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Author: | colin040 [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
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Well shit, David DeFeis mentioned a boxset before but now there's this big thing. There's no doubt Nocturnes sucked but sure some of these new songs should be decent, right? Going by an interview I've recently found some of the new material would be a bluesy vein like a heavier Life among the Ruins and others should be more epic rocking stuff like the Marraige series. Part of me would really like to believe this band could still deliver, we'll see. |
Author: | kluseba [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
This is definitely value for money. I will check it our beforehand but probably end up buying it. The House of Atreus boxed set is also still on my list. |
Author: | agent_fist [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
I love the ambition and this level of commitment. It's almost painfully earnest and trve. It won't be good music, but is that even the point of this band? |
Author: | Metal_On_The_Ascendant [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
I liked Nocturnes of Hellfire & Damnation way better than The Black Light Bacchanalia. It's really good songs are good while the bad ones are also still kinda interesting because you can't wait to hear how hilariously DeFeis will screech or moan this time, plus there was more of an Edward Pursino presence which is a great thing. Bacchanalia on the other hand was just one big boring mess. agent_fist wrote: I love the ambition and this level of commitment. It's almost painfully earnest and trve. It won't be good music, but is that even the point of this band? Their ambition has always been admirable. They were always overreaching, and it paid off for them with their slew of classics. I hope they redeem themselves in their later era. |
Author: | Epicureo [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:48 pm ] |
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*DeFeis's screeching intensifies* This is going to be amazing. |
Author: | colin040 [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote: I liked Nocturnes of Hellfire & Damnation way better than The Black Light Bacchanalia. It's really good songs are good while the bad ones are also still kinda interesting because you can't wait to hear how hilariously DeFeis will screech or moan this time, plus there was more of an Edward Pursino presence which is a great thing. Bacchanalia on the other hand was just one big boring mess. agent_fist wrote: I love the ambition and this level of commitment. It's almost painfully earnest and trve. It won't be good music, but is that even the point of this band? Their ambition has always been admirable. They were always overreaching, and it paid off for them with their slew of classics. I hope they redeem themselves in their later era. You must the only one I know of who preferred Nocturnes over Bacchanalia. I find the latter better because it still has some of that epic quality to it, despite not being much of a guitar-oriented album. I'd easily take the first four tracks on that release over anything on Nocturnes or even Visions (which despite DeFeis' great vocals hasn't got much to offer if you ask me.) Some of the new material should be similar to the bonus material on Nocturnes as that Ghost Harvest stuff was mentioned before. The bonus material was actually rather good although DeFeis sounded hit or miss on those tunes; either good as he should (as in singing) or just terrible (whispering and relying on auto tune.) I guess it will be the same thing with his vocals this time. |
Author: | Empyreal [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
They have sucked for like over a decade now and the last album was truly embarrassing on like a St. Anger level for a band that used to be so good. But then again they always have cool song titles, so I'll probably end up checking a few out. Maybe they have a Hardwired-quality album in them at least, to keep the Metallica thing going. If anything it'd at least be good if they got a really good guitar tone again - that's how low the bar is for me. |
Author: | Terri23 [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
colin040 wrote: Well shit, David DeFeis mentioned a boxset before but now there's this big thing. There's no doubt Nocturnes sucked but sure some of these new songs should be decent, right? Going by an interview I've recently found some of the new material would be a bluesy vein like a heavier Life among the Ruins and others should be more epic rocking stuff like the Marraige series. Part of me would really like to believe this band could still deliver, we'll see. Life Among the Ruins was fucking awful. Please no. |
