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Opus
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:25 pm 
 

I have been watching prog rock documentaries lately, and there they emphasize how important the format of the concept album was for the development of the music.
So what was the first metal concept album? I can't come up with anything before The Warning in 1984. Were there any concept albums that pre-dated prog metal?
Not counting Rush here.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:30 pm 
 

The second side of Rainbow - Rising is of course, not a correct answer in either sense, but still, I find it interesting as a concept across two songs.

I think in the first half of the 80s metal bands were just keen to get albums recorded and put out without big concepts around them. Late 80s with things like Seventh Son, Abigail and of course Mindcrime is the coming of age of the genre and bands being able to flex a bit like the classic and prog rock bands did in the 60s and 70s.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:25 am 
 

At War With Satan from earlier in 1984 predates the release of The Warning:

http://www.venomslegions.com/biography/venom-biog.htm
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The At War With Satan album idea started off as a story I wrote while I was still at school. It was going to be a Satanic Bible type idea that I wanted to have published as a novel,” explains Cronos. “It was about the battle between Heaven and Hell. I had the whole idea mapped out. And then it turned into this concept album.

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Loads of people were amazed that a band like us decided to do a concept album, but to me it was no big deal. So what? It’s just a collection of songs and sounds. Like any other record. The difference with this was that every song linked into what went before.


Los 4 jinetes del apocalipsis from 1978 might be another candidate.

Oh, and Envoy of Death from 1980 is described as something of a concept album here:

https://www.metalcrypt.com/pages/review.php?revid=11385
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It's sort of a concept album where the first track introduces the titular character as he comes to judge the lives of six men and send them to their respective afterlives, with each track serving as one of their stories.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:24 am 
 

Cycle of Life from Sarcofagus is a concept album too, at least the first side of it. Their first album.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:48 pm 
 

Opus wrote:
I have been watching prog rock documentaries lately


Which ones? I feel like watching some too.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:21 pm 
 

BummerHigh wrote:
Which ones? I feel like watching some too.

Documentary - The Concept Album - UK Television (2016) Hosted by Rick Wakeman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avY1uIM3Rg0&t=1029s

Timeshift - 88 minute BBC 4 Prog Rock Documentary from 2003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB413O56tho&t=670s
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:28 pm 
 

DeadKid wrote:
At War With Satan.

Good one! This is straight into prog rock territory. I never thought of the B-side as to be part of the story too.

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Los 4 jinetes del apocalipsis from 1978 might be another candidate.
Oh, and Envoy of Death from 1980 is described as something of a concept album here

Thanks for these.
Did anyone outside of Finland know about Sarcofagus back in the day? I never heard of them until the internet came around, and I was checking out ALL metal albums in Sweden at the time.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:56 am 
 

Okay, so all of these are only part-conceptual...?

How about a full concept album from beginning to end with a story to tie it together? I'm thinking King Diamond's Abigail (1987) should be a starting point to jump backwards from.

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