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Speed Metal Terror
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:25 pm 
 

I assumed they had given up the ghost since they've been basically MIA for eons. Is it weird that I'm more intrigued by the coming interviews and wacky song titles than the new music itself? How many wordplay pretzels can you make about slavery?

Most bands that I hear recommended in their place are just as sketchy but are a lot more low key or less obvious.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:39 pm 
 

Speed Metal Terror wrote:
I assumed they had given up the ghost

I believe my pig whistles, this looks like one of those native German speakers who think they can translate figures of speech literally. That's really not the yellow of the egg, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:47 pm 
 

Wilytank wrote:
Somehow, Arghoslent are the most similar band on Ares Kingdom's page. I don't know what the basis of comparison though since I've only listened to the latter.


that's wrong because are's kingdom aren't unlistenably bad with dogshit production.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:22 am 
 

Why do Arghoslent hate black people? :(
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:53 am 
 

droneriot wrote:
Speed Metal Terror wrote:
I assumed they had given up the ghost

I believe my pig whistles, this looks like one of those native German speakers who think they can translate figures of speech literally. That's really not the yellow of the egg, though.

That's an idiom in English as well?

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From no less than the description of Christ's death in the King James Bible version of the Gospels in fact.

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Holy shit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:09 am 
 

doomicus wrote:
For those that are interested in an Arghoslent sounding band, without the racism and a unique identity all to their own, I suggest looking into Mi'Gauss.


Mi'Gauss fucking rule. Funnily I'd first heard their name dropped in another "bands similar to Arghoslent" thread; ordered the CD re-release some months ago and it's one of the best "just do it" purchases I ever did (didn't bother to sample their music first).

Wilytank wrote:
Somehow, Arghoslent are the most similar band on Ares Kingdom's page. I don't know what the basis of comparison though since I've only listened to the latter.


I enjoy both bands but don't hear such overt similarities at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:00 am 
 

theposega wrote:
Wilytank wrote:
Somehow, Arghoslent are the most similar band on Ares Kingdom's page. I don't know what the basis of comparison though since I've only listened to the latter.


that's wrong because are's kingdom aren't unlistenably bad with dogshit production.


Yeah Ares Kingdom is so much better. Mi'Gauss, too, if the song I tried at colin040's request was any indication. There are so many better bands than this bullshit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:56 pm 
 

Production aside, Ares Kingdom don't even sound that much like Arghoslent, so the fact that there are so many votes comparing the two confuses me.

With regard to House of Atreus: Arghoslent, for how awful their views are, are a thousand times better than House. No comparison in my book.

Arghoslent put me in a weird position because they have some fantastic songs and some of my favorite metal riffs ever, and yet their views are obviously terrible. It's easy to avoid listening to racist music when it's shitty bedroom black metal, a lot harder when the music is as good as Arghoslent's. I'll probably check out the new album anyway but avoid spending money on it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:47 pm 
 

Let us “duimen” (fingers crossed) that a new album will indeed be released this year by this awesome melodic DM band. Just put on Galloping through the battle ruins,now into the fourth song,and i already heard more good (and original) riffs and vocal lines than on the mentioned Necrot,Phrenelith,
Ares Kingdom and House of Atreus albums combined. And I like the latter two. Some of their lyrics might be tasteless to the PC crowd but overtly Nazi ,White Power or hateful they are not.

I stumbled over the debut in a local record store back when it was out for a few months or so. Never heard of the band before that day,not the band name nor the music. Didn’t know what to expect when i took it to the counter for a listen but was instantly hooked. The songs might not always flow so well on a first listen but the good riffs keep everything together. And the lyrics are no problem for me as i’m anything but a fan of the unlimited influx of non european immigrants and the Islamization of Western Europe.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:00 pm 
 

I'm a bit more concerned by the people saying Arghoslent's music is good than the people who are saying they don't mind that it is racist. What have we metalheads come to? :nono:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:02 pm 
 

Yeah no problem in say Africans have a flawed genome and Jews were predestined to the holocaust by the mark of Cain. As long as it gets rid of that pesky mosque with the people who attend it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:26 pm 
 

AuditaTremendi wrote:
Let us “duimen” (fingers crossed) that a new album will indeed be released this year by this awesome melodic DM band. Just put on Galloping through the battle ruins,now into the fourth song,and i already heard more good (and original) riffs and vocal lines than on the mentioned Necrot,Phrenelith,
Ares Kingdom and House of Atreus albums combined. And I like the latter two. Some of their lyrics might be tasteless to the PC crowd but overtly Nazi ,White Power or hateful they are not.

