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Necrodictator
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Location: Zimbabwe
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:28 am 
 

I'll just leave it here...
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Gunslinger21
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:34 am 
 

High quality band, I listened to (I think) their third album a while ago, they're pretty good at what they do. Will be interesting to hear.

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~Guest 454771
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:35 am 
 

Something to tide people over til the next DragonForce album. Great!

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I_Crash_and_Burn
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Location: San Benedetto Belbo (Cuneo) Italy
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:06 pm 
 

One copy is already sold. Mine.

Just waitin' for the nerdy do-gooder tellin' me that by supportin' Arghoslent I'm a fascist and must be banned.
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Member banned (2 weeks): trolling. Should have left it at the first line only.

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~Guest 454771
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:39 pm 
 

Petition for I_Crash_And_Burn's forum title to be changed to "I am very badass"!

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Vadara
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:14 pm
Posts: 484
Location: United States
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:48 pm 
 

Boy I wished Antifa actually attacked as many concerts as fascists claim they did, because then maybe they'd fuck this band's shows up.

EDIT: They don't play live? Damn, how disappointing.

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Oxenkiller
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Joined: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:42 am
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:34 pm 
 

Ironic that a guy whose location is listed as "Zimbabwe" (A black African nation) started a thread about a band that hates black people.

Let me politely say that I have no interest in ever listening to this album let alone buying it.

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BastardHead
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:53 pm 
 

Arghoslent used to be my Inquisition, the band that I abhorred on a personal/moral level but championed anyway because the riffs were so good. I've grown a bit and look back at my defenses with a beefy cringe but hey, the internet is forever. Thankfully House of Atreus came around and managed to replicate their style exactly as well as they do it but with infinity less racism, so I'm not missing much anymore.

Maybe I'll crack and give it a listen out of nostalgic curiosity but you bet your ass I'm not paying for it.
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henkkjelle
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:57 pm 
 

I'm in the same situation as BastardHead. These horrible people know how to write some tasy riffs so I'll have a listen, but they're not getting a single cent from me.
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Hecatomb867
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Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:56 pm
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Location: Canada
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:13 pm 
 

There are way too many excellent bands who are so much more deserving of my precious music listening time. I'm not wasting a second on these oxygen stealing incels, especially with new albums from Necrot and Phrenelith on the way. Pass.

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blackmantram
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:44 pm 
 

So, hopefully there will be a new grand belial's key album sometime soon as well.

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akb88
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Joined: Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:28 pm
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Location: Iceland
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:34 pm 
 

henkkjelle wrote:
I'm in the same situation as BastardHead. These horrible people know how to write some tasy riffs so I'll have a listen, but they're not getting a single cent from me.


What about on the used market in a few years time? Shouldn't get any money from there.
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hakarl
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:49 pm 
 

Hecatomb867 wrote:
There are way too many excellent bands who are so much more deserving of my precious music listening time. I'm not wasting a second on these oxygen stealing incels, especially with new albums from Necrot and Phrenelith on the way. Pass.

That's exactly right, and besides, they suck anyway.
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Conan Troutman
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:51 pm 
 

You either approve or you don't. If you dislike the subject matter don't listen to it. You can't claim some moral high ground by listening without buying or buying it second hand.

I listened to one of their albums on YouTube and thought it was OK but nothing to get excited about.

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Gravetemplar
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:54 pm 
 

Hecatomb867 wrote:
There are way too many excellent bands who are so much more deserving of my precious music listening time. I'm not wasting a second on these oxygen stealing incels, especially with new albums from Necrot and Phrenelith on the way. Pass.

This.

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Zephirus
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Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:08 pm 
 

odd title, so it's not a retrospective or compilation...
will be interested to hear

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Xenophon
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:17 pm 
 

akb88 wrote:
henkkjelle wrote:
I'm in the same situation as BastardHead. These horrible people know how to write some tasy riffs so I'll have a listen, but they're not getting a single cent from me.


What about on the used market in a few years time? Shouldn't get any money from there.

