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ChildClownOutlet
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2022 5:18 pm 
 

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https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/metal-musician-sentenced-over-child-porn

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A New Zealand musician has been sentenced to 12 months home detention for owning and sharing child pornography.
Hundreds of photos and videos of child sex abuse were found on Philip Kusabs' phone, and police found he shared at least four videos, one of them nearly two minutes long, with others.

Kusabs, 49, was convicted on nine charges of copying and possessing objectionable material - some of them representative charges involving multiple offences.

He could have been jailed up to 14 years.

The Browns Bay, Auckland man appeared at the North Shore District Court before Judge Simon Maude today, with several support people sitting in the public gallery.

His lawyer Hannah Hellyer said the man's life has changed significantly as a result of the court proceedings.

He has been undergoing rehabilitation that will continue in home detention, and his probation officer has assessed his reoffending risk will "continue to fall with treatment", she said.

An RNZ article in 2014 said Kusabs was a self-taught sound engineer who had worked with a long list of bands, forming the Auckland black metal band Vassafor in the mid-1990s.

Police have asked for the man to be added to the child sex offenders' register, which will be decided in June.

What the fuck? Only 1 year?


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controlledbleeding
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:00 pm 
 

Gravetemplar wrote:
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/metal-musician-sentenced-over-child-porn

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A New Zealand musician has been sentenced to 12 months home detention for owning and sharing child pornography.
Hundreds of photos and videos of child sex abuse were found on Philip Kusabs' phone, and police found he shared at least four videos, one of them nearly two minutes long, with others.

Kusabs, 49, was convicted on nine charges of copying and possessing objectionable material - some of them representative charges involving multiple offences.

He could have been jailed up to 14 years.

The Browns Bay, Auckland man appeared at the North Shore District Court before Judge Simon Maude today, with several support people sitting in the public gallery.

His lawyer Hannah Hellyer said the man's life has changed significantly as a result of the court proceedings.

He has been undergoing rehabilitation that will continue in home detention, and his probation officer has assessed his reoffending risk will "continue to fall with treatment", she said.

An RNZ article in 2014 said Kusabs was a self-taught sound engineer who had worked with a long list of bands, forming the Auckland black metal band Vassafor in the mid-1990s.

Police have asked for the man to be added to the child sex offenders' register, which will be decided in June.

What the fuck? Only 1 year?


Unfortunately that is standard sentencing. I have a family member who is in state police child exploitation in Australia and when i mentioned this to him weeks back he said it will either get off or get a very light sentence. I mean, kids doing drag for adults is being normalised now... its a slippery slope we are on. I feel for the kids and the parents in all of this.

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AxeCapitol
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2022 9:52 pm 
 

controlledbleeding wrote:
Gravetemplar wrote:
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/metal-musician-sentenced-over-child-porn

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A New Zealand musician has been sentenced to 12 months home detention for owning and sharing child pornography.
Hundreds of photos and videos of child sex abuse were found on Philip Kusabs' phone, and police found he shared at least four videos, one of them nearly two minutes long, with others.

Kusabs, 49, was convicted on nine charges of copying and possessing objectionable material - some of them representative charges involving multiple offences.

He could have been jailed up to 14 years.

The Browns Bay, Auckland man appeared at the North Shore District Court before Judge Simon Maude today, with several support people sitting in the public gallery.

His lawyer Hannah Hellyer said the man's life has changed significantly as a result of the court proceedings.

He has been undergoing rehabilitation that will continue in home detention, and his probation officer has assessed his reoffending risk will "continue to fall with treatment", she said.

An RNZ article in 2014 said Kusabs was a self-taught sound engineer who had worked with a long list of bands, forming the Auckland black metal band Vassafor in the mid-1990s.

Police have asked for the man to be added to the child sex offenders' register, which will be decided in June.

What the fuck? Only 1 year?


Unfortunately that is standard sentencing. I have a family member who is in state police child exploitation in Australia and when i mentioned this to him weeks back he said it will either get off or get a very light sentence. I mean, kids doing drag for adults is being normalised now... its a slippery slope we are on. I feel for the kids and the parents in all of this.


Kids doing drag for adults? What???!!

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rarezuzuh
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2022 10:11 pm 
 

What the fuck does any of that have to do with Kusabs?

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controlledbleeding
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2022 11:13 pm 
 

once upon a time the type of crime he committed you would think would result in a very heft sentence no? these types of crimes against children and often now resulting in lighter sentences than ever before... whilst all sorts of "activities" as the aforementioned example are becoming normalised in some parts of society. the bloke should get hard prison in my opinion... home detention? may as well not even bother taking him to court.

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Maggot penetration
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 11:13 am 
 

Maybe some big fellas should recreate his sicko pictures and videos with him in prison and then distribute them for our entertainment

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ChildClownOutlet
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 11:16 am 
 

Uhhhhh
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Gameofmetal
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 11:35 am 
 

controlledbleeding wrote:
once upon a time the type of crime he committed you would think would result in a very heft sentence no? these types of crimes against children and often now resulting in lighter sentences than ever before... whilst all sorts of "activities" as the aforementioned example are becoming normalised in some parts of society. the bloke should get hard prison in my opinion... home detention? may as well not even bother taking him to court.


