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Bingewolf
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:59 pm 
 

Pretty cool development for fans of Burzum or the Norwegian BM scene... The person behind the "Burzum Museum" Facebook page uncovered a tape with previously unreleased material from Burzum and Uruk-Hai.

I'm really impressed with this discovery... And the material is solid! Very cool to hear the origins of one of the most notorious BM musicians of all-time.

It shouldn't have to be said, but I do not support Varg or his views... this is just a cool discovery for all us music nerds!

Youtube: show

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raumr
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:08 pm 
 

This seems legit. The uploader claims to have received the tape from the leader of Misanthropy Records, who again says she got it from Varg himself. The only confirmation needed is Varg leaving a comment below the video.

Any Burzum fan will recognize several of these riffs and melodies. :)

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DividerOfShadows
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:14 pm 
 

Pretty nice. That final track and the track before it are beautiful.
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Roc
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:51 pm 
 

I listened to this a few times today and really enjoyed it. i will definitely listen to it more. It's awesome to get to hear this piece of second wave black metal history. Varg just playing his guitar. Hearing the origins of later Burzum songs. Really good stuff.
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theconquerorwurm
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:52 pm 
 

Bingewolf wrote:
It shouldn't have to be said


Absolutely correct. Stoked this made it online, I've listened a couple times and it's good. I'll echo what others are saying, it's awesome to see Burzum coming together as it were.

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Gunslinger21
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:44 pm 
 

Its a very cool tape, props to whoever dug it up and posted it online for all of us to share. Its a shame he doesn't write that kind of music anymore.

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HaPoStaPu
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:41 am 
 

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

Compare to his recent stuff
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E9EYsG3IAtg

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DecemberSoul
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:18 pm 
 

A quick word on the uploaders anti-bootlegging measures: Neither the lowered sound quality nor the added ding-dings would and could deter me from thoroughly enjoying the music. There's considerably worse-sounding material in the underworld that I cherish.
That being said, these particular recordings are more interesting due to their obscurity than their actual artistic value.
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Vigintiseptem
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:01 am 
 

DecemberSoul wrote:
A quick word on the uploaders anti-bootlegging measures: Neither the lowered sound quality nor the added ding-dings would and could deter me from thoroughly enjoying the music.

The ding-ding sounds like a cymbal and it doesn't deter the ambient songs in the least. This will be bootlegged to death.

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Wyrmbane
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:35 am 
 

On a related note - did anyone finally get to hear the real 1989 Mayhem rehearsal (not the video one, which might be from 1990), that an Italian guy/'zine editor from back in the day had a copy of?

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Sick6Six
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:42 pm 
 

I swear I remember downloading this unreleased material like 20 years ago, or is this new unreleased material aside from what was out there before?

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ADreamOfWolves
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:24 pm 
 

"Hoddmimisholt" is the only highlight here for me. Repetitive and simple, but terrific atmosphere.

I find the whole "let me purposely make the quality shitty and add an annoying ding-ding sound effect so bootleggers aren't interested in this" argument to be completely stupid. Bootleggers are still going to bootleg it regardless of the quality and regardless of what sound effect he adds in every few minutes. So, the uploader made the listening experience more annoying for no point whatsoever.

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raumr
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:48 pm 
 

According to the uploader, this is previously unreleased. It was one cassette tape sent from Varg in prison to the leader of Misanthropy Records, who then gave it to the uploader.

My skepticism would vanish if Varg himself confirmed this in a comment under the video, but this seems legit to me. If you read the Burzum.org page, Varg writes that Uruk-Hai started as a 3 piece with a bassist and a drummer, but when Varg joined Old Funeral, it ended u being just him. So the demo from the ~1989 being just Varg on guitar only makes sense.

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:33 pm 
 

Varg confirmed this is authentic.

It's really cool to hear the early stuff, where the riffing is strongly influenced by Destruction but it has a bit of that mystical Burzum feeling to it. The later recordings are interesting, because you can hear a bit more of how some of the synth tracks were written on guitar.
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Oxenkiller
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:14 pm 
 

I loved all of it, every minute of it. Especially the early speed metal influenced tracks (Total Destruction, Blood Red Scimitars); they aren't very "Burzum-Like" so to speak, but utterly shred; It would have been cool to hear finished songs made from them. The other more somber stuff (Haudmimscholt, etc.) is likewise excellent- great melody and atomosphere. Thanks for sharing! I remember for a long time, people were posting recordings of other bands, usually Ildjarn, and trying to pass them off as early Burzum/Uruk Hai recordings, which was obnoxious. This is clearly the real deal.

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XcKyle93
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:49 pm 
 

High quality find. Thanks for sharing.
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Evoken
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:00 pm 
 

That Epilogue track in particular is fantastic. It seems within the last 24 hours or so Varg reached out to the guy who posted it and asked for him to send him the files in high quality.

Hopefully he'll re-release these tracks officially on CD at some point, or at least digitally.

