I highly doubt the NWN forum was nuked out of fear for his label's future. Quite the contrary, the popularity of that board ensured that his releases got attention. It's far more likely he took it down due to trying to lessen the chance of his actual, professional career being impacted by it.

Well, seems like a new forum have been made, guess we will see how active and good it will be.

https://revelationofdoom.com/

M-A is quite big enough for the more tolerable and civil members of that community to join, but unfortunately I think there was a large sentiment on NWN that M-A is full of elitist or something to that effect. Shame.

I was a member of NWN community for almost as long as this. It's quite literally firsthand experience and not speculation, but go on. It is absolutely a strong sentiment that has persisted about M-A from several prominent members of that forum.

Seems to me that NWN is a much more elite crowd than this one. Tons of flower metal fans here it seems and the NWN crowd seem to be into much heavier/kult stuff generally.

I'm not sure you know what "elitist" means.

I don't like it already. The color scheme makes it look like the life metal version of that board or even this board and they're adding too many sub-forums. The best thing about the previous board was the simplicity and anything not related directly to music was deleted(even if it turned into a dumb political debate it always at least started out on topic...).

I don't like it already. The color scheme makes it look like the life metal version of that board or even this board and they're adding too many sub-forums. The best thing about the previous board was the simplicity and anything not related directly to music was deleted(even if it turned into a dumb political debate it always at least started out on topic...).

Damn, are there more than the "Google/Yahoo[Bot]s" that occasionally shows up in the currently browsing list?

Hopefully Yosuke will eventually at least archive it so future people can trawl through it, sort of like the old Full Moon Productions forum

I never used NWN except sometimes to laugh at the incels, but I assume you have used the wayback machine here? I have no clue how up-to-date this is but https://web.archive.org/web/20190510121 ... com/forum/

My apologies if someone has posted this already, I did not read the whole thread. Yes yes, it is people like me who are killing BBs, apologies!

The general metal discussion thread and the stupid photo thread they had there were the worst. I posted in GMD regularly, under a different username, and I also spent a lot of time in the Nevermore forum, but that turned into a complete joke towards the end of the band.

Yeah, as was echoed above, YK pulling the forum down definitely wasn't because of NWN-related activities. It was that HeresyLabs was calling out his name, real profession and all of his details so he had to get rid of the 'evidence' of what was on NWN in order to protect himself professionally. I'm sure it would be much better for NWN if the forum was still up. You'll also never an official statement because any statement would have to address WHY it went down and that's what YK won't be able to speak on without causing himself more trouble.

That said, I joined NWN a long time ago because I like a lot of underground black metal and doom so I would find a lot of cool stuff there that I would never have found otherwise. However, it was completely overrun with nazis and that really kept me from being very active there. It was actually quite shocking to me at first to see such open racists and hateful music being promoted (and that it was totally accepted). That's why I've always spent most of my time on MA, honestly. I'd check in on NWN and see if there are any new bands or albums but it was really lame to me that it was so accepted and welcomed.

I wouldn't be surprised if YK does bring the forum back at some point or starts a new one and, frankly, this Revelation of Doom forum does look like most of the threads were copy/pasted from NWN so maybe that's it...

Also, I don't think it's fair to say that most people in the underground scene traffic in hate speech... As I have discussed a lot on MA, I'm very opposed to that and know a lot of others who feel the same way. Unfortunately, there are a lot of those people too but I don't think we should just give up our scene to them so that's why I've always been outspoken about it here.

Would be great to see MA getting more traffic and activity though. I love coming here and it would be great to see it more active. Just not with nazis.

completely overrun by nazis?
i have never seen any posts on that forum promoting nazism

So true.

I have many theories about why that is so.

You didn’t see loads of racists posting their NSBM all over the board? Including Hendrik Mobus? You must not have ever been to the forum...

No, but seriously. That’s why the forum is gone. Heresy Labs and a couple other activist groups did big stories on YK, NWN and criticized him for giving nazis a big platform to distribute their music and message. The target was actually Never Surrender festival, which was happening that weekend and had some bands with NS associations on it. However, the full focus was on the abundance of nazis on the NWN forum and YK allowing them and commenting on what NS bands he likes, etc. You can look up the whole situation online and see what the issue was.

It's almost as if this entire thread hasn't been predicated on that very topic, yet here we are trying to explain to someone that yes, in fact, NWN forum was overrun with Nazis, trolls and other unsavory types. It is also the very reason I mostly lurked there for 10 years instead of actively participating.