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ChildClownOutlet
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:28 am 
 

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So apparently I just got this alert on Spotify that IE did a narrated album of some of their songs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:51 am 
 

He should've just called this "The Jon Schaffer Legal Defense Fund".

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nephilim80
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:45 am 
 

It still saddens me the whole thing honestly. I think most people knew right from The Glorious Burden that the dude was/is a massive patriot who then turned into a conspiracy theorist (just a fine line heh?) involved with sketchy right wing groups. I get that he was trying to fight for what he believes in, but damn, throwing the whole Iced Earth legacy (and Demons & Wizards) down the drain because "muh america" is sad. Now he's turned into a snitch for the feds, getting death threats from those sketchy groups who used to be his "friends" and get thrown literal shit in his face in prison. I wonder what Matt Barlow thinks of this.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:08 am 
 

nephilim80 wrote:
I wonder what Matt Barlow thinks of this.
He thinks everyone needs to be a lot less "judgemental": https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ex-ic ... udgmental/
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:32 am 
 

Look at that GOD AWFUL cover art though.

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LordOfTheGallows
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:49 am 
 

That cover art is atrocious good lord. Even if he hadn't done what he did I'd be skipping this, and I loved Iced Earth.

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LickMyOrangeBallsHalfling
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:58 am 
 

This whole Schaffer saga has probably been the funniest event in metal history.

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Zdan
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:00 am 
 

That artwork is atrocious and as for Schaffer he is a grown adult. He made his bed and now has to lay in it. I have a modicum of sympathy for him as a misguided human being but that only extends so much. I hope he learns his lesson and learns it well.

And all of this coming from someone who FUCKIN' ADORED the early IE stuff.

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Curious_dead
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:39 am 
 

Bad taste, ok execution? It's aimed at horny teenagers, but it's not the worst executed cover. "Hey I want succubi, with, like, very large breasts on this cover. The album is devoid of content that really matters, so we gotta get those titties on the cover to sell to horny young men."

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:08 pm 
 

Oh, to be in the alternate universe where Schaffer stayed home on January 6th and this is the Iced Earth-related thing to be the most embarrassed about.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:13 pm 
 

Twisted_Psychology wrote:
Oh, to be in the alternate universe where Schaffer stayed home on January 6th and this is the Iced Earth-related thing to be the most embarrassed about.


Yeah the mind boggles. The last IE album was pretty good and long epic song was a highlight. Stu Block fit that band. Shame.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:16 pm 
 

While that's all true, and the past year has been open season to dunk on Schaffer (and he certainly deserves it), it's not like it's either new or disconnected topically. The cover of Days of Purgatory is similar, and in Dante (Alighieri)'s Inferno (the book) the second circle of hell is lust, the canto of the queens, so it is thematic to it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:19 pm 
 

LithoJazzoSphere wrote:
While that's all true, and the past year has been open season to dunk on Schaffer (and he certainly deserves it), it's not like it's either new or disconnected topically. The cover of Days of Purgatory is similar, and in Dante's Inferno (the book) the second circle of hell is lust, the canto of the queens, so it is thematic to it.


Topically? No. But the execution is far from good. This one looks like a fourth-rate 90's Image comic rip-off. I guess it is done fairly well from a technical standpoint but that is about it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:22 pm 
 

I'm just saying it's in the comic style of previous work they've released. I don't think people really cared back then.

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Ex El Ex El Ex
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:38 pm 
 

Curious_dead wrote:
Bad taste, ok execution? It's aimed at horny teenagers, but it's not the worst executed cover. "Hey I want succubi, with, like, very large breasts on this cover. The album is devoid of content that really matters, so we gotta get those titties on the cover to sell to horny young men."

Incredibly charitable of you to assume that any teenagers nowadays are into Iced Earth.

Fuck, this is just such an obvious, desperate cash grab. Who the fuck wants a narrated IE album? As if anyone ever actually cared about the conceptual side of their music, and I'm saying this as someone who actually digs a fair bit of the band's career. Talk about taking a nosedive.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:52 pm 
 

That is the question - does anybody dive into Iced Earth because they cannot get enough of the "Something Wicked..." saga? Really?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:01 pm 
 

Set Abominae has never been much more than an Eddie rip off with a needlessly complicated backstory, so no, I don't think anyone loses sleep over the premise.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:23 pm 
 

Dude actually thinks big tiddy demon girls on cover art will still sell an album in 2022, let alone an Iced Earth album, let alone an Iced Earth spoken word album. What a time to be alive.

