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AlchemicalVortex
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:11 pm 
 

First time poster. If there is some other place here where this fits better, please let me know.

I´m having problem identifying an early cd pressing of Burzum anti-mosh 002.
I bought it in 1993, new, and it has the Varg adress on the BACK cover, but NOT in the front booklet. I have found non that match on discogs (official or unofficial), and I´ve double-trippel-checked... Discogs is the only arena I know of for clues on identification. I´ve posted in the forum, and someone adviced me to post here as well.
Matrix runout: DURECO [01] ANTIMOSH 002
It´s very unlikely that this is a bootleg, the quality is official grade, way too good for a bootleg back in those days. Besides, it was bought in a regular main-stream record shop (with an excellent metal section!), which would not have sold any bootlegs. It was bought in sweden, in case that has any bearing.
So, anyone knows of a version like mine, or seen this combination of adress/not adress before?
I´m new to the practise of identifieing records, so any tip on how do correctly identify this one is welcome!
And further:
If I can´t find any version with your help, I´m hypthesizing that during first pressing, they ran out of front folders at the printers before the back covers were out too, and were left with a stack of half-finished cd´s. When the new folders arrived, they just finished those before starting to make ”clean” second pressings. It doesn´t seem like an outlandish idea to me, what do you say?

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MetlaNZ
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:35 am 
 

^That's one possible explanation, another would be that the booklets of a 1st and 2nd press were simply mixed up at the store, easy to do, in fact it's probably the most likely reason.
If there were mixed copies as you've suggested then I would've thought it would've been noted by someone on discogs by now.
Unfortunately (or fortunately for you) both sides of the disc itself from what I can tell are identical, so it's only the booklet that's holding it back from being a complete 1st press, so I wonder if that means it's worth half way between a 1st and 2nd press?
Seeing what even the 2nd press is worth is slightly depressing for me, as it's another one I had back in the day that didn't survive the end of the 90's great purge. I didn't have any idea back then to the potential future value of CD's.
Oh well, whatever, nevermind. It's the enjoyment of the music that matters the most.

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dike
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:25 pm 
 

You could the record label or Varg himself and see if they answer. You'd be surprised at how many artists actually do. I predict that this question might be too specific but its worth a shot.

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DecemberSoul
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:59 pm 
 

Derailing somewhat but...I was so hoping I'd finally see solid evidence for the existence of the Burzum bootleg CD "A blaze in the northern sky...no less" (Arverne Records??)...
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Helvede
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:35 pm 
 

I think your own suggested scenario is most likely to be the case. Nothing uncommon in having a cd from one pressing plant, then using the paper from another because the first plant ran out. Or similar situation. An Iron Maiden collector told me this is very often the case with standard IM pressings from the 80's. UK vinyl, Dutch sleeve, German innersleeve etc.

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DeadKid
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:00 pm 
 

MetlaNZ wrote:
^That's one possible explanation, another would be that the booklets of a 1st and 2nd press were simply mixed up at the store, easy to do, in fact it's probably the most likely reason.

Yeah, something like this happened to me once. I picked out the original version of a CD with an extra track to buy, but the disc the store had put in it seemed to be a reissue that was one track short. It could've gotten mixed up any time in a span of 7+ years. Not important to me in the end as it wasn't a rare item though.
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MetlaNZ
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:03 pm 
 

DeadKid wrote:
MetlaNZ wrote:
^That's one possible explanation, another would be that the booklets of a 1st and 2nd press were simply mixed up at the store, easy to do, in fact it's probably the most likely reason.

Yeah, something like this happened to me once. I picked out the original version of a CD with an extra track to buy, but the disc the store had put in it seemed to be a reissue that was one track short. It could've gotten mixed up any time in a span of 7+ years. Not important to me in the end as it wasn't a rare item though.

I had that happen too. Got a special edition CD with extra tracks from a local store, but got home and discovered they had put the standard edition disc in the case. Simply went back and exchanged it.
Hell, on the subject of fuck up's, I once got a new sealed Manilla Road Metal/Inasion 2CD digipak and when I opened it up discovered that it had 2 Count Raven CDs inside!
As for the Burzum issue, I guess we may never know the answer. Either way there's no other examples of this happening with this album so I still believe it was a mix-up at the store, who probably had a 1st and 2nd edition sitting on the shelf as they were released quite closely in time and got the covers switched, or who knows, they may have matched up 2 separately damaged items to make one good one.

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