Well according to economics, I think a used CD would be a substitute good for a new CD, so by buying used CDs, you are contributing to increasing the price or scarcity of the used CDs, which would lead to more demand for the new CDs. Basically, buying used may or may not help them make money, but it almost certainly can't hurt them.

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Pitiless Wanderer
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Location: Ankara
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:29 pm 
 

I still can't support these morons. I don't care how good their riffs are because they're actually not any better than most good death/black/thrash bands.

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ShaolinLambKiller
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:38 pm 
 

I can't wait for this release. House of Atreus doesn't hold a candle to sounding anywhere near them. I will be pre-ordering.
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StainedClass95
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:47 pm 
 

I enjoy IB, but the debut and 3rd release were a clear step down. I'll be interested to see how this one comes out, but I wouldn't say I have particularly high expectations.

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:21 pm 
 

Vadara wrote:
Boy I wished Antifa actually attacked as many concerts as fascists claim they did, because then maybe they'd fuck this band's shows up.

EDIT: They don't play live? Damn, how disappointing.


They do play live, or at least used to actually. And for obvious reasons the shows were invite only.
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Deathstalker1985
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Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:53 pm
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:55 pm 
 

BastardHead wrote:
Thankfully House of Atreus came around and managed to replicate their style exactly as well as they do it but with infinity less racism, so I'm not missing much anymore.


I disagree, they don't come anywhere close to as good as Arghostlent does it.

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Deathstalker1985
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:07 pm 
 

You know, I figured we would've gotten a new Grand Belial's Key album before we got a new Arghostlent one. Its been longer since their last album came out. I wonder if there is anything new in the works?

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Bingewolf
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:45 pm 
 

Hecatomb867 wrote:
There are way too many excellent bands who are so much more deserving of my precious music listening time. I'm not wasting a second on these oxygen stealing incels, especially with new albums from Necrot and Phrenelith on the way. Pass.


Agreed! And can't wait for that Phrenelith album...

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Sedition and Pockets
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:30 am 
 

How many bands are in the Archives? Lots of good riffs out there by folks who don't use them to openly advocate for the worst ideas in human history.
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Lord_Jotun
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:02 am 
 

I'll believe it when I see it. They've been hinting at new music for over a decade now, same for GBK, so I'm not holding my breath.
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droneriot
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:24 pm 
 

Mellifleur wrote:
Something to tide people over til the next DragonForce album. Great!

By release dates it's more the other way around, but I dunno if Dragonforce is really flowery enough to appeal to Arghoslent fans.
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cweed
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:28 pm 
 

droneriot wrote:
Mellifleur wrote:
Something to tide people over til the next DragonForce album. Great!

By release dates it's more the other way around, but I dunno if Dragonforce is really flowery enough to appeal to Arghoslent fans.


Yeah, I always thought the comparison between Dragonforce and Arghoslent was kind of dumb.
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narsilianshard
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:46 pm 
 

BastardHead wrote:
Thankfully House of Atreus came around and managed to replicate their style exactly as well as they do it but with infinity less racism.

Uhhh buddy you might wanna read their lyrics. Zealous Inequity is about hating immigrants, Call to Thee, Concubines is about raping prostitutes, and Bonded Behind Supremacy speaks for itself. They hide behind the guise of "Greek history", but the fact that they wear Arghoslent merch in their band photos and sound just like them makes it pretty clear what they're about.
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blackmantram
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:58 pm 
 

Zephirus wrote:
odd title, so it's not a retrospective or compilation...
will be interested to hear


I don't think the text in those fliers are the actual title of the upcoming album, it's just your average proud-to-be-old-and-underground promotional flier. (Ironic, I know)

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Gravetemplar
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:59 pm 
 

narsilianshard wrote:
BastardHead wrote:
Thankfully House of Atreus came around and managed to replicate their style exactly as well as they do it but with infinity less racism.

Uhhh buddy you might wanna read their lyrics. Zealous Inequity is about hating immigrants, Call to Thee, Concubines is about raping prostitutes, and Bonded Behind Supremacy speaks for itself. They hide behind the guise of "Greek history", but the fact that they wear Arghoslent merch in their band photos and sound just like them makes it pretty clear what they're about.