I stumbled over the debut in a local record store back when it was out for a few months or so. Never heard of the band before that day,not the band name nor the music. Didn’t know what to expect when i took it to the counter for a listen but was instantly hooked. The songs might not always flow so well on a first listen but the good riffs keep everything together. And the lyrics are no problem for me as i’m anything but a fan of the unlimited influx of non european immigrants and the Islamization of Western Europe.


Damn man, at least most fans of the band just don't go and start blaring the nazi airhorns within two paragraphs of talking about them!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:03 pm 
 

Mellifleur wrote:
I'm a bit more concerned by the people saying Arghoslent's music is good than the people who are saying they don't mind that it is racist. What have we metalheads come to? :nono:

Didn't you read the Carcass thread? Late 80s/early 90s Saturday morning cartoon theme songs with rapsy vocals is some people's idea of perfect death metal.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:07 pm 
 

idunnosomename wrote:
Yeah no problem in say Africans have a flawed genome and Jews were predestined to the holocaust by the mark of Cain. As long as it gets rid of that pesky mosque with the people who attend it.


They've long been grotesquely overpraised because the fashy bois were desperate to find a nazi metal band that wasn't a shit punk band in disguise.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:25 pm 
 

Mellifleur wrote:
I'm a bit more concerned by the people saying Arghoslent's music is good than the people who are saying they don't mind that it is racist. What have we metalheads come to? :nono:


Funniest thing is, we wouldn't have stupid comments like this if they weren't racists.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:35 pm 
 

I'm still waiting for some enlightened soul to point out to me exactly which GBK albums suck, and how I can hear these mystery albums which somehow are not a part of the official, public discography.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:41 pm 
 

GBK took a sharp nosedive into shit with "Judeobeast Assassination". That and everything after is bad. Everything before that is pretty good, imo. "Mocking the Philanthropist" is in that interesting liminal space between death and black and heavy metal that was also occupied by early Aeternus and some early Greek BM bands. There's something creative and free about the way they mix different styles of riffing together in a fun hodgepodge. From JA on they picked up the bonehead disease from listening to too many skrewdriver albums or something and started writing nothing but awkward clunkers and the lyrics of course got progressively worse.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:48 pm 
 

I've spend less time with Kosherat than Judeobeast but there are still plenty of good riffs. The lyrics are, of course, controversial but that's to be expected. The second track on J.A. actually reminds me of First Spell-era Gehenna in spots.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:06 pm 
 

GBK and Arghoslent both have incredible riffs so I'm pumped. Subject matter is problematic but I don't typically pay attention to extreme metal lyrics anyhow
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See what you did? Now I'm checking out this band. Not sure because people said they write riffs or are nazis. :P
P.S: (2008) Arghoslent - Hornets of the Pogrom sounds stupid.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:29 am 
 

Perhaps I should revisit Hornets; I remember it as rather underwhelming compared to the first two so I never gave it much attention.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:59 am 
 

Mellifleur wrote:
in that interesting liminal space between death and black and heavy metal

So it's something you could listen to instead of early Mystifier, but then you should question yourself why you aren't listening to Mystifier.
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blackmantram wrote:
Mellifleur wrote:
I'm a bit more concerned by the people saying Arghoslent's music is good than the people who are saying they don't mind that it is racist. What have we metalheads come to? :nono:


Funniest thing is, we wouldn't have stupid comments like this if they weren't racists.


Yep.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:56 am 
 

Mellifleur wrote:
GBK took a sharp nosedive into shit with "Judeobeast Assassination".