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Bingewolf
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:24 pm 
 

Would love to see him release it properly but, as of now, it seems he just asked for the HQ versions for his YouTube channel according to the Burzum Museum guy...

Either way, an incredible listen!

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Braltika
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:56 am 
 

Another, complete and unreleased, ambient song by Burzum (Oslo 2000): https://youtu.be/Z2WF5CeVcAM

Very bleak atmosphere and interesting percussion on this one. Like it a lot.
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booK_of_blood
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:59 am 
 

I wonder when all this Burzum worshiping will cease to exist to never resurface again. I find it quite embarrassing.

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Vigintiseptem
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:01 am 
 

booK_of_blood wrote:
I wonder when all this Burzum worshiping will cease to exist to never resurface again. I find it quite embarrassing.

Probably when the resurfacing unreleased material ceases to be of any musical consequence. So far it's been pretty good.

EDIT:
Except for this "techno" song Varg himself just published. This is crap.

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Braltika
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:50 am 
 

Vigintiseptem wrote:
Except for this "techno" song Varg himself just published. This is crap


Yikes, that is indeed horrible.
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raumr
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:38 am 
 

Yeah, it's pretty bad, and it's annoying too, because I always thought that Varg's sense of timing and song-structure would make for great (non-ambient) electronic music, like house or something.

But we should appreciate this material for what it is, it's scraping the bottom of recorded material never intended to be released.

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Bingewolf
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:33 am 
 

booK_of_blood wrote:
I wonder when all this Burzum worshiping will cease to exist to never resurface again. I find it quite embarrassing.


As you can read in the OP, this is not a Burzum worship thread and that was intentionally pointed out. It is discussing this unreleased, old material that has come to light. If any of the bands from that era suddenly had all of this lost material out, people would discuss it. Especially when it had long been claimed that no Uruk-Hai recordings had ever been done. If you are embarrassed to see metal being discussed on a metal board, you may have come to the wrong place...

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AcidWorm
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:54 pm 
 

Sick6Six wrote:
I swear I remember downloading this unreleased material like 20 years ago, or is this new unreleased material aside from what was out there before?


There was an Ihsahn (I think it was) ambient demo that was labeled as Uruk Hai/Burzum that was floating around P2P back around the early/mid 2000s when I was getting into extreme metal. That could be what you are referring to.
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TheLoneForest
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:21 pm 
 

booK_of_blood wrote:
I wonder when all this Burzum worshiping will cease to exist to never resurface again. I find it quite embarrassing.


Imagine thinking a discussion on unreleased Burzum music equates to worship. Nothing embarrassing about some rare demos

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Oxenkiller
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:25 pm 
 

The newest song, Oslo 2000, that just surfaced- it sounds like an intro to a real song that never quite gets going. Basically just 3:34 of intro. I kept waiting for the song to start, and it just kept on intro-ing.

The Uruk Hai stuff was a lot better, and to prove I'm not a Burzum worshipper- I thought a lot of his stuff was brilliant and a lot of it was crap; often times you'd have a combination of brilliant and crap on the very same album.

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TheLoneForest
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:43 pm 
 

Oxenkiller wrote:
The newest song, Oslo 2000, that just surfaced- it sounds like an intro to a real song that never quite gets going. Basically just 3:34 of intro. I kept waiting for the song to start, and it just kept on intro-ing.

The Uruk Hai stuff was a lot better, and to prove I'm not a Burzum worshipper- I thought a lot of his stuff was brilliant and a lot of it was crap; often times you'd have a combination of brilliant and crap on the very same album.


He was like 16 or 17 when he wrote it, so I don't rank it as much as Hvis lyset tar oss

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Oxenkiller
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:25 pm 
 

AcidWorm wrote:
Sick6Six wrote:
I swear I remember downloading this unreleased material like 20 years ago, or is this new unreleased material aside from what was out there before?


There was an Ihsahn (I think it was) ambient demo that was labeled as Uruk Hai/Burzum that was floating around P2P back around the early/mid 2000s when I was getting into extreme metal. That could be what you are referring to.


I remember that; I think it was actually various Ildjarn demos.

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Bingewolf
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:22 pm 
 

Oxenkiller wrote:
The newest song, Oslo 2000, that just surfaced- it sounds like an intro to a real song that never quite gets going. Basically just 3:34 of intro. I kept waiting for the song to start, and it just kept on intro-ing.


I thought the same thing... I think the Uruk-Hai stuff is pretty interesting as well as some of the Burzum that was on the same tape. According to the Burzum Museum guy, Varg thinks some of the stuff was recorded later than the dates listed so it could be that these were original ideas for material that would then become Burzum material.

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I remember that; I think it was actually various Ildjarn demos.


Yes, it was Ildjarn demos being passed around as Uruk-Hai. I remember that!

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:34 pm 
 

Varg is a fucking genius. Those newly-surfaced tracks rule! Especially the Ambient ones.
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