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| Author: | BastardHead [ Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie Van Halen has died. |
I'm in total agreement with Acrobat. Yngwie is incredibly talented but he was always known for his ability to shred as opposed to his ability to write great songs, and he's totally correct that he's more the domain of guitar nerds while Hendrix and EVH were generation-defining across music as a whole. I feel like if I had heard Yngwie when I was a little kid, I would've thought he was super good at guitar but would've just gone back to playing Sega whenever it was over. Hendrix, on the other hand, is the reason I even like music in the first place, ya know? |
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| Author: | Wrldeatr [ Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:34 pm ] |
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I never got much into Van Halen either. And frankly I don't dig Eddie's playing at all--composition-wise. But I do value his influence, not just when it comes to technique but his innovative spirit; the fact that he tinkered with every aspect of his sound and his gear. And of course his contribution to creating the awesome Peavey 5150. |
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| Author: | Turner [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:03 am ] |
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Yeah I think the existence of the 5150/6505 should also be mentioned - the sheer number of fucking cool albums that amp has been used on. Funnily enough, most of the albums I can think of off the top of my head that had 5150s were way heavier than VH. Burn my Eyes, Necroticism/Heartwork, pretty much ALL gothenburg albums in the late 90s, etc etc. |
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| Author: | Face_your_fear_79 [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:29 am ] |
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BastardHead I have always wondered what your opinion of Hendrix was. Its interesting to me that you are quite an admirer. Good for you. And EVH is in the conversation for me. |
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| Author: | Empyreal [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:57 am ] |
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I've been playing a lot of Van Halen the last week or so. Sad to say I didn't know a lot of this stuff before. 'Women and Children First' is a beast of an album. |
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| Author: | Dark_Gnat [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:15 am ] |
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If I had to describe Van Halen to someone who had never heard them, I would tell them this... Van Halen is a metal band that plays pop rock songs. I would say their first four albums are their best. Diver Down is good, but it's mostly a covers album. 1984 is when the band changed their sound. Eddie started using a different tone, and Mike's bass is barely audible. 5150 isn't really that different musically. Obviously it sounds different with Sammy, but VH was already morphing into synth-heavy pop, which lacked the attitude and sense of "danger" that their earlier albums had. The first 4 would have pissed off your parents, but 1984 onwards was something your parents would listen to. I think they recaptured some of that danger with For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, but it didn't last. I do think Sammy was a better vocalist than Dave, but Dave was a better front man. He was/is a showman through and through. He's the kind of guy who grins at himself when he sees his reflection in a window. (I'm not kidding.) He simply knew how to entertain the crowds in a way that few others, including legendary singers of other bands could. And frankly, I think VH's music was better with him in the band. They just had better songs. The rest of the band fed off his energy. Granted, they were also younger and hungrier in those days. That said, I think the first Montrose album should be in every metalheads collection. I also like a lot of Sammy's solo efforts. He's also a pretty good guitarist, and VH should have employed that ability more when he was with the band. Gary Cherone was not a good fit. He sounds like he was doing a Sammy impersonation, and it just didn't work. I can only wonder what would they would have sounded like if Mitch Malloy stayed with them... https://youtu.be/Onq13w9Jqoo |
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| Author: | Ace_Rimmer [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie Van Halen has died. |
Empyreal wrote: I've been playing a lot of Van Halen the last week or so. Sad to say I didn't know a lot of this stuff before. 'Women and Children First' is a beast of an album. I think its the epitome of DLR era Van Halen. You have crushing metallic riffage, acoustic pieces, guitar wizardry, and all dripping with that classic Van Halen attitude and Roth delivery. Hands down my favorite VH album. |
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| Author: | ~Guest 2944 [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:59 pm ] |