Is this just referring to the drag queen story time right wing fearmongering stuff? That's such an infrequent activity that is never sexual, relax. It's not a big deal, just people in dramatic attire coming to read books to kids and shit. It's fine, focus more on something that's an actual problem like republican politicians refusing to illegalize child marriages in legislatures across the country.

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 2:12 pm 
 

Him only getting one year is insane.

Plenty of non-violent people go to jail for drugs and get much longer sentences than that.
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controlledbleeding
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 5:20 pm 
 

Gameofmetal wrote:
controlledbleeding wrote:
once upon a time the type of crime he committed you would think would result in a very heft sentence no? these types of crimes against children and often now resulting in lighter sentences than ever before... whilst all sorts of "activities" as the aforementioned example are becoming normalised in some parts of society. the bloke should get hard prison in my opinion... home detention? may as well not even bother taking him to court.


Is this just referring to the drag queen story time right wing fearmongering stuff? That's such an infrequent activity that is never sexual, relax. It's not a big deal, just people in dramatic attire coming to read books to kids and shit. It's fine, focus more on something that's an actual problem like republican politicians refusing to illegalize child marriages in legislatures across the country.

No it isn't fine. But we are free to disagree.

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Hexenmacht46290
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 7:34 pm 
 

Maggot penetration wrote:
Maybe some big fellas should recreate his sicko pictures and videos with him in prison and then distribute them for our entertainment


They shouldn’t, and I wouldn’t want to look at it. But he should get beaten, severely, it’s the only way he’ll learn his lesson.
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LilTito
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 10:57 pm 
 

Yeah i'm sure rehabilition will help him 100% because that's definitely how it works

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Maggot penetration
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2022 4:19 am 
 

Hexenmacht46290 wrote:
Maggot penetration wrote:
Maybe some big fellas should recreate his sicko pictures and videos with him in prison and then distribute them for our entertainment


They shouldn’t, and I wouldn’t want to look at it. But he should get beaten, severely, it’s the only way he’ll learn his lesson.


It doesn't have to be one or the other

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Curious_dead
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:37 am 
 

Gameofmetal wrote:
controlledbleeding wrote:
once upon a time the type of crime he committed you would think would result in a very heft sentence no? these types of crimes against children and often now resulting in lighter sentences than ever before... whilst all sorts of "activities" as the aforementioned example are becoming normalised in some parts of society. the bloke should get hard prison in my opinion... home detention? may as well not even bother taking him to court.


Is this just referring to the drag queen story time right wing fearmongering stuff? That's such an infrequent activity that is never sexual, relax. It's not a big deal, just people in dramatic attire coming to read books to kids and shit. It's fine, focus more on something that's an actual problem like republican politicians refusing to illegalize child marriages in legislatures across the country.


No, it's another thing, something about kids dressing up as drags and dancing to the amusement of adults, if I understood correctly. I think the two events have been mixed together a bit. I don't see anything wrong with the book reading but the dance thing was definitely shady. But as far as I know they're entirely unrelated.

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LycanthropeMoon
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2022 11:01 am 
 

He's likely referring to the Desmond is Amazing situation - the kid danced in drag at a bar and people threw money at him. In my opinion, that shouldn't have happened. However, it was an isolated incident that doesn't seem to have been repeated to my knowledge so using that situation to fearmonger about The Gays™ is bad and stupid. As far as Drag Queen Storytime is concerned... yeah, not a problem at all if the outfits the queens are wearing are appropriate (and they are the vast majority of the time). It's just costumes - that's it.

Anyway, yeah, the sentence was way too light.

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Ex El Ex El Ex
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2022 3:41 pm 
 

People, controlledbleeding is using a cliché bad faith argument where he blows a single isolated incident out of proportion to engage in pearl clutching about how not marginalizing The Gays somehow leads to the proliferation of pedophilia. I implore that you do not take this rhetoric at face value, it's meant to waste your time and legitimize nonsense through your engagement.
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controlledbleeding
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:12 pm 
 

Curious_dead wrote:
Gameofmetal wrote:
controlledbleeding wrote:
once upon a time the type of crime he committed you would think would result in a very heft sentence no? these types of crimes against children and often now resulting in lighter sentences than ever before... whilst all sorts of "activities" as the aforementioned example are becoming normalised in some parts of society. the bloke should get hard prison in my opinion... home detention? may as well not even bother taking him to court.


Is this just referring to the drag queen story time right wing fearmongering stuff? That's such an infrequent activity that is never sexual, relax. It's not a big deal, just people in dramatic attire coming to read books to kids and shit. It's fine, focus more on something that's an actual problem like republican politicians refusing to illegalize child marriages in legislatures across the country.


No, it's another thing, something about kids dressing up as drags and dancing to the amusement of adults, if I understood correctly. I think the two events have been mixed together a bit. I don't see anything wrong with the book reading but the dance thing was definitely shady. But as far as I know they're entirely unrelated.


Correct.

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CreepingDeath16
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:48 am 
 

Well, anyway, a certain Finnish festival will surely aid his rehabilitation by booking Vassafor as soon as possible.
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