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SmallPoxie
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:40 am 
 

Songs that sound happy, upbeat and optimistic. But they are actually sad, depressing and pessimistic.
Here are 3 examples:

Lyrics meaning: A family who gets screwed financially, the husband decides to commit suicide by driving off a cliff and taking his family with him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBt3YVSK32E

Lyrics meaning: The murder of a 12 year old girl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcD_mo_fT1g

Lyrics meaning: Loneliness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuoiIqH3Ukg

Any more examples (Apart from the obvious "Pumped Up Kicks")?


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joppek
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:03 am 
 

the recent pop hit pumped up kicks is a pretty obvious example (about school shooting for those not up to speed on what the kids these days listen to)
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hallowed78
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:03 am 
 

A guy tries to conquer the world. Fails, dies young.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BH9HvZx3nI

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SmallPoxie
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:50 am 
 

joppek wrote:
the recent pop hit pumped up kicks is a pretty obvious example (about school shooting for those not up to speed on what the kids these days listen to)


Yeah, probably the most popular example

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funeralravens
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:29 am 
 

The music of Sentenced sounds way happier than their lyrics.

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HeavenDuff
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:44 pm 
 

joppek wrote:
the recent pop hit pumped up kicks is a pretty obvious example (about school shooting for those not up to speed on what the kids these days listen to)


Torches (the album on which Pumped Up Kicks is featured) came out in 2011. Not exactly recent and not exactly what the kids listen to these days. It's a great album though. Foster the People are probably the most relevant "pop" band out there right now. If you've not given a listen to their music beyond Pumped Up Kicks, I recommend going through their discography in chronological order, starting with Torches and following up with Supermodel and Sacred Hearts Club.

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LongRangeSpritz
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:34 pm 
 

Joy Division - Love will tear us apart
Sir Mix aLot - Baby's got Back

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blackmantram
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:45 pm 
 

Why was this opened in the metal discussion forum?

Anyway. Shakira has a song about a young couple facing an unplanned pregnancy that ended up in the girls' death after choosing abortion. Music-wise it sounds like your regular uplifting radio friendly pop tune.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:34 pm 
 

Joyless were masters of this post their first album.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:39 pm 
 

the intro theme song to the TV show Community is actually about killing yourself

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Bishop_Drugsalot
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:54 am 
 

wraithlike wrote:
the intro theme song to the TV show Community is actually about killing yourself

So very Dan Harmon-esque to make it the intro

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lordcatfish
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:27 am 
 

blackmantram wrote:
Why was this opened in the metal discussion forum?

Anyway. Shakira has a song about a young couple facing an unplanned pregnancy that ended up in the girls' death after choosing abortion. Music-wise it sounds like your regular uplifting radio friendly pop tune.

Just curious which song this is? I'm quite familiar with her catalogue, so I'm assuming one of her Spanish songs as I can't understand them :-P
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blackmantram
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:13 am 
 

lordcatfish wrote:
blackmantram wrote:
Why was this opened in the metal discussion forum?

Anyway. Shakira has a song about a young couple facing an unplanned pregnancy that ended up in the girls' death after choosing abortion. Music-wise it sounds like your regular uplifting radio friendly pop tune.

Just curious which song this is? I'm quite familiar with her catalogue, so I'm assuming one of her Spanish songs as I can't understand them :-P


Yes it's actually one of her first hits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvbNAPu9ERo

That album was huge back in 96 and that particular song was one of the main reasons. I remember it stirred some controversy, not many artists dared to sing about those subjects without facing censorship.

It's not hard to find an accurate translation: https://lyricstranslate.com/en/se-quier ... illed.html

The part in the chorus where she says "pero si a la hora del té nada pasa" can be better translated as "...but if after all nothing ever happens" instead of "...during tea time". In Colombia the expression "a la hora del té" means "in the end" or "after all".

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jimbies
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:58 am 
 

The first one that comes to mind every time I think of this scenario is Bruce Springsteen's "Hungry Heart".

I think the line "I took a wrong turn, and I just kept going" is very sad, but the second verse really hurts without the happy, upbeat music with those incredible vocal harmonies:

I met her in a Kingstown bar
We fell in love I knew it had to end
We took what we had and we ripped it apart
Now here I am down in Kingstown again

I'll think of a couple more later, but this is always my first answer.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:45 pm 
 

the smiths
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:21 pm 
 

Skyclad springs to mind. They usually play very upbeat and jovial folk metal but they have a very cynical and pessimistic view on politics and everyday life in their lyrics.

I find their music oddly therapeutic.
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hellhammer6661
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:27 am 
 

I know this is not metal band but I remember a music video of R.E.M. ´´shiny happy people ´´. They explained later they wanted to sound cynical with all that bombastic happiness but people thought ´´ is a happy song about happy feeling ´´.


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Hemwick
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:41 pm 
 

Shiny happy people is by R.E.M. by the way great song still.most of R.E.M.s' up beat songs are depressing lyrically

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hellhammer6661
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:45 pm 
 

Hemwick wrote:
Shiny happy people is by R.E.M. by the way great song still.most of R.E.M.s' up beat songs are depressing lyrically


My mistake I will edit that .

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Hemwick
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:03 pm 
 

All good I'm a R.E.M. so I was little confused at first haha.
On point R.E.M had the song Stand which is corny until you realize it is about our ignorance and destruction of nature. Our own ignorance has caused us to not know how use basic tools such as a compass. More relevant today.

I would even include Blind Faith Can't find my way home but the music itself is melancholic but that album is kinda upbeat especially the song Had To Cry Today. Ugh so good

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TheLoneForest
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:17 pm 
 

The Smiths (2)

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Smalley
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:40 pm 
 

The lyrics to Edge Of Sanity's "Black Tears" read like this...

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When I'm in this state of mind
I'm wishing I was blind. Sometimes life is
more than pain, to me
I feel the power of my grief. Death would be
such a relief. All the secrets that I hide
would die, with me.
Depression is my only friend. Will this
torture never end? Let me carry on to
the dreamers sky.
I keep crying in my dreams.
Can you hear my endless screams?
When I fade away I fade, away.

This Fluid on my cheek, it drains me
I get weak. My heart is cold and bleak.
Black blood. Black tears.

Life is like a masquerade. In debt to myself,
but I can't pay. Soon I'll call it all a day, away.
I've never felt what you call guilt.
I still believe "Do what thou wilt"
My sorrow will destroy the world I've built.


...while the actual song sounds like this:

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