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I really enjoy all of the DLR era material. My personal favorite is 1984. I like some Sammy era stuff, but DLR was Van Halen to me. A lot of nostalgia associated with 1984 for me. If you were alive in the early 1980s and were into music you would know there was nothing like Eddie on guitar at the time. Well at least not in the mainstream. He didn't invent tapping, tremlo picking, whammy bar dives or hammering on and off notes while turning the volume knob up and down, but he put his own unique spin on all of them. He was ahead of his time, at least for doing different things on guitar never done before the way he did them. I believe he was an amazing player, but there is always someone who will disagree. |
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| Author: | Empyreal [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie Van Halen has died. |
Ace_Rimmer wrote: Empyreal wrote: I've been playing a lot of Van Halen the last week or so. Sad to say I didn't know a lot of this stuff before. 'Women and Children First' is a beast of an album. I think its the epitome of DLR era Van Halen. You have crushing metallic riffage, acoustic pieces, guitar wizardry, and all dripping with that classic Van Halen attitude and Roth delivery. Hands down my favorite VH album. Yeah, I'm digging the debut (which was really the only one I knew in full) for the kind of raw, youthful energy and 1984 as well as a more commercial take on the sound, but Women and Children First just has a lot more complexity and richness; you can tell that was a band at its early peak. |
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| Author: | Twisted_Psychology [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:41 pm ] |
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Looks like I can go ahead and put myself on the Women and Children First is best bandwagon as well. I'm gonna be revisiting the Van Hagar albums tomorrow so I guess I'll be seeing if my lukewarm feelings on those will change at all. Also planning to check out III sometime this week along with the classic Extreme albums. It's always fun to have proper context. |
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| Author: | CoconutBackwards [ Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie Van Halen has died. |
As of right now: Best DLR album: Van Halen II Best Hagar: 5150 |
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| Author: | Ace_Rimmer [ Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:21 am ] |
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Empyreal wrote: Ace_Rimmer wrote: Empyreal wrote: I've been playing a lot of Van Halen the last week or so. Sad to say I didn't know a lot of this stuff before. 'Women and Children First' is a beast of an album. I think its the epitome of DLR era Van Halen. You have crushing metallic riffage, acoustic pieces, guitar wizardry, and all dripping with that classic Van Halen attitude and Roth delivery. Hands down my favorite VH album. Yeah, I'm digging the debut (which was really the only one I knew in full) for the kind of raw, youthful energy and 1984 as well as a more commercial take on the sound, but Women and Children First just has a lot more complexity and richness; you can tell that was a band at its early peak. The debut is close and its their heaviest and most aggressive, but Van Halen was a lot more than just hard rock/borderline metal. Eddie was a great player of softer acoustic stuff like Could this be Magic which was just as much core to the Van Halen experience as Running with the Devil. |
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| Author: | Empyreal [ Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie Van Halen has died. |
"Could This Be Magic" had some real old school Americana campfire vibes that I dig. Was nice to play on the road while driving yesterday. I always like that kind of real throwback stuff. |
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| Author: | Dark_Gnat [ Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:39 pm ] |
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I believe Dave also played acoustic guitar on that song. |
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| Author: | Dungeon_Vic [ Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:57 am ] |
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Re: Malmsteen Agree to disagree I guess. But I have to insist a bit, out of frustration mostly! Don't listen to these guys kids, Yngwie is awesome! ![]() Personally, I listen to Yngwie for the songwriting mostly and I stand by my statement regarding his riffs and songs. I don't play guitar even though I do enjoy tasteful shredders and Malmsteen is definitely one of them in his peak. But overall, it's the pure, heavy/power metal awesomeness in the albums - and his hard rocking side is great too (You Don't Remeeeeembeer...!). I think you (Acrobat/BastardHead) are both underestimating his songwriting. I Am a Viking or Disciples of Hell are just cracking heavy metal songs. And there are plenty more, including some classic instrumentals like Black Star or Far Beyond the Sun. Also, I think Yngwie's contribution to metal has not been appreciated enough (nor how METAL his music actually was). IMO, he is the most significant piece along with Helloween for the definition of the european power metal sound. The Trilogy suite is half Stratovarius' career (and a masterpiece to boot). Finally, just throwing this out there, Odyssey is one spectacular power metal album. Chock full of riffs too. KRAKATAU, such an apt title! Conversely, while I truly appreciate what Hendrix brought in the world, being the archetype of the rock guitar hero and the sheer new energy he brought on stage, his music was never particularly appealing to me to be honest, some songs are alright I guess. |
