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Chaosmonger
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:00 pm 
 

Opus wrote:
At 58 minutes and 14 tracks Somewhere Out In Space is obviously too long. It does have a much better flow than the others though. Lost in the Future is the one I would cut.


agree, plus the stupid interlude tracks. First 7 tracks (minus the interlude of course) are WAY better than anything after though.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:34 pm 
 

MARSDUDE wrote:
I'd love to read along with your prog rock listen-through.

It will be a while tough. It's actually neo-prog. Genesis is the only 70s prog I really like.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:37 pm 
 

Opus wrote:
MARSDUDE wrote:
I'd love to read along with your prog rock listen-through.

It will be a while tough. It's actually neo-prog. Genesis is the only 70s prog I really like.

Being prog it'll take fuckin forever.

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MARSDUDE
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:42 pm 
 

Opus wrote:
MARSDUDE wrote:
I'd love to read along with your prog rock listen-through.

It will be a while tough. It's actually neo-prog. Genesis is the only 70s prog I really like.


Oh. :lol: Still, I'd love to read along. That actually kind of makes it more intriguing.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:38 pm 
 

Grand Magus - Wolf God (2019)
This one will grow horns on your helmet. 5/5

A typical song: Brother of the Storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn0o8Ly95UE
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:21 pm 
 

Grave Digger - Knights of the Cross (1998)
First: I don't like Chris Boltendahl's vocals. Not one bit. And I can't help but think of Scooby Doo when I hear him. His lyrics are extremely clunky. Sounds as if he quickly translated stuff into English. No musicality or poetic flow to the words.
The music is good, great Teutonic riffs and very melodic choruses, but it's too nice. There are no edges, everything is smooth.
What lifts this up a bit is the guitar playing. Great guitar tone, great riffing and tasty soloing. Having had heavier sounding drums would have complemented this greatly. 3.5/5

A typical song: Baphomet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALHJf16HAvw


Grave Digger - Excalibur (1999)
Grave Digger is the perfect background music/noise. Solid metal with no surprises. Nothing that breaks the flow, nothing that makes you go "hey, what was that?!" Nothing at all happens really.
The guitaring is worse here. Some nonsensical shreddy bits and too much use of the worst sounding wah pedal I have ever heard. The drummer is lame. Or at least very tired. I have heard metronomes being more creative than this guy. 3/5

A typical song: Excalibur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlicNcNeQ8o
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:05 am 
 

Grave Digger - The Grave Digger (2001)
Manni taking over! What a facelift!
The riffs bite and scratch. The songwriting is better with dynamics and tension in the songs. There are riffs and fills in abundance throughout. He has shaken life into the drummer, and even made Chris use phrasing in his singing. This was a much needed boost for the band. 4/5

A typical song: The Grave Digger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QjJolTS5kE


Grave Digger - Rheingold (2003)
More of the same here (It's Grave Digger, what did you expect?) There are more room for Manni, and he makes good use of it. Fantastic solos throughout the album. 4/5

A typical song: Rheingold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vagQBs6bb68
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:09 am 
 

^Taste can be a strange thing. It's funny that you'll dig Grave Digger but won't give the time of day to for example Flotsam And Jetsam's first 2 albums, which imo are vastly superior in every aspect.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:38 pm 
 

Different genres, different decades, different continents. What are you even comparing?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:47 am 
 

^They're both metal bands and are they really that different in heaviness?

They both started in the 80's and carried on through.

Different continents? Who cares.

I'm comparing F&J's first 2 albums to Grave Digger in general. I suppose I'm curious by your dislike for F&J's early stuff because it's thrash (tho the vocals in particular give them a crossover appeal to other metal genres) but you'll like Grave Digger despite them being basically rubbish.

Taste it's all in the ears of the beholder.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:59 am 
 

Manni is a vastly superior guitarist, therefor producing vastly superior riffs in a genre I vastly prefer to thrash.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:29 pm 
 

Green Carnation - A Blessing in Disguise (2003)
This is listed in MA as progressive metal/rock, but it doesn't sound like any prog I have heard. It's like they have made pop arrangements of metal songs. Although there are the occasional distorted guitar and even double bass it doesn't sound very metal. Soundwise I find it a bit like Tears for Fears. Whatever you want to call this it's different, well made and exciting.
For anyone who is open to different genres. 5/5

A song: As Life Flows By
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9y11kMzzoM
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:06 pm 
 

Green Carnation - The Quiet Offspring (2005)
This one is a bit heavier with more guitars, but the style is still the same. 5/5

A typical song: Purple Door, Pitch Black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCfyabBqpCM


Green Carnation - Acoustic Verses (2006)
This is an experiment that I don't think succeeded. Every song is mellow, and it's like every song is the last song of an album. There's no forward motion either in the songs themselves or the album. 3/5

A typical song: Alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmH8hioAKsc
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:27 am 
 

Opus wrote:
I decided to start up the project "listening to all my cds in alphabetical order". Should be able to do at least on a day while at work.


