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RichardDeBenthall
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:00 am 
 

gasmask_colostomy wrote:
I'm a little sceptical about these famous black and death metal albums being mentioned (Mayhem, Bolt Thrower) because they don't sound unique exactly, just haven't been totally paralleled as of now. Sometimes the atmosphere sticks out on a personal level, but it's difficult to tell others why.


My thing with De Mysteriis is pretty focused on the music to be fair! The riffs that Euronymous and Blackthron were coming up with were incredibly inventive (more so than all of their contemporaries who were basically just worshiping Bathory/Celtic Frost), it has a really bass heavy sound which is fairly rare in BM and then it's got that damn vocal performance on it. Attila's vocals on that record tend to split people into love it or hate it but its certainly unique and I think if you mix that in with the other stuff it does stand up as being a unique BM record.

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HeavenDuff
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:05 am 
 

dirty_harry wrote:
It has just dawned on me:
This timeless masterpiece, still misunderstood and challenging a listening experience after all those years: La Masquerade Infernale. The alpha and omega of uniqueness.


I thought about including Arcturus, but since their records have strong similarities between them, I couldn't pick an album that sticks out of their discography as unique. If anything, Arcturus as a band is quite unique.

gasmask_colostomy wrote:
I'm a little sceptical about these famous black and death metal albums being mentioned (Mayhem, Bolt Thrower) because they don't sound unique exactly, just haven't been totally paralleled as of now.


Bolt Thrower fits, in my opinion. Realm of Chaos is a quite unique brand of deathgrind. I don't know any other record that sounds like it. Sure other BT albums share similarities, but if I had to pick one of their albums that really stands out as unique, it would be Realm of Chaos. I also considered throwing in Those Once Loyal in the discussion. It's a very melodic brand of death metal. It's not melodeath, it's very traditionnal death metal, but done with a modern twist that makes it really stand out. I hope more modern dm bands would take influence from Those Once Loyal.

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Thy Shrine
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:27 pm 
 

droneriot wrote:
Nuclear Death - Bride of Insect
Nuclear Death - Carrion for Worm
Nuclear Death - All Creatures Great and Eaten
Nuclear Death - The Planet Cachexial

Consistent run of absolutely unique and perfect material.



Needs more For Our Dead, but other than that I'm on board.
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droneriot
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:39 pm 
 

Yeah I only did full-lengths, everything else is included by implication.
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Oxenkiller
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:45 pm 
 

"Bride of Insect" by Nuclear Death is pretty unique- almost "outsider music" in it's utterly fucked up guitar sound (sounds like a swarm of angry wasps) and lyrics that are genuinely psychologically disturbing in their goriness, not just cheezy gore like a lot of bands do. I bought this album at the time because I was looking for something harsh, genuine, and underground and brutal, and liked raw noisy production, but even I found this album hard to listen to back then.

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Gemini 7 Rising
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:28 pm 
 

PAN.THY.MONIUM Dawn of Dreams & Khaooohs, pretty unique as far as I'm aware

And I stand by Mayhem, particularly ORDO AD CHAO. Love it or hate it, tell me what else is anything like it? Maybe there's something I'm unaware of
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Flem Clone
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:16 pm 
 

I'm going to add Macabre to the discussion. Their music has a quirky, distinct personality to it. No other band really sounds like them. Albums such as "Dahmer" and "Grim Scary Tales" feature a variety of vocal styles and musical flavors.

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KomaOvTrollz
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:56 pm 
 

Devil Doll’s entire discography.

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Bastarex
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:13 am 
 

Off the top of my head:
* diSEMBOWELMENT ‎– "Transcendence Into The Peripheral"
* Lykathea Aflame ‎– "Elvenefris"
* maudlin of the Well ‎– "My Fruit Psychobells... A Seed Combustible"
* maudlin of the Well ‎– "Bath"
* maudlin of the Well ‎– "Leaving Your Body Map"
* maudlin of the Well ‎– "Part The Second"
* Pan.Thy.Monium ‎– "Dawn Of Dreams"
* Pan.Thy.Monium ‎– "Khaooohs"
* Pan.Thy.Monium ‎– "Khaooohs And Kon-Fus-Ion"
* Skepticism ‎– "Stormcrowfleet"
* Thergothon ‎– "Stream From The Heavens"
* Wound Collector ‎– "Eternal Bloodcult"

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Smalley
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:04 pm 
 

The magnificent slab of Technical Jazz Fusion Death Metal with robot-like vocoder vocals and numerous chill "hippie" interludes that is Cynic's Focus, anyone?
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droneriot
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:53 am 
 

Playing Eddie Van Halen warm-up exercises over bad David Bowie homages is not technical death metal. Or unique.
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Leader_OCola
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:22 am 
 

most anything by the following bands


Phlebotomized
Caducity
Rhymes of Destruction
Lugubrum
Fleurety
Oxiplegatz
Alchemist
Wulkanaz/Tomhet

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lurkist
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:30 pm 
 

shwartzheim wrote:
Two of my all-time favourites that most definitely fit the bill here

Ved Buens Ende – Written In Waters
Monumentum – In Absentia Christi (this one in particular is HUGELY underappreciated. Some type of atmospheric/avant/goth-doom but so much more.)