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| Author: | Twisted_Psychology [ Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:35 am ] |
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I don't think anybody is downplaying Malmsteen's talents, he had a revolutionary technique with some brilliant tracks and albums to his name. It's just that he has ZERO appeal to normies compared to Van Halen and Hendrix. It isn't really a good or bad thing, it just is. I listened to all four Van Hagar albums yesterday morning. I liked For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge and 5150 but got underwhelmed by OU812 and Balance. As neat as the style can get, they were pretty much a greatest hits band at that point with an absolutely brilliant album hidden in a sea of filler. I'm gonna be trying out III today to see if it's as crap as I hear. |
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| Author: | Empyreal [ Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:43 am ] |
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I tried 5150 the other night myself... I can dig Hagar's voice a lot; he has the kind of high, silky tone I like from 80s rock singers. The music isn't as explosive but is still quite good and you can hear the chops. The title song is killer. |
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| Author: | Dungeon_Vic [ Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:34 am ] |
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Twisted_Psychology wrote: I don't think anybody is downplaying Malmsteen's talents, he had a revolutionary technique with some brilliant tracks and albums to his name. It's just that he has ZERO appeal to normies compared to Van Halen and Hendrix. It isn't really a good or bad thing, it just is. Sorry to insist but I think it was explicitly stated that he is a great shredder and significant guitarist but not a good songwriter. Which I disagree vehemently with. And I would be willing to bet that a lot of normies would very much appreciate some of his songs if they were exposed to them. The fact that Hendrix and VH appeal to normies more, means nothing to me personally, I mean of course VH will be more popular, they wrote pop hard rock songs as opposed to shreddy HEAVY and POWER METAL like Malmsteen. Sabaton appeals to normies more than Savatage too. Irrelevant to the discussion though. I would be willing to bet VH has sold significantly more than most, including Hendrix by the way. |
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| Author: | CoconutBackwards [ Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:49 am ] |
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Twisted_Psychology wrote: I don't think anybody is downplaying Malmsteen's talents, he had a revolutionary technique with some brilliant tracks and albums to his name. It's just that he has ZERO appeal to normies compared to Van Halen and Hendrix. It isn't really a good or bad thing, it just is. I listened to all four Van Hagar albums yesterday morning. I liked For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge and 5150 but got underwhelmed by OU812 and Balance. As neat as the style can get, they were pretty much a greatest hits band at that point with an absolutely brilliant album hidden in a sea of filler. I'm gonna be trying out III today to see if it's as crap as I hear. I liked Van Halen III when it came out, but I was admittedly knee deep in EVH obsession and when I go back to it now I have no desire to try to discover anything new. I don’t know if anyone gives a shit, but I found a guy on YouTube that does incredible note for note Van Halen covers and he did “Without You” which is amazing to watch: https://youtu.be/78ZqwxJ1Zps If you liked this he has a ton of other VH covers and I am angrily jealous at his guitar playing abilities. |
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| Author: | Acrobat [ Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:31 pm ] |
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Dungeon_Vic wrote: Twisted_Psychology wrote: I don't think anybody is downplaying Malmsteen's talents, he had a revolutionary technique with some brilliant tracks and albums to his name. It's just that he has ZERO appeal to normies compared to Van Halen and Hendrix. It isn't really a good or bad thing, it just is. Sorry to insist but I think it was explicitly stated that he is a great shredder and significant guitarist but not a good songwriter. Which I disagree vehemently with. And I would be willing to bet that a lot of normies would very much appreciate some of his songs if they were exposed to them. The fact that Hendrix and VH appeal to normies more, means nothing to me personally, I mean of course VH will be more popular, they wrote pop hard rock songs as opposed to shreddy HEAVY and POWER METAL like Malmsteen. Sabaton appeals to normies more than Savatage too. Irrelevant to the discussion though. I would be willing to bet VH has sold significantly more than most, including Hendrix by the way. Ah, yes, Yngwie would never stoop to writing anything trite or poppy, would he? Definitely, he wouldn't put some sub-DLR solo stuff meets pop-Rainbow on his albums? Also, I'm still not over the fact that you've said that Yng is more significant to electric guitar playing than Hendrix or EVH. ![]() |
