I dare say anyone with a brain understands the difference between hosting a database of encyclopedic information vs. letting slurs and hate speech fester inside a community. Thankfully. Which would also be why a Wikipedia article about 8chan or Stormfront is not the same thing as actually being those places. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I was just watching a video yesterday which detailed why the Golden Age of the Internet is over. Forums dying was part of it. Our favorite places to post and discuss the weird alternative stuff we like is just another big massive move in consolidating the whole internet under one big corporate umbrella.

This board really should be a lot more active than what it is (like Metal Rules was years ago).

And, oh man, does this place get a lot of bots; you just don't see them because we filter them out behind the scenes.

What do you mean, "so?" The "so" is evident in the very fact that the forum is shut down now, due to reasons that have everything to do with what I just pointed out.

There's nothing vague or silly about it; he was aware of many of his users' desire to promote hate speech right on his forum and did nothing about it for years. Not sure why anyone is surprised there would be any kind of blowback about it.

Fucking captcha won't work right

I've actually found the last couple years to be great for metal releases...

Link to that video please?

I started off on usenet groups, forums were for pussies. Vic used to post on alt.net.slayer and there were some good guys there but they were what forums are now, dying off when I was just getting into them.

there aren't any. millenials and their love of instant-feedback/gratification social media alternatives killed forums.

...which Yosuke was shutting down (locking topics that went off topic and banning political topics), especially in the later years. I thought you were talking about the occasional racist quip or angry comment on an "Antifa shuts down concert x" thread, not some kind of coherent promotion/recruitment of some ideology.

"So" as in why is nwn getting its just desserts by being shut down? That's what you haven't clearly explained, it's very confusing trying to figure out what you think Yosuke should have been doing.

I'm also glad that UltimateMetal died (or is dying out). Truly the absolute lowest common denominator of metal fans - racists, misogynists, homophobes, ignorant rednecks etc. I liked how they had official band sub forums, but even those became a complete joke. Tons of bands closed their forums on that site because of the shit that "fans" would post. I remember one kid posted a link to a fucking murder that someone filmed. A guy getting his head cut off in some forest in Europe (not lying here - really happened). Totally disgusting. Even if this forum has less contributions, at least most of the people are polite and intelligent. And come to think of it, the only thing worse than UM was the Pantera message board wayyyy back in the day, like around 1999-2002. Absolute lunatics over there...but then again, they're Pantera fans so shouldn't be surprised.

Discord is more of a messenger/chat type of thing correct? Not interested in that personally.

Rather than make a new thread I'll just ask here since NWN was also my main resource for this, is there any decent sites(not the big tabloid ones) for promotional news about new releases? The more underground stuff they cover the better.

Woah, wait a minute! Millenials grew up with the forum experience too! Its the younger kids who are turning the internet into mobile-friendly, quickly consumed, 30 second videos.

Its pretty obviouss to me and many others that he wasn't doing jack shit to ban the users who most prevalently spread hate speech. This is exactly why it was shut down. If he had actually done anything at all to keep that under control, there would be no reason to shut it down. Do you not get that? The moderation there was slim to none and consequences of that inaction are plain to see.

So? It's just up to the personal modding styles of the community whether that kind of stuff gets banned or not. And then people can gravitate to some communities or others depending on whether they jive with that community organization and rule structure or not. That's kinda just how people work. Saying that Yosuke is "complicit" in promoting bigoted ideals is a vague and silly accusation.

I never saw anything offensive/outrageous at UltimateMetal in all my years of posting there.

I mostly posted in the Divebomb Records/Steve DiGiorgio/Ron Jarzombek/Spiral Architect forums and the general metal forum.

It could be because I very rarely spend anytime in the "General" section of any metal forums.

Let's be honest. Yosuke nuked the forum because of shook folks like rexxz that are more concerned with big bad words than any music or information on that forum.

Yeah that was my thought too.

Damn, are there more than the "Google/Yahoo[Bot]s" that occasionally shows up in the currently browsing list?

Let's be honest. Yosuke nuked the forum because of shook folks like rexxz that are more concerned with big bad words than any music or information on that forum.

What was the NWN forum?

the upper end of the millennials did, but not the lower end. Millennials include birth year through 1996. By 2010 , the growth of social media was well on pace, and forums in decline(maybe not so much for metal per se, but in general) .

How do we know that the small number of racist posts on NWN's forum were tangibly hurting their business? It was stated before in this thread as a given.

I'm not saying they shouldn't or should be allowed, but where is the actual evidence?