Yeah, I was under the impression House of Atreus were very sketchy too. I remember reading at a forum that some people had seen members of the band sieg heiling at a show but I can't find it any more. At least one of the members also wears a lot of nazi patches (Arghoslent, Grand Belial's Key, Svolder, etc). They've also played live with some of these bands.

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blackmantram
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:06 pm 
 

Wow, people, slow down, we're running out of metal bands to listen to...

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Gravetemplar
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:27 pm 
 

https://www.last.fm/es/festival/4150944 ... e+7/lineup

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House of atreus played this nazi fest: Infernal War, Iconoclast Contra, Moharebeh, Nokturne, Svolder... The promoter was Behold Barbarty, a known neo-nazi label: https://toiletovhell.com/nazi-metalheads-fuck-off/

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:45 pm 
 

HELL FUCKING YES! Can't fucking wait. Arghoslent are the absolute best and I'm positive their new album is going to be a great contender for AOTY 2020.
Deathstalker1985 wrote:
You know, I figured we would've gotten a new Grand Belial's Key album before we got a new Arghostlent one. Its been longer since their last album came out. I wonder if there is anything new in the works?

There's a mid-2019 interview in which Gelal mentions having almost finished recording new albums for both Arghoslent and Grand Belial's Key, and both coming out in 2020. So yeah new GBK is also in the works.
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hakarl
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:32 pm 
 

This band is very controversial, and some of the moral stuff here is worth discussing in the context, regarding listening to their music, supporting the band, etc. That's allowed.

Derailing the thread by trying to start arguments about political correctness in metal is, however, not. Let's all behave, I know you can do it.
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idunnosomename
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:48 pm 
 

Hereditary Taint is really repulsive in excusing the Holocaust by comparing Jews to vermin who are marked for extermination. Intolerable bigotry more like.

Also if you're going to claim songs like that are purely historical, when writing Flogging the Cargo about the transatlantic slave trade best not use phrase "flawed genome" which uses a word coined in the 1920s.

Attacking religion is fine. It is essentially a choice. Attacking certain people's humanity? No thanks.

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CrippledLucifer
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:04 pm 
 

blackmantram wrote:
Wow, people, slow down, we're running out of metal bands to listen to...

Nah I think we're good.
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doomicus
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:09 pm 
 

It's pretty funny to me that people view House of Atreus as being on the same tier as Arghoslent in regards to songwriting and composition. House of Atreus have surface similarities, but their actual meat is very weak and lacks cohesion. The metalcore like production they use hasn't done them any favors either.

For those that are interested in an Arghoslent sounding band, without the racism and a unique identity all to their own, I suggest looking into Mi'Gauss.
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BastardHead
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:22 pm 
 

Nars and Grave wrote:
BastardHead wrote:
I love House of Atreus because they're Arghoslent without the sketch


Actually they're pretty fucking sketchy themselves and here's why:


That's all both news to me and genuinely disappointing. The only thing I'd ever really heard about them being shit dudes was a (frankly fucking awful) take along the lines of "Well if they sound so much like Arghoslent, then clearly they must be fans of the band, and by being fans and recreating their sound, that is tantamount to tacit support for their ideas." I hate slippery slope arguments but that really does leave the door open for every single black metal band on the planet supporting whatever awful cuckoo shit Varg says purely by virtue of Burzum releasing some of the most influential albums in the genre. I never really delved into their lyrics all that much but I certainly wouldn't question shitty stances being espoused there since they're writing about an ancient society with extremely outdated views, but if they've got a lingchi of small breadcrumbs that point to them being more into it than they initially come off, I'll definitely have to look into it more, and I'm super bummed that those breadcrumbs are there at all.

Guess I'll have to start my own fucking band if I want a band that sounds like this but doesn't say awful shit.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:02 pm 
 

Somehow, Arghoslent are the most similar band on Ares Kingdom's page. I don't know what the basis of comparison though since I've only listened to the latter.
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