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| Author: | Dungeon_Vic [ Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:53 am ] |
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Hey, hold up, I never said that what VH was playing was shameful because it was poppy, I merely said that it is absolutely normal for pop music to be more appealing to the masses than heavy metal, let alone shreddy heavy metal. Hence, I find the argument about "normie appeal" to be irrelevant to the discussion as a token of VH's superiority. Heaven Tonight is a fine 80s hard rock song, obviously not my favorite from the album (Riot in the Dungeons, Krakatau, Rising Force, Deja Vu, etc) and likewise Fire and Ice and Eclipse while fine albums in their own right are not my particular cup of tea and prefer Seventh Sign for example more. As for his place in electric guitar history, I don't think most people will find my assertion that funny ("his significance for the instrument is just as important as the names mentioned - if not more") but I guess it is up for debate. What is not up for debate imo, is the first part of the statement. He absolutely belongs in that company. |
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| Author: | Acrobat [ Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:13 pm ] |
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Thing is, I do really think he doesn't belong in that company. He belongs - as he tours - alongside the likes of Vai and Satriani. Yngwie is a monster player and one who, contrary to Opus's claims, I do like. But compared to EVH his influence on metal is still quite limited (neo-classical, sweep picking, super fast alternate picking stuff) and his influence is mostly on the lead guitarists of this world (the bands that borrow a lot from his playing usually are relegated to the Euro power end of the spectrum, hence often not very good, although it must be said that Yng influenced some incredible stuff like Helstar). Furthermore, I will say that a lot of people did have to sit up and pay attention when Yngwie started playing the way he did... it was Roth and Blackmore taken to a new level (albeit, on closer inspection, a far worse level ). Van Halen's contributions to the electric guitar dwarf Yngwie's. Of that, there really is no argument. Everyone always mentions the tapping and the divebombs but his rhythms influenced most of 80's metal, he's arguably one of the guys doing the percussive, chugging stuff first (or at least more consistently), his tone is definitely a massive evolutionary lead towards the tighter, more distorted modern metal sound (hence, everyone and their cousin having a modded Marshall in the 80s). His leads were not only expressive but truly playful and vibrant - they spoke, they talked, they showed people that weird noises have their place in music... he - like Hendrix - changed the face of electric guitar playing and EVERYONE sat up and paid attention. And he kept their attention, whereas Yng - as good as he is - was a guy who popularised some techniques but never, ever had anywhere near the impact that EVH did. |
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| Author: | Ace_Rimmer [ Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:36 pm ] |
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What he said. |
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| Author: | Gemini 7 Rising [ Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:04 pm ] |
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Yeah, trying to compare Yngwie to Eddie VH is kind of like trying to put Matthew McConaughey in the same league as Marlon Brando. |
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| Author: | Dungeon_Vic [ Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:31 pm ] |
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I think you are grossly underestimating Yngwie's impact but that's OK. The sweeps and the neoclassical stuff are by themselves enough to place him in the pantheon but I think it is the overall package that combines these in the lightning speed (next level) that made everyone playing the guitar and had a remote connection to harder sounds shut up and listen. The guitar no longer sounded the same. The bar was raised way higher than it was ever raised before. A different instrument. Like I've said before (here!), you need EVH and Yngwie and you basically get all modern guitar playing derived just from those two. This is something I have discussed time and time again with soooo many people of the era, totally unrelated people from all over the world. I mean you are saying his influence was on the lead guitarists of this world. Dude, like, this is HUGE by itself. I think it's unfair to limit his influence to Yngwie clones (which there are so many still) and euro power (which is an entire subgenre, add also "shredding", two subgenres, one man), while in practice it was pretty much everyone playing guitar seriously. I will not take away anything from EVH's influence as you described it but I will continue to put Yngwie next to him. I also came across this and I wanted to applaud, so I'll just paste it: Source some music business guy at quora wrote: “How significant is Yngwie Malmsteen”?
