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aloof
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:34 am 
 


"This is Jon Oliva speaking to all the people in the Savatage groups first of all I would like to really thank you all for being fans of the band and hanging in there believe me I've been hanging in there too there are many surprises coming up we ain't done yet I wish I could disclose some of them to you but I'll probably get sued or some stupid s*** like that we're working on new material we're getting things together just be a little patient which I know you guys have been for a hundred years I love you all thank you so much for your support it ain't over until it's over Yogi Berra said that great baseball player I'm getting off of this subject we're also working on a new Trans-Siberian Orchestra record and that's going really well we are working on new Sava material all is good I love all you guys thank you so much God bless you all."


I sincerely hope they both materialize :) would make for a nice year...
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Twisted_Psychology
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:06 am 
 

New Savatage material certainly sounds promising. I do wonder what both releases will look like without Paul there to write lyrics and come up with the conceptual stuff. Also wondering whatever happened to the Jon Oliva's Pain album that was rumored some years back but I suppose there's no reason to keep going when the real thing is back.
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Coastliner
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:14 am 
 

I'm not really looking forward to new Savatage music… Of course, I'd check it out but, well… for me the old stuff with Criss (above all "Dungeons", "Mountain King", "Gutter Ballet", most of "Streets" and various early outtakes) was sooo incredibly great that new tracks could probably only disappoint.

If a Martian wanted to know what Metal is, I'd play him the "Before I Hang" demo – the riff, the sweat, the wolf stench, the unhinged hellhound vocals… all questions answered I guess… :D

The last couple of Savatage albums were rather tame in comparison. Not bad but more like a housebroken chihuahua.

On the other hand, the Savatage story could use some nice closure, and I wouldn't mind another restage of "I am the way, I am the light…"
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Kalaratri
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:26 pm 
 

New TSO and new Savatage would be a welcome addition to 2021's slate of great music. Curious to see what direction they go in with the new material. Even though the albums with Criss are nearly untouchable, I still dig a fair amount of the post-Criss albums like Dead Winter Dead and Poets and Madmen.

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aloof
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 6:27 pm 
 

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doomicus
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 7:15 pm 
 

That was a fun as fuck little video ^
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Metal_On_The_Ascendant
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 7:26 pm 
 

Early Savatage is just as essential to metal as Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. That said, does anyone really need a new Savatage album except for nostalgia's sake? Even before they stopped making albums, that latter slew was some really forgettable stuff. Not saying they shouldn't create, but there's been significant shifts and dead members/key figures to really make this a relevant 'comeback'. It's not like we haven't heard from Jon Oliva since his projects are always well received.
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oldmetalhead
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2022 8:55 pm 
 

aloof wrote:

That was killer, is it real or did they just alter the original ?

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colin040
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 3:15 am 
 

Heh, that actually sounds pretty decent.

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Aooga
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:43 am 
 

On one hand you can't really ask for a better swan song than "Morphine Child". On the other hand....new Savatage!

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Benedict Donald
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:51 am 
 

Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote:
does anyone really need a new Savatage album except for nostalgia's sake?


Ab-so-f'ing-lutely!!

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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 11:26 am 
 

Jon Oliva's Pain had some great stuff, so I'd be down for some more Savatage - probably couldn't top their classics but I think Jon is still a strong creative force, could still deliver some good stuff.
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Chaosmonger
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 11:37 am 
 

I'd rather they just keep it as Doctor Butcher but obviously, there's more money in the Savatage name.

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Oblarg
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:43 am 
 

That sounds better than I expected. Much more like early Savatage and much less like the dreck they put out later.
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Twisted_Psychology
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2022 4:48 pm 
 

That sample sounds very promising, Savatage was the type of band to have recurring motifs and such so this sort of Dungeons revisit seems on brand. If it's as good as the best of Jon Oliva's Pain, I'll be happy. I still think Festival was particularly overlooked.
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EndorphinMachine
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2022 11:13 am 
 

After the Wacken-debacle I was not expecting to ever be enthusiastic about new Savatage again, but here we are!
Cool video from Caffery.

Any news on Oliva's health?

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Chaosmonger
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2022 11:36 am 
 

what was the Wacken debacle?

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EndorphinMachine
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2022 11:40 am 
 

Chaosmonger wrote:
what was the Wacken debacle?

The joint-headlining concert with TSO was, in my humble opinion, total shit.

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Chaosmonger
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2022 6:56 pm 
 

how the fuck is that a debacle? lol

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Metallic Shock
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2022 9:48 pm 
 

Well shit, Chris' singing there sounds exactly like Oliva! Promising sample, hope the record ends up being that level of quality throughout. I don't even care if it's all tributes/sequels to old songs, it'll just be fun to have the Mountain King back on his proper throne!

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MetlaNZ
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2022 10:33 pm 
 

Yep, that teaser was awesome, gotta manage my expectations, but they are certainly now elevated!

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