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thesilentenigma
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:35 am 
 

Waste of time, everyone should already own the classic Monstrosity's.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:29 am 
 

If they do rerecord it I have negative interest in what will ultimately be an abomination against a classic album.

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thesilentenigma
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:58 am 
 

Has a re-recording ever gone well? I can't think of any.
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androdion
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:07 am 
 

thesilentenigma wrote:
Has a re-recording ever gone well? I can't think of any.

Only one I can think of are those Hypocrisy songs from the first two albums with Peter singing, because Peter vs Masse... :D Still, those are loose songs on a compilation and not an entire album rerecorded.

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Rerecording Imperial Doom sounds like an awful idea. That album is the product of an era and that magic can't be recaptured, even if they would somehow be able to get the original line-up together for it. But I get it, Impaled did the same with their debut because Deathvomit also pulled a similar stunt.

I understand bands doing this in order for their back catalogue to be available again, but it's never going to be or sound the same. I can also understand the fan's point of view where paying a huge amount of money for a 25-30 year old disc that's as it is can also be a bummer. Labels will be labels I guess... Deathvomit went down under and took all the recording licenses with them. I guess that if they licensed any of it they'd have old bills to suck that money up, probably I don't really know but I can take a guess. As for major labels like NB it's the old chat of "our way or the highway", and honestly speaking it's a licensing nightmare and very costly, but I can also remember an interview not long ago where Lee Harrison said that he didn't really want to contact everyone involved in the debut because of the royalties. Maybe this is more than "NB is the devil" and there's some bad blood all around, I couldn't say for sure. One thing is certain, when someone in a band can't make an effort for it it most certainly won't happen (see Nuclear Assault's Survive).
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true_death
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:38 am 
 

thesilentenigma wrote:
Has a re-recording ever gone well? I can't think of any.


Dan Swano's band Nightingale (progressive hard rock/metal) has the album Nightfall Overture, which was apparently intended as a "best of" album celebrating their 10 year anniversary and consisting mostly of re-recordings of tracks from the first four Nightingale albums, but it ended up becoming by far their most popular and iconic album, and generally seen as their best work. I personally think that every single track on there completely and totally annihilates the original in every conceivable fashion.

For reference, here the original, 1995 version of the title track.

And here is the 2005 re-recording from "Nightfall Overture".
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:21 pm 
 

I'd like to clarify there's no confirmation right now that "Imperial Doom" will definitely be rerecorded. Nothing as far as a timeline or any other details, so we might be putting the cart before the horse here, myself included.

That seems way further down on the list of priorities compared to the reissues, touring for "The Passage of Existence," and even another album - Lee's already working on at least four new songs and there were others written they ran out of time to record.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:06 pm 
 

true_death wrote:
thesilentenigma wrote:
Has a re-recording ever gone well? I can't think of any.


Dan Swano's band Nightingale (progressive hard rock/metal) has the album Nightfall Overture, which was apparently intended as a "best of" album celebrating their 10 year anniversary and consisting mostly of re-recordings of tracks from the first four Nightingale albums, but it ended up becoming by far their most popular and iconic album, and generally seen as their best work. I personally think that every single track on there completely and totally annihilates the original in every conceivable fashion.

For reference, here the original, 1995 version of the title track.

And here is the 2005 re-recording from "Nightfall Overture".


Agreed. That album rules from start to finish and I'd easily say it's their best release, and yes all the re-recordings are better than the originals.

Another examples is Alcest - Le Secret. The re-recorded tracks completely annihilate the originals.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:45 am 
 

Out on Vic Records:

Sickness - Plague: Ornaments of Mutilation and More CD (complete discography)
Sickness sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_o986flU68

Destruction - Bestial Invasion of Hell CD
Infected - Dark Century CD
Disciples of Power - Ominous Prophecy CD
Outrage - 1985 Demo(n)s CD
Gutwrench - The Art of Mutilation CD (demos + bonustracks)


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DoomMetalAlchemist
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:14 am 
 

thesilentenigma wrote:
Has a re-recording ever gone well? I can't think of any.


Pagan Altar's re-recordings went pretty swimmingly... though virtually no one outside of the band heard the originals anyway... :-D
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:24 am 
 

...and Oceans

Mare_Liberum (1998) Tape re-release:
https://thoseopposedrecords.bandcamp.co ... re-liberum

And for the sake of completion since they were released by the same label (in 2016, though)

The Dynamic Gallery of Thoughts (1998) Vinyl re-release:
https://thoseopposedrecords.bandcamp.co ... f-thoughts

The Symmetry of I, the Circle of O (1999) Vinyl re-release:
https://thoseopposedrecords.bandcamp.co ... ircle-of-o
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:29 pm 
 

PaganiusI wrote:


Really? I think the demo had a very unique atmosphere with the guitars and synths of the original buried underneath the caveman recording that not many kvlt bands have. The first two albums have a flawless mix too... can't understand why they were remastered as well
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:19 am 
 

I got my eyes on those The Nuclear Blast Recordings box set of Sinster and Gorefest.

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Pestbesmittad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:13 am 
 

Infester - "To the Depths, in Degradation/Darkness Unveiled" DCD out now on Krucyator Productions.

https://krucyator.bandcamp.com/album/to ... s-unveiled

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:03 am 
 

Pestbesmittad wrote:
Infester - "To the Depths, in Degradation/Darkness Unveiled" DCD out now on Krucyator Productions.

https://krucyator.bandcamp.com/album/to ... s-unveiled



Might have to get this. I was pretty disappointed by the Martyrdoom reissue if I'm honest...they fucked up the album art and didn't even bother to include lyrics which is a big part of Infester's appeal, if you ask me. I've also never heard the demo, so getting that on a bonus disc might be worthwhile.