Author: | Aydross [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Man I got virtually zero hope for this but I really fucking want to believe. At least the album cover is good. |
Author: | colin040 [ Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:16 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Terri23 wrote: colin040 wrote: Well shit, David DeFeis mentioned a boxset before but now there's this big thing. There's no doubt Nocturnes sucked but sure some of these new songs should be decent, right? Going by an interview I've recently found some of the new material would be a bluesy vein like a heavier Life among the Ruins and others should be more epic rocking stuff like the Marraige series. Part of me would really like to believe this band could still deliver, we'll see. Life Among the Ruins was fucking awful. Please no. I forgot to mention that that the first disc should resemble Life Among the Ruins although it's suppose to be heavier/more gothic-y. I really doubt we'll get an album full of ''Sex Religion Machine'' and whatnot. |
Author: | Lord_Jotun [ Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
If this had happened ten years ago I would be creaming my parts so hard that my balls would be drier than the Kalahari desert for weeks afterwards. After witnessing the last two albums, though, I don't really know. |
Author: | MatsBG [ Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Can't say I'm all that excited for this release. The "gothic blues" or whatever DeFeis calls their style nowadays doesn't work at all. Nocturnes lacked everything that made the band great, and seeing as the song titles bear a striking similarity to this new release's tracklists, I won't hold my breath. (Still gonna buy it though...) |
Author: | Oblarg [ Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
I mean, everyone knows this is going to be a steaming pile of crap. DeFeis is a total nut at this point - I mean, he was always a bit...eccentric...but he has literally no one to keep him grounded anymore. |
Author: | iamntbatman [ Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Yeah I was super confused for a minute...I thought after I clicked this thread and read the first few excited comments that I had accidentally sorted the entire forum in reverse chronological order or something and had clicked a thread from 2002. My expectations for this are that it's going to be hilariously inept and awful. If it's anything better than that, it'll be a vaguely pleasant surprise? |
Author: | Element_man [ Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Damn these songs titles are absolutely whack |
Author: | Temple Of Blood [ Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Will it be 3 albums of those weird, one-of-a-kind whispered vocals he does? |
Author: | MawBTS [ Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Why are the most prolific bands always the ones that nobody in their right mind wants to hear from? |
Author: | Empyreal [ Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
MawBTS wrote: Why are the most prolific bands always the ones that nobody in their right mind wants to hear from? They put out an album like every five years; hardly prolific. |
Author: | Lord_Jotun [ Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Perhaps by "prolific" he was referring to VS crapping out all these discs at once? In that case he definitely has a point, as bands that put out lots of releases in very short amounts of time tend to be rather lax when it comes to quality control. |
Author: | colin040 [ Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Both you and Oblarg seem to be correct. In an interview with metal kaoz, pointed below DeFeis claimed this boxset was suppose to come out 6 months ago, but the thing got delayed and he kept on writing songs instead. What I find rather strange is how plenty of this boxset material was done the last couple of months and weeks from what I've heard. You'd think that a band that has been ''working on several albums at once '' as DeFeis claimed would include one of those in the new disc but there's no mention of that.
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The fact that the The Black Light Bacchanalia live stuff would be different vocally could mean either two things: 1: Vocally this will be good again or 2: The autotune will strike back. |
Author: | MatsBG [ Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
colin040 wrote: Both you and Oblarg seem to be correct. In an interview with metal kaoz, pointed below DeFeis claimed this boxset was suppose to come out 6 months ago, but the thing got delayed and he kept on writing songs instead. What I find rather strange is how plenty of this boxset material was done the last couple of months and weeks from what I've heard. You'd think that a band that has been ''working on several albums at once '' as DeFeis claimed would include one of those in the new disc but there's no mention of that.
