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Gravetemplar
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:29 am 
 

Some of you may know Old Man Gloom are releasing their new album Seminar VIII: Light Of Meaning in May: https://profoundlorerecords.bandcamp.co ... of-meaning

Well, they just released a second album out of nowhere, Seminar IX: Darkness Of Being: https://profoundlorerecords.bandcamp.co ... s-of-being

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As we're all locked down, and uncertain about what will shake out of all this bonkers shit, we at Old Man Gloom have decided to reverse Gloom you all. What is a reverse Gloom? Well, it's pretty simple. Instead of playing a trick on everyone, we're going to play a trick on ourselves, and unfortunately for Profound Lore, our record label.

Here's what was GOING to happen....We made two records. I know, it's not a surprise, we usually do. Over the course of recording, we had so many plans with how to release it. There was the -let everyone preorder one record, then send them the other one without notice and release the other in stores only. There was - releasing one, then dropping the other 2 days later without any announcement at all. There was the idea that Aaron and I would make an entirely different record without the other guys knowing and releasing that on the same day to fool our own band. Eventually we settled on doing all the announcements for Seminar VIII: Light of Meaning, and then a week before its release, drop Seminar IX: Darkness of Being without announcement. A sort of PRE Glooming, if you will. It would've been a pleasant surprise for everyone in the lead up to the LoM release, and we get our trick.

Well, since a few weeks ago when we made this plan, the world has drastically changed. We're all confined to our cities, towns, and mostly our homes right now. Most of us can't make a living, all of us in Gloom included, and we're all just sitting and waiting for the tides to turn. Last week we spoke together and wondered if we could just send ā€œDarkness of Being" out into the world now, to help bring a little light into this situational seclusion. All of us knew one sticking point could be Profound Lore, because our dear friend Chris is running a label, and not everyone exists like Old Man Gloom, most people have a plan and want to succeed on practical terms. We don't. We just want to make each other laugh. It should have been very unsurprising that Chris was instantaneously IN for this plan. He's never said NO to us, he's been nothing but supportive of our bullshit from day one.

So here it is, truly our gift to you, and the whole world. Please enjoy what we've had an amazing time making. These records have taken the simple act of being a band and transcended into a bonding and healing process I never thought music or specifically Old Man Gloom could be. Almost every song has elements of our last two years without Caleb, and even the songs that aren't directly related to him are embedded with the emotion and struggle for closure and healing that we're all going to be in for a long time. This pandemic we're all living through is creating so much distance between all of us. This is our way of bringing us all a little closer.

Please share, and listen, and talk, and respond. Tell us you love it, tell us you think it sucks, tell your friends that you like our old shit more, or that you wish it was an Old Man's Child record. We don't care, just put yourselves into the world through this.

We also ask that you preorder physical copies, or pay for digital in some way, if you can. Not for us, but for Profound Lore, who are always onboard to go against record label practicality to support our silliness, and whom we want to not lose money because of this baloney we cooked up.

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Steve, Nate, Santos, Aaron

"Time to shake our world, prepare to live"
Steve Brodsky
Final Defeat
Seminar VIII: Light of Meaning


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Prairieshadow
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:39 am 
 

Listening now. I've gotta admit, some of those other pranks they considered would've been pretty funny. At first when I saw the email I was confused because the album title seemed different from what I had just preordered. Should've known...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:01 pm 
 

One day I have to get around to deleting all the ambient tracks from my mp3s of their records. I might want to listen to OMG again then.. one way in which my mp3s are better than my CDs.

Seriously though, as much as I enjoy their heavy music, the albums are incredibly torturous to listen to in a sitting. Are there many people who enjoy listening to alternating heavy and ambient songs like that? I find it annoying af. I wish they'd write their material together more often into single, variegated songs.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:09 am 
 

SculptedCold wrote:
One day I have to get around to deleting all the ambient tracks from my mp3s of their records. I might want to listen to OMG again then.. one way in which my mp3s are better than my CDs.

Seriously though, as much as I enjoy their heavy music, the albums are incredibly torturous to listen to in a sitting. Are there many people who enjoy listening to alternating heavy and ambient songs like that? I find it annoying af. I wish they'd write their material together more often into single, variegated songs.

I certainly agree with this and it's very true of their older albums. My biggest complaint with Christmas is how short and not fleshed out the heavy tracks are--they're fucking awesome for like 45 sec. Then it's 10 min ambient drone.