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I got my eyes on those The Nuclear Blast Recordings box set of Sinster and Gorefest.


The Sinister one leaves out their most popular albums Cross the Styx and Diabolical Summoning, and the Gorefest one leaves out one of their best albums Rise to Ruin...they also made one for Benediction which leaves out The Dreams You Dread (though I'm less concerned about that one as the album sucks)...it's pretty weird since it's billed as "the Nuclear Blast years".
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:27 am 
 

true_death wrote:
Pestbesmittad wrote:
Infester - "To the Depths, in Degradation/Darkness Unveiled" DCD out now on Krucyator Productions.

https://krucyator.bandcamp.com/album/to ... s-unveiled



Might have to get this. I was pretty disappointed by the Martyrdoom reissue if I'm honest...they fucked up the album art and didn't even bother to include lyrics which is a big part of Infester's appeal, if you ask me. I've also never heard the demo, so getting that on a bonus disc might be worthwhile.

ThrashAD720 wrote:
I got my eyes on those The Nuclear Blast Recordings box set of Sinster and Gorefest.


The Sinister one leaves out their most popular albums Cross the Styx and Diabolical Summoning, and the Gorefest one leaves out one of their best albums Rise to Ruin...they also made one for Benediction which leaves out The Dreams You Dread (though I'm less concerned about that one as the album sucks)...it's pretty weird since it's billed as "the Nuclear Blast years".


Yea i know this info already so i still got to pick up Cross the Styx and Diabolical Summoning and then Sinster boxset. For Gorefest its the boxset and the last album.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:02 pm 
 

Are these new Running Wild reissues (in digipacks) worth bying?

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ThanatosUK
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:23 pm 
 

I haven't picked up any of the Running Wild ones yet, but in my experience the Noise reissues are well worth getting.

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Required Fields
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:25 pm 
 

SkullFracturingNightmare wrote:
androdion wrote:
The band's FB page has a post from January stating that they're working on the booklet redesign. But then again there's an earlier post stating that the reissues "are coming out in January 2017", so I'd take everything in that camp with a pinch of salt.

Yeah I was wondering what the hell was going on with that, since I too read that it was supposed to be out last year.

Usually Vic Records delivers at some point, so I'll try to remain patient.


Well, well, well...

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Just a month and a half of waiting, and Fatal Exposure will finally be available again. Zero chance I won't be getting it.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:03 pm 
 

Vic Records seems to be coming out with a lot of great stuff right now, but I'm still about a year behind on all the Dark Symphonies stuff. I've got the Torr, Hades, Betrayer, Formicide, and Subsidence albums queued up at Dark Descent but can't pull the trigger. I need another one of their sales to make it affordable.
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androdion
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:37 pm 
 

Required Fields wrote:
Well, well, well...

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Just a month and a half of waiting, and Fatal Exposure will finally be available again. Zero chance I won't be getting it.

Thanks for the info mate! :thumbsup:

I just hope the remastering isn't like on the Phlebotomized material, as I believe it was also that Palms dude who did those, since it isn't that good to begin with. Oh well I'll buy it anyway because Fatal Exposure... :lol:

Does anyone know how the demos sound?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:32 pm 
 

Fuck yeah, Christmas is coming two weeks early. Vic's definitely becoming a favorite label of mine. Them, High Roller, and Dark Symphonies know exactly the shit we want to see reissued.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:43 am 
 

More Vic madness: Pre-orders for Sacrosanct's "Truth Is What Is" and "Recesses for the Depraved" (both with bonus tracks) up now. Out 16.11. "Tragic Intense" will be released later.

Truth is What Is: http://vicrecords.com/shop/index.php?id ... eWBPMIfvsw


Recesses: http://vicrecords.com/shop/index.php?id ... 00LfdaZjGg

In order to see the reissue tracklists: https://www.rockawaits.com/

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ThrashAD720
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:17 pm 
 

rooster85 wrote:
Are these new Running Wild reissues (in digipacks) worth bying?


Yes they are worth picking up cause i have almost all of them except the first two.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:17 pm 
 

Out now!

Necrophobic - "Satanic Prophecies" 5-Digi-CD Box

Includes:
The Nocturnal Silence Digi-CD
Darkside Digi-CD
The Third Antichrist Digi-CD
Bloodhymns Digi-CD
Satanic Blasphemies Digi-CD (Boxset exclusive)

https://hammerheartstore.com/products/n ... 5-digi-cds

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:01 pm 
 

I realize I'm over a decade late to this, but what in the world was Mustaine thinking when he rerecorded the vocals for Five Magics? He sounds like he took Valium before recording.

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DoomMetalAlchemist
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:03 pm 
 

Now this is a treat for me: Emerald (USA) - Armed For Battle EP reissue with bonus tracks on No Remorse Records coming in December.

http://label.noremorse.gr/upcoming-releases/item/301-emerald-armed-for-battle-cd-/-lp-/-box-set

Two things I'm bummed about though:

1. Born To Die is not included among the bonus tracks
2. If I want to get a t-shirt, I have to get the CD / LP box set. I don't have a record player, and I have no interest in getting one.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:37 am 
 

Death - "The Sound of Perseverance" 3LP and DCD:

https://hammerheartstore.com/products/c ... 4SZc3yUlSA

https://hammerheartstore.com/products/d ... rance-2-cd

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Lord_Jotun
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:29 am 
 

Are those extra tracks and early demos the same that were included in the Relapse 2 and 3 cd reissues not too many years ago? I assume there couldn't realistically be too many left around after those.
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