Mocking is their least best album. Don't know why that one's so praised.

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Mellifleur wrote:
I'm a bit more concerned by the people saying Arghoslent's music is good than the people who are saying they don't mind that it is racist. What have we metalheads come to? :nono:


Boy, that's rich coming from someone who thinks Inquisition is a good band.

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Absolutely stoked about this release, especially for the lyrics! :)

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Morton Salt wrote:
Mellifleur wrote:
I'm a bit more concerned by the people saying Arghoslent's music is good than the people who are saying they don't mind that it is racist. What have we metalheads come to? :nono:


Boy, that's rich coming from someone who thinks Inquisition is a good band.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:05 am 
 

ShaolinLambKiller wrote:
I can't wait for this release. House of Atreus doesn't hold a candle to sounding anywhere near them. I will be pre-ordering.


Same here mate, I'll be doing the same!

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BasqueStorm wrote:
P.S: (2008) Arghoslent - Hornets of the Pogrom sounds stupid.

Lord_Jotun wrote:
Perhaps I should revisit Hornets; I remember it as rather underwhelming compared to the first two so I never gave it much attention.

(1998) Arghoslent - Galloping Through the Battleruins (2005 Reissue) is not better. :scratch:

Ok, I see the riffs but this band sounds dull to me. :nono:
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Depends on the situation you're listening in. Arghoslent make great music for driving and lifting.

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Third_of_the_Storms wrote:
Depends on the situation you're listening in. Arghoslent make great music for driving and lifting.

Music sounds generic and not well done to me.
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I can understand the dull part, many bands might sound boring even if they're unique, Portal is the best example I can come up with, but generic? I don't see how it's generic when there aren't many bands playing that same style. Only bands I can think of would be the chasm or intestine baalism but then those are completely different approaches to the same goal.

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You know Demoniac, aka that horrible "powerblack" band that eventually became DragonForce?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jimOqnS3v-Y

You could seriously release that album as the new Arghoslent and most people wouldn't know the difference.

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MawBTS wrote:
You know Demoniac, aka that horrible "powerblack" band that eventually became DragonForce?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jimOqnS3v-Y

You could seriously release that album as the new Arghoslent and most people wouldn't know the difference.


So that is where this arghoslent = dragonforce meme comes from? In all honestly I don't see how those are even remotely close besides both being obviously influenced by heavy metal, it's like people comparing inquisition to immortal just for the vocals (damn, another inquisition reference in this thread, what are we gonna do?). That demoniac album is closer to COB or stormlord.

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MawBTS wrote:
You know Demoniac, aka that horrible "powerblack" band that eventually became DragonForce?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jimOqnS3v-Y

You could seriously release that album as the new Arghoslent and most people wouldn't know the difference.


Yeah, this sounds JUST LIKE Arghoslent :roll:
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The Dragonforce comparison started because of Kruel's review of Hornets of the Pogrom. He also had the infamous "DsO is Christian music because theistic satanism requires belief in God, ergo it's worthless as metal" review plus a much more forgotten one where he trashed the shit out of a Windir album mere days after hearing it for the first time and loving it because he found out in the interim that the kvlt stereotypes didn't like it. He was a tool that most people remember as such, but for whatever reason his Arghoslent = Dragonforce take stuck.
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It's like how some people on here used to say that any band that added even slightly more melody to their sound was comparable to mainstream Top 40 pop music. Just silly over-exaggerations.
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Don't quote me on it in case someone decides to get all Wayback Machine on me, but I'm almost certain that the extreme comparisons for Arghoslent's sound were from a time when the band was listed on the site as simply "death metal" and there was a very clear and strong dissonance between the expectations (you know, expecting death metal) and the music heard.

Not just on the site but overall back in the day people were talking about that "NS band playing death metal" and then you listen to it and it sure doesn't sound like Altars of Madness or Dark Recollections in any way so you're like wtf this sounds more like Dragonforce than death metal. Maybe West Wall formed just to play the music people were expecting when Arghoslent was described to them, but that's just a theory. :lol:
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