn’t Listening (A Necroloquy)"

"Esoterically Excoriating The Exoteric"

Wow.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:17 pm 
 

narsilianshard wrote:
Really bummed Vorskaath contributed to this. I'm facebook friends with him and always got the feeling he was a stand-up dude, guess he doesn't mind working with transphobic dickheads.


Proscriptor has been the live vocalist for Zemial for a while now, it's not like it's the first time they've worked together. I can't speak for him, but I imagine he's not the type of person who would automatically break up a friendship or shun working with someone because they may hold views other people find objectionable. My guess is that since he was never involved in the drama with Melissa directly and this new project is not a soapbox for said views, he doesn't find anything particularly wrong with contributing to it.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:40 pm 
 

"Proscriptor McGovern's Apsu"???!!!

What a terrible name.

It sounds like an aphrodisiac Abe and Homer Simpson would sell.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:44 pm 
 

CoconutBackwards wrote:
"Proscriptor McGovern's Apsu"???!!!

What a terrible name.

It sounds like an aphrodisiac Abe and Homer Simpson would sell.


I absolutely LOVE that they explained precisely how he came up with the name of the band in the press release.

(Proscriptor McGovern was already a terrible stage name...)

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New song isn't great to be honest. Not bad but not incredible either.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:30 pm 
 

I expect this album to be a blast. Proscriptor (most likely unintentionally on his part) has always been super goofy with his stage persona and aesthetic as well as song titles and lyrics. This seems right in line with that. Honestly excited to hear this especially since the Zemial dude is involved.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:37 pm 
 

Curious_dead wrote:
The song is kickass, but wtf are these song titles? :lol:

"Dedicated To Thoth, But Azathoth Wasn’t Listening (A Necroloquy)"

"Esoterically Excoriating The Exoteric"

Wow.

Yeah, they've had some goofy song titles before ("In the Name of Auebothiabathabaithobeuee" being my favorite), but these are next-level. They sound like they were the product of a lot of drugs.

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I've only listened to a little bit of Absu, But with the songs I have heard earlier in their career this new track sounds like a massive downgrade musically.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:02 am 
 

This is everything I want in an Absu/Apsu album. Hotly anticipating this monster.
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Is Ezezu out of Apsu now too? I might have missed that but his profile has been updated to denote that he's now ex-Apsu.

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Funny thing to me about the whole transphobic drama is that it would've fit with their occult / esoteric / Mesopotamian / whatever the fuck aesthetic to have a trans member of the band, what with androgynous and gender-shifting gods and all that. Would've been pretty interesting to hone in on that idea.

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This will be excellent, Proscriptor never fails to deliver.

He clearly didnt want a extreme narcissist in the band , so he got rid.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:14 am 
 

zeusreal wrote:
This will be excellent, Proscriptor never fails to deliver.

He clearly didnt want a extreme narcissist in the band , so he got rid.


could you elaborate on that
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asphaalanx wrote:
Is Ezezu out of Apsu now too? I might have missed that but his profile has been updated to denote that he's now ex-Apsu.


I'm curious about this too. Not seeing any word of it on their social medias (I don't follow Ezezu on IG or anything so I can't speak for that), and he's still listed on the band's website with a photo and everything. I'm wondering if this is just an error.

CoconutBackwards wrote:
"Proscriptor McGovern's Apsu"???!!!

What a terrible name.

It sounds like an aphrodisiac Abe and Homer Simpson would sell.


For real. He probably could've just changed the B to a P and add the accent over the U and that would be okay. But nope.

Melissa Moore should start a new band called "Absu Of Fire"

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FLIPPITYFLOOP wrote:
asphaalanx wrote:
Is Ezezu out of Apsu now too? I might have missed that but his profile has been updated to denote that he's now ex-Apsu.


I'm curious about this too. Not seeing any word of it on their social medias (I don't follow Ezezu on IG or anything so I can't speak for that), and he's still listed on the band's website with a photo and everything. I'm wondering if this is just an error.

The report of him exiting Absu/Apsû cites this screencap, already from March.

The new song is okay. It would be interesting to hear from Melissa if this new song has any of her riffs. Hopefully not.

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Ball Cupper wrote:
zeusreal wrote:
This will be excellent, Proscriptor never fails to deliver.

He clearly didnt want a extreme narcissist in the band , so he got rid.


could you elaborate on that



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:30 pm 
 

sorry but is no proof of anything thats just a picture somebody posted on the internet.

narsilianshard wrote:
Really bummed Vorskaath contributed to this. I'm facebook friends with him and always got the feeling he was a stand-up dude, guess he doesn't mind working with transphobic dickheads.


if you think somebody will break up a friendship lasting 30 years for being a dick once you need to get out of your anglobox.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:48 pm 
 

zeusreal wrote:
Ball Cupper wrote:
zeusreal wrote:
This will be excellent, Proscriptor never fails to deliver.
He clearly didnt want a extreme narcissist in the band , so he got rid.

could you elaborate on that

big blue image


damn that's unreal, got a link to the source?
edit: I actually read all that, assuming it's true I generally agree with it
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:24 pm 
 

I'd like more information on the source of the blue text image. Looks fucking wild. Is it just something that someone "leaked", or is there actual grounding for it being factual demands made by Melissa? And if so, where does it fit into the timeline of Absu imploding?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:47 am 
 

Yeah that needs a source, timeline and context.

eg - If that's a real statement from Melissa after the split, then generally I agree with it, and absolutely if Proscriptor is still using her music for the record. I wasn't clear on that, I thought she refused to allow P. to use her music?

- or, if that's a real statement but somehow it's before the split, then i'd be pretty confused. I mean, as requests i'd understand and support, but considering Absu is ultimately, legally P.'s band (..right?) then how could she have demanded this? Unless Absu's ownership was an equal split?

Yeah blue box needs verification and timestamp.

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GOOFAM
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:30 am 
 

Well, it says "I am not a part of the band" directly, so you'd have to think post-split, yeah?

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