Came here to say Written. Great picks, and weirdly I got these two in the same mail-order package together from Misanthropy. RIP.
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true_death
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:57 pm 
 

Supuration - The Cube, a really nice mix of Gothic-era Paradise Lost-style death-doom with Nothingface-era Voivod-style weirdness. The two styles come together surprisingly well and it makes for a very interesting and satisfying listen. The band's other releases are worthwhile too, but this has always been my favorite album from them.

Disharmonic Orchestra - Not to Be Undimensional Conscious, this album really defies explanation. This band was always a little weird, but they really went above and beyond with this album. It's basically avant-garde/tech death, not too far off from what Gorguts would start doing a few years later - though this album lacks the dark, oppressive atmosphere they made famous and instead feels surprisingly fun and light-hearted, especially in the softer bits like the instrumental "Time Frame" and the intro to "Groove". There's also some crazy genre-jumping at times (listen to "Return of the Living Beat" if you are curious about that :)). All in all, one of my all-time favorite albums, a masterpiece beginning to end!
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Twisted_Psychology
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:36 am 
 

Moonspell's Wolfheart is the first album that comes to mind for me. It'd be easy to brush it off as typical goth metal but it incorporates so much from hard rock, black, doom, symphonic, and folk metal to warrant being its own thing. Not to mention the album's flow makes these different elements run incredibly smoothly.

Inspired by the Queensryche thread, I've also realized how unique Rage for Order was for its time. I love how it combines metal, prog, post punk, and industrial while still keeping a steady conceptual tone. It's dated as hell but nothing else sounds like it.
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_flow
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:43 am 
 

^ I'm really glad Moonspell re-recorded their early material, Under Satanæ is great.

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dirty_harry
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:36 am 
 

true_death wrote:
Supuration - The Cube, a really nice mix of Gothic-era Paradise Lost-style death-doom with Nothingface-era Voivod-style weirdness. The two styles come together surprisingly well and it makes for a very interesting and satisfying listen. The band's other releases are worthwhile too, but this has always been my favorite album from them.



Great album. Which reminds me of Misanthrope's both 'Totem Taboo' and '1666 Theatre Bizarre', the former being especially fucked up bizarro big time, due to the whiny vocals that work surprisingly well in the context of the whole album.

And how about my recent favourite weirdos, namely Pensées Nocturnes in their wonderful 'Nom d'une pipe!' from 2013, or Transcending Bizarre?'s 2010 opus 'The misanthrope's fable"? Or Carnival In coals's 'Fear Not' or CSSO's 'Are you excrements'?

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Aydross
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:35 am 
 

RichardDeBenthall wrote:
Ocean Machine by Devin Townsend (His solo stuff is so varied but each album kind of has it's own vibe and I don't think he ever quite returned to the vibe of this record. Damn shame because it's his best by far imo. So dense and I dunno, watery...)


I've always got a oceany vibe from this album too, like "Bastard" to me sounds like a slow moving tsunami or waves. But I have to wonder how much of that is influenced by the album cover, color, name and lyrics compared to the actual music.

If the album was a fire related concept, with the exact same music/songs, how much would that change the perception of the listeners?
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SculptedCold
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:58 am 
 

Aydross wrote:
I've always got a oceany vibe from this album too, like "Bastard" to me sounds like a slow moving tsunami or waves. But I have to wonder how much of that is influenced by the album cover, color, name and lyrics compared to the actual music.

If the album was a fire related concept, with the exact same music/songs, how much would that change the perception of the listeners?


Exactly. Our suggestibility makes it too easy to run with whatever associations we're given. I have the same doubts whenever I read a review saying such-and-such's instrument or vocals may seem bad, or not to everyone's taste, but it perfectly fits the music/album. Like, if history had given that album a different vocalist or drummer etc, would the reviewer have really followed suit to say that that element (now) doesn't work? I'd think in most cases, no. If we very much like the overall work or concept we tend to try to rationalize everything into the whole, making anything that might not quite fit harmonious with the rest.

Ocean Machine-Biomech is actually one of the few overtly themed albums I can think of where I don't feel the outward theme through the music. Usually i'm down for whatever an artist's packaging and titling wants to suggest for me.

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nuklearkrieg
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:49 am 
 

First Misantropical Painforest album. They're all batshit greatness but that one is next level.

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leetorry
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:06 am 
 

Morbid Angel's Domination
My whole love and appreciation for this gem is due to how much it encompasses pretty much everything that's great about metal, and due to unbelievably accessible compared to its extremer brothers while still being brutal compared to the normal metal album. To brutal and harsh for melo death, to modern for odsm and to accessible and melodic for brutal death metal.

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Xymosys
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:44 pm 
 

Twisted_Psychology wrote:
Moonspell's Wolfheart is the first album that comes to mind for me. It'd be easy to brush it off as typical goth metal but it incorporates so much from hard rock, black, doom, symphonic, and folk metal to warrant being its own thing. Not to mention the album's flow makes these different elements run incredibly smoothly.


Agreed!
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