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The fact that the The Black Light Bacchanalia live stuff would be different vocally could mean either two things: 1: Vocally this will be good again or 2: The autotune will strike back. DeFeis is already working on two new studio albums?! |
Author: | colin040 [ Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
They (or just DeFeis himself, we don't know nowadays) have been the last couple of years apparently. First the Ghost Harvest disc was suppose to be a bonus disc for the Invictus reissue and that ''Atreus concept'' thing was suppose to be the next studio album to be released. Both things changed and instead we got an acoustic bonus disc and Nocturnes of Hellfire and Damnation instead. |
Author: | MatsBG [ Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
colin040 wrote: They (or just DeFeis himself, we don't know nowadays) have been the last couple of years apparently. First the Ghost Harvest disc was suppose to be a bonus disc for the Invictus reissue and that ''Atreus concept'' thing was suppose to be the next studio album to be released. Both things changed and instead we got an acoustic bonus disc and Nocturnes of Hellfire and Damnation instead. That's insane! To take that many detours in releasing new material! But now that you mention it, there is definitely something familiar with the name Ghost Harvest. It's from an interview on their website, right? |
Author: | Empyreal [ Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:16 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
I have to say, reading that interview makes me hope I'll like the stuff - that kind of excitement from an artist is contagious. |
Author: | Oblarg [ Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Empyreal wrote: I have to say, reading that interview makes me hope I'll like the stuff - that kind of excitement from an artist is contagious. DeFeis always genuinely thinks that what he's doing is brilliant innovation on the bold frontier of musical exploration. I think it's foolish to let it influence our expectations of the results at this point. |
Author: | Temple Of Blood [ Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Lord_Jotun wrote: Perhaps by "prolific" he was referring to VS crapping out all these discs at once? In that case he definitely has a point, as bands that put out lots of releases in very short amounts of time tend to be rather lax when it comes to quality control. Overkill |
Author: | colin040 [ Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
No samples/new song online yet, but the cover artworks are...and if you ask me, they look pretty sweet. |
Author: | Lord_Jotun [ Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:07 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
I like the concepts, but the execution seems to be a bit lacking. I can't put my finger on why exactly; I feel like the atmosphere is right, but something is missing. |
Author: | Lionel Fauquier [ Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Yeah I'm not a big fan of VS's newer material either , which puts me in the ambivalent camp as well . This whole three new albums thing is definitely unusual as well so I donno . I'll definitely try to give a trial listen before I buy . |
Author: | BeholdtheNicktopus [ Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Virgin Steele are one of my favorite bands... they released 5 sequential albums that I consider the pinnacle of heavy metal... but oh my god, what the fuck is going on??? Thinking about how far the mighty have fallen gives me quite the dysphoria. Just goes to show that music is magic or knack more than it is a science. I'm going to go listen to "Kingdom of the Fearless (The Destruction of Troy)" on loop and try to forget that this is happening... |
Author: | Acrobat [ Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Temple Of Blood wrote: Lord_Jotun wrote: Perhaps by "prolific" he was referring to VS crapping out all these discs at once? In that case he definitely has a point, as bands that put out lots of releases in very short amounts of time tend to be rather lax when it comes to quality control. Overkill You're right, Overkill do have poor quality control. |
Author: | TrooperOfSteel [ Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:47 am ] |
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I was able to have a listen to the 3 new albums last night. I wasn't impressed in the slightest. They sound more like a lounge band nowdays, the heavy and power have pretty much disappeared... |
Author: | colin040 [ Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Found a review online on http://www.metal-observer.com/3.o/revie ... moonshine/. Apparently this shit scored a 0 out of 10. Looks like we're in for another disaster now eh.
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Author: | Empyreal [ Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Well now I am excited for this. In the way that one wants to watch movies like The Room or Troll 2. |
Author: | BeholdtheNicktopus [ Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
The whole "so bad it's good" thing works in some cases, but knowing that it's Virgin Steele makes it too painful and embarrassing (for me at least) to imagine a "so bad it's good" response. Oh man, 0 out of 10. That review is incredible, thanks for posting. On second thought, I do think it's maybe so bad it's good, but I'll make that judgment just via the review, keeping the actual music at a proper distance. Ouch. |
Author: | Oblarg [ Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
There's little unintentional comedy value to be had from Virgin Steele anymore - they jumped that particular shark with the "music video" they made for Perfect Mansions (Mountains of the Sun) a few years back. Now it's just sad. |
Author: | Epicureo [ Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:48 pm ] |
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*DeFeis's screeching attenuating* I still want to hear the three new albums but I'm gonna keep my expectations in check. |
Author: | Aydross [ Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
By "in check" you mean buried deep within the Mariana Trench right? |
Author: | Epicureo [ Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Aydross wrote: By "in check" you mean buried deep within the Mariana Trench right? Truth to be told, I shamelessly think the 2015 album wasn't that bad so I'm not being that cautious about the upcoming new albums. |
Author: | Metal_On_The_Ascendant [ Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Steele to release a boxset with 3 (?!) new albums inside this November |
Nocturnes to me was a better album than Bacchanalia which was so fucking insufferable because of how bloated each and every song was. Really, really terrible songwriting. Nocturnes has some good songwriting; Lucifer's Hammer, Persephone, The Plague and The Fire, Glamour, A Greater Burning Of Innocence and The Birth Of Beauty are really good songs that maybe could have been better with a bit more restraint from DeFeis in the vocal department...but that's a lot more songs than I can name for Bacchanalia. |
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