However, you should check out both Ape of God albums. None of that ambient nonsense on either one. Really their best stuff in my opinion. I can't remember for sure, but I think NO was also much better in that regard.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:06 am 
 

jthompson wrote:
SculptedCold wrote:
One day I have to get around to deleting all the ambient tracks from my mp3s of their records. I might want to listen to OMG again then.. one way in which my mp3s are better than my CDs.

Seriously though, as much as I enjoy their heavy music, the albums are incredibly torturous to listen to in a sitting. Are there many people who enjoy listening to alternating heavy and ambient songs like that? I find it annoying af. I wish they'd write their material together more often into single, variegated songs.

I certainly agree with this and it's very true of their older albums. My biggest complaint with Christmas is how short and not fleshed out the heavy tracks are--they're fucking awesome for like 45 sec. Then it's 10 min ambient drone.

However, you should check out both Ape of God albums. None of that ambient nonsense on either one. Really their best stuff in my opinion. I can't remember for sure, but I think NO was also much better in that regard.

Yes, both The Ape of God albums are a lot more straight forward and have a lot less drone parts. NO still had some drone but it's not as predominant as in their older stuff.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:07 pm 
 

Thanks for the reccs, and refreshing my memory! I have NO on CD too but it's been so long since i've listened i'd forgotten it goes for the throat more. Will have to re-spin that at least.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 5:11 am 
 

Both albums are finally out and I'm not impressed. They're a bit of a mess. Some parts are pretty cool but as a whole I'm not sure any of the albums really work.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 7:05 am 
 

I'm inclined to agree. I think generally I like both albums, but both have weak spots. At this point I wish they would've released one really solid album instead. It seems like it's more like one album's worth of material. Overall I think I prefer IX, but I might like a couple individual songs on VIII more.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 9:06 am 
 

I really like IX and have had it on fairly constant rotation since it's release. Admittedly there is about 5 or 6 minutes of aimless noise/tape loops etc. that takes place at the beginning and end of the songs throughout the album and really could have been left out but it's something I'm not surprised to hear from those guys really since they've always had some of that (I figure it's Aaron Turner with his penchant for weird drone/noise soundscapes like his project House of Low Culture). As for the first three minutes of nothingness on Canto De Santos which is the worst offender, I'm just skipping that part nowadays. I find the actual songs on a really high level with stuff like Heel to Toe, In Your Name & Love is Bravery being among my favourite cuts from their catalog now.

In particular Love is Bravery is something I was really excited to hear from them. I like the increased presence of Nate Newton's vocals and also Stephen Brodsky's contributions and having a very inspiring and hopeful song like that on a sludgey/post-metal record is a surprising but pretty wonderful move. Particularly since the band have been dealing with the loss of their friend and bandmate Caleb Scofield which I feel puts that in perspective. Death Rhymes is another unusual move for them but I think it provides a nice bit of chilled breathing space and is a great dark folk song in its own right.

I'm waiting till the bandcamp fee waive day on June the 5th to get Seminar VIII but I'm hoping it will be at least as good as IX and I'm excited to hear what they've done with Caleb's contributions to the record.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 11:08 pm 
 

Calling You Home is a particular standout on VIII for me. It feels a bit like the companion to Death Rhymes, but packs a little more punch sonically. Possibly the most powerful song on either album.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:00 pm 
 

I finally listened to Light of Meaning and unfortunately I have to agree that that album is a bit of a mess. Calling You Home was fantastic, I agree, and I really liked By Love All Is Healed (there's a nice use of the returning riff from Procession of the Wounded in it) as well but there is far too much noise in the rest of the album for the other good sections to feel consistent at all. I'm hoping that it will grow on me with more listens but overall I definitely prefer Darkness of Being and feel that they could have just trimmed both albums down to maybe 35-40 minutes each by cutting most of the aimless noise sections that begin and end many of the songs and been left with two beast albums.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:14 am 
 

Light of Meaning has actually grown on me a lot and I've been listening to it pretty heavily. There is still more noise on it than I want, but for some reason I'm finding it more tolerable than that present on IX. Possibly it's mostly on the strength of the final two tracks that I'm enjoying it so much--probably my two favorites from both albums. I'm finding them stuck in my head for much of the day--not that I'm complaining. Just feels really cathartic.

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