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ChildClownOutlet
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:31 pm 
 

I mean he's used the big titty demon girl before so I'm not seeing the issue of the album cover. The product is not needed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:35 pm 
 

ChildClownOutlet wrote:
I mean he's used the big titty demon girl before so I'm not seeing the issue of the album cover. The product is not needed.


This exactly. If you wanna have third rate drawings of big titty demon girls on your album cover then knock yourself out. I see no issue in that inherently. The problem is that this album is just unnecesarry and screams "cash grab".

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:02 pm 
 

The big titty demon girls are clearly part of the cash grab, which is what make the use of them pathetic, really.

Fuck Matt Barlow, too.

Frank Booth wrote:
Dude actually thinks big tiddy demon girls on cover art will still sell an album in 2022, let alone an Iced Earth album, let alone an Iced Earth spoken word album. What a time to be alive.


He knows his current audience consists of virgins browsing /pol/ who'll lap this shit up.

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ChoujuX
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:36 pm 
 

I swear I've heard this already, like two years ago. Huh.

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orphy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:48 pm 
 

Whoever buys this deserves how shitty it is.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:50 pm 
 

ChoujuX wrote:
I swear I've heard this already, like two years ago. Huh.

It’s been on a Kickstarter since 2020, probably released some songs off there.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:00 pm 
 

They needed to do a kickstarter for that???

They got it all wrong, you get the disc company to pay for the album, you get the fans to pay for your spa.

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ChildClownOutlet
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:10 pm 
 

Curious_dead wrote:
They needed to do a kickstarter for that???

They got it all wrong, you get the disc company to pay for the album, you get the fans to pay for your spa.


Most of this comes from his book that he wrote regarding his lyrics and stuff.
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It’s not that shocking besides the timing of it which is susceptible.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:45 pm 
 

Well, here it is, the most unnecessary release of 2022 - and it got here so early!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:33 pm 
 

Worst thing about the art is the lack of textures and poor contrast, concept is ok.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:38 pm 
 

Is this just an independent thing because I thought Century Media dropped all Schaffer projects.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:43 pm 
 

Just find it ironic and kinda funny when ppl are dissing on an entire, unreleased album and its eventual fanbase solely because of its cover, but then, proceed to listen and praise Ragnarok, Cradle of Filth and Eternal Champion lmao

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:45 pm 
 

MDL wrote:
Just find it ironic and kinda funny when ppl are dissing on an entire, unreleased album and its eventual fanbase solely because of its cover, but then, proceed to listen and praise Ragnarok, Cradle of Filth and Eternal Champion lmao


What is wrong with Eternal Champion? Both albums are awesome!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:46 pm 
 

oldmetalhead wrote:
Is this just an independent thing because I thought Century Media dropped all Schaffer projects>


Seeing as it was funded via Kickstarter it might be released by Schaffer himself :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:51 pm 
 

That just looks like a slightly cartoonier version of their old covers honestly.

That said, the band sucks and this sounds like a dumb idea. Like yeah I really need to hear that meathead fuckface opining the mysteries and nuance of the lyrics of an album based around a comic book monster, lol.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:53 pm 
 

motorsport wrote:

He knows his current audience consists of virgins browsing /pol/ who'll lap this shit up.


You think channers listen to old American power metal? :lol:
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:54 pm 
 

Zdan wrote:

What is wrong with Eternal Champion? Both albums are awesome!


I'm pretty sure he was referring to the artwork.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:58 pm 
 

Speed Metal Terror wrote:
Zdan wrote:

What is wrong with Eternal Champion? Both albums are awesome!


I'm pretty sure he was referring to the artwork.


Ah! My mistake. In that case I can understand the criticism.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:11 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
That just looks like a slightly cartoonier version of their old covers honestly.

That said, the band sucks and this sounds like a dumb idea. Like yeah I really need to hear that meathead fuckface opining the mysteries and nuance of the lyrics of an album based around a comic book monster, lol.


The actual book is kind of cool, like a collective item kind of. Todd Mcfarlane and Greg Carpullo contributed to some of the art along with a bunch of other artists. I dont think people would give a shit about the story or lyrics.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:12 pm 
 

I have never had a problem with boobs.

It's still a shitty cover art - these "bras" are useless!

Seriously - I just clicked at the link provided by the original post...I mean, what the hell? How useless is this?
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It's still a shitty cover art - these "bras" are useless!


Don't you worry, Schaffer is also selling a version on their merch store with a naked cover - for a $50 USD upcharge. :-P :lol:
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DarthVenom wrote:

Don't you worry, Schaffer is also selling a version on their merch store with a naked cover - for a $50 USD upcharge. :-P :lol:


Nah, you got me wrong there, I'm questioning their functionality, i mean look at that fabric! ;-)
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