Great idea! Even though I'm quoting a post from April of last year, I hope you're still going strong :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:10 pm 
 

Thanks Greg! As you can see I'm still going.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:11 pm 
 

Griffin - Lifeforce (2005)
The Norwegian Griffin.
Here's another genre I really like: hard rock leaning more towards AOR than rock n' roll. It's just uncomplicated and uplifting.
This band is on the archives since they are straddling the line. The style is around Dokken and Jake E Lee-era Ozzy. 4/5

A typical song: Lifeforce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTEycPWA0PA
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:26 pm 
 

Eternal Unity wrote:
Opus wrote:
I decided to start up the project "listening to all my cds in alphabetical order". Should be able to do at least on a day while at work.


Great idea! Even though I'm quoting a post from April of last year, I hope you're still going strong :)

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Agreed! The thread actually inspired me to take a look at my own collection and listen to stuff I hadn't heard in a decade.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:43 pm 
 

Griftegård - Solemn Sacred Severe (2009)
Very slow. Very emotional. Very good. 4/5

A typical song: I Refuse These Ashes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox3dcZw8Qxk
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:39 pm 
 

Guillotine - Under the Guillotine (1997)
One-dimensional thrash from Fredrik Mannberg and Nils Eriksson from Nocturnal Rites.
Maybe thrash fanatics can find some enjoyment in this. I don't. At least it's an easy listening, just one fast riff after another. 2/5

A typical song: Executioner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUeISwgCRAM
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:01 am 
 

I've been looking for that Guillotine album for ages but never stumbled across it in the wild. I'm sure I could track it down if I really tried, but I've never even really seen it at a bistro I've ordered from.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:08 am 
 

Spiner202 wrote:
... I've never even really seen it at a bistro I've ordered from.

Maybe you should try a record shop instead?

I probably got it off Ebay.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:09 am 
 

Hallowed - Forgotten People (2003)
Irish band playing traditional British heavy metal. They have riffs and choruses and all the necessary ingredients, but it's completely unengaging. 2/5

A typical song: Feed the Machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWluHdjf-oU
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:33 am 
 

Hammerfall - Legacy of Kings (1998)
This album is simply great! Great riffing and, above all, great drumming! For me the drumming can make or break an album almost as much as the vocals. And the drumming here makes this a winner.
What I don't like about Hammerfall is Can's voice. As far as technique goes he's pretty much flawless, but there's something about his timbre that just rubs me the wrong way. Come to think of it, the same can be said about Elmgren's soloing. He's playing all the right notes and he's got the technique of your everyday guitar hero but it never really takes off.
Anyways, great songs throughout (just skip that last ballad). 4.5/5

A typical song with typically great drumming: Heeding the Call
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWxc2wFefV0
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:42 am 
 

Hawaii - The Natives are Restless (1985)
Every 16-year old Kiss fan with a guitar wrote songs like these in 1983. Luckily not all of them got a record deal.
Marty should have gotten rid of these guys and started a proper band. Oh wait, he did. 1/5

A typical song: Proud To Be Loud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuSCb2u_UJo
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:45 am 
 

Listen to One Nation Underground. It kills The Natives are Restless.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:41 pm 
 

rawsewage wrote:
Listen to One Nation Underground. It kills The Natives are Restless.

Will do, but then again, any album by anyone kills The Natives are Restless.
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Harem Scarem - Harem Scarem (1991)
More of the hard rock/AOR I love.
Great vocals, great guitar playing, probably great bassist and drummer too, but you can't tell. They are just there keeping time as it should be.
The uplifting melodies and catch choruses just makes me happy when it's done right, like it is here. 5/5

And they have their metal credentials, since the singer, the drummer and the guitarist are on M-A for having been in metal bands.

A typical song: All Over Again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z50luaGeVYc
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:00 pm 
 

Heavenly - Dust to Dust (2004)
This sounds like Kai Hansen fronting Angra with Tobi Sammet writing the songs.
If you miss Edguy's power metal period, this is where you go. 4.5/5

A typical song:Lust for Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwwnfWgV_5U
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Heavenly - Virus (2006)
A bit more grandiose and denser and some symphonic feel on this album. But the best part is the very dynamic song writing, making the songs feel longer than they are (in a good way) despite none being more than six minutes long. 4.5/5

A typical song: Virus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4LEIOpJ5yQ
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Opus wrote:
Heavenly - Virus (2006)
A bit more grandiose and denser and some symphonic feel on this album. But the best part is the very dynamic song writing, making the songs feel longer than they are (in a good way) despite none being more than six minutes long.

A typical song: Virus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4LEIOpJ5yQ


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:42 pm 
 

Opus wrote:
Harem Scarem - Harem Scarem (1991)
More of the hard rock/AOR I love.
Great vocals, great guitar playing, probably great bassist and drummer too, but you can't tell. They are just there keeping time as it should be.
The uplifting melodies and catch choruses just makes me happy when it's done right, like it is here. 5/5

And they have their metal credentials, since the singer, the drummer and the guitarist are on M-A for having been in metal bands.

A typical song: All Over Again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z50luaGeVYc


Didn't think I'd see them pop up on here but Harem Sacrem is one of my favorite bands. S/T album is very good though I do rank it towards the bottom of their discography personally. My top 3 Harem Scarem albums would be United, Change The World and Mood Swings.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:15 pm 
 

tobi is an animal wrote:
Didn't think I'd see them pop up on here but Harem Sacrem is one of my favorite bands. S/T album is very good though I do rank it towards the bottom of their discography personally. My top 3 Harem Scarem albums would be United, Change The World and Mood Swings.


I definitively need to look into more Harem Scarem albums.
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DoomMetalAlchemist wrote:
You didn't give it a rating.

Right. Although it might be just a smidge better than Dust to Dust, the lack of individuality makes it not quite reach top score. 4.5/5
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Heavy Load - Death or Glory (1982)
I can't understand why not all metal albums have this guitar sound. Gibson in to a Marshall, full volume. Tasty!
It amazes me how with many of these old albums each song has it's own strong character, yet have the band's signature sound. I think that's what's lacking with many bands today.
Anyway, every track is fantastic here (on the original version, the extra tracks on the re-issues are no good), but a bit too much off key singing. 4/5

A typical song: Heavy Metal Angels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiUE9SQMH5s
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:27 pm 
 

Heed - The Call (2005)
No matter how you look at it, this is a huge disappointment. You get scratching, screamo vocals, chugs, worthless choruses, Daniel Heiman not singing in Lost Horizon and oddly enough, nice guitar solos. 1/5

A typical song: Last Drop of Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5xtqxy_jiM
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Helker - Somewhere in the Circle (2013)
Plain heavy metal with Argentina's #1 Dio impersonator.
Good songs, good playing, a bit lackig in the riff department. 3.5/5

A typical song: No Chance to Be Reborn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D674JznAYZA
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:50 pm 
 

Hell - Human Remains(2011)
I love this band so much. I love the story of the "reunion" and I love the story about how they found the singer, who is awesome btw.
Someone was asking for progressive NWOBHM-bands in another thread, and I think this is as close to that as you can get. There's also some really evil riffs here. I guess you could put Hell in a sub-genre of their own: black/progressive NWOBHM. 5/5

A typical song: On Earth as It Is in Hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpkuYxyYM2A


Hell - Curse & Chapter (2013)
This one is (even) more theatrical.
David Bower is such an amazing frontman, both in the studio and live. Why are there no live DVDs from Hell? I would buy them all. 5/5

A typical song: The Age of Nefarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbMUNT-JpzI
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Heed - The Call (2005)
No matter how you look at it, this is a huge disappointment. You get scratching, screamo vocals, chugs, worthless choruses, Daniel Heiman not singing in Lost Horizon and oddly enough, nice guitar solos. 1/5

A typical song: Last Drop of Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5xtqxy_jiM


Always thought this was a fucking great album.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:51 pm 
 

I don't hear it. Have you heard the band he sang in after this, Lavett? Whiny radio rock played by tattooed tough guys. This is half way there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsgPQ7uePjQ
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:42 pm 
 

Hellfire - Requiem for My Bride (2005)
Polish power/thrash. They are heavily inspirerd by King Diamond on this concept album, and like with King Diamond, the vocals are odd. In this case, I don't like them. He's got a good voice and a great range, reminding a bit of a young Warrel Dane, but his singing style is just too weird. It's some sort of barking sprechgesang, where he spits out the words one after the other. No phrasing or real melodies.
The playing is solid though. 3.5/5

A typical song: Needle Dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LkchX4AoIQ
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