It would be hard to overstate his significance. He completely changed rock guitar as we knew it when he made his debut in the early 80s. It was a time when there were two guitarists every hard rock or heavy metal guitarist was trying to play like: Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhoads. They had both set a new standard for playing and then when Yngwie emerged on the scene, everything changed. He was playing the electric guitar in a way nobody had done before. He raised the bar for what was considered to be state the art technique. Randy Rhoads had added some classical influence to heavy metal but Yngwie Malmsteen used classical music not just as an embellishment to standard heavy metal, but as the foundation for it. His list of influences contained more classical composers than rock guitarists. He somehow managed to combine classical type melodies with the aggression and attitude of rock. This is him in 1983 with the band Alcatrazz, with Graham Bonnet who had been Ritchie Blackmore’s vocalist in Rainbow. This type of playing was unprecedented then. His tone, the clarity, his vibrato, his precision, the complete authority he has over the guitar, combined with an innate sense of stage presence only the best of the best ever have are all evident here at only 19 years age: The next year he quit Alcatrazz and released his solo debut album. Within a year of the release of his first solo album- Rising Force - if you were a hard rock or heavy metal guitarist, and I was, you couldn’t go anywhere without hearing guitarists talk about him. A lot of people have written one or two hit songs, or have a few successful albums, but how many have actually changed the way people play the electric guitar? Jimi Hendrix did. Eddie Van Halen did, and then Yngwie did. It wasn’t just a style of music but a whole way of looking at playing the instrument that he changed. In the 1980s the only guitarist from the past who remained as big of an influence as he had been in the 70s in hard rock and heavy metal was Eddie Van Halen. Yngwie Malmsteen and Eddie Van Halen were the two most influential rock guitarists of the 1980s. They were the two players most people wanted to emulate. You could to any hard rock/metal club and hear bands with their lead guitarists trying to sound like Eddie or Yngwie. Even on the albums of bands with major record label deals, you could hear a difference in the playing. It’s what people tend to call “shredding” or playing with a state of the art technique. Bands were replacing their lead guitarists to get players who were keeping up with what what the new standard for playing guitar. If you were stuck in the past, if you still had 70s technique in the 80s, you got left behind. Here is one of Yngwie Malmsteen’s best known songs: “Black Star” from the album Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force. It was his opportunity to play the type of music he wanted without having to fit into someone else’s band. This was released in March of 1984 when Yngwie was only 20 years old. It is the album that changed electric guitar playing forever. A new standard was set. The result was a tremendous number of players trying to emulate Yngwie Malmsteen. Not surprisingly, Yngwie and Eddie Van Halen were the two guys you were most likely to see on the cover of guitar magazines in the 80s.There were players who did manage to learn to do some of what he did, but one of the things they always lacked was the vibrato Yngwie has. His sense of freedom on the instrument, his complete sense of mastery over the electric guitar by 1984 standards was unparalled before he was even old enough to legally buy a beer. How does somebody accomplish that? Here’s a brief explanation of that. Yngwie talks a little about his upbringing in Sweden, what caused him to move here at 18, and how quickly that changed his career: Other players play solos they have rehearsed hundreds or thousands of times, but Yngwie improvises his solos. You could have followed him around every night and you’d never hear him play his solos the same way twice. He wasn’t just playing something he’d memorized; he was creating music spontaneously. His tone and vibrato alone are instantly recognizable. People have a harder time emulating those things than they do playing his music, which is saying a lot because it is not easy music to play. There are people who learned how to play the notes, but they still didn’t sound like him. All the greats have their own distinguishable sound and it sets them apart form everyone else. If you’re great, people can recognize the sound of your playing immediately. Only a few have that and Yngwie Malmsteen is one of them. A lot of people tried to copy what he did, to the point a whole new term for that style of rock guitar playing was invented - “neoclassical.” It’s hard rock or heavy metal with a heavy classical influence. He has always wanted to play that type of music and that’s what he has always done. He’s one of the few hard rock/heavy metal musicians whom I’ve never once heard anyone accuse them of “selling out.” He follows no trends and makes no compromises. There have been many, many imitators, but like anything else, the innovator, the original is always the best. |
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| Author: | Empyreal [ Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie Van Halen has died. |
Dungeon_Vic wrote: Re: Malmsteen Agree to disagree I guess. But I have to insist a bit, out of frustration mostly! Don't listen to these guys kids, Yngwie is awesome! ![]() Personally, I listen to Yngwie for the songwriting mostly and I stand by my statement regarding his riffs and songs. I don't play guitar even though I do enjoy tasteful shredders and Malmsteen is definitely one of them in his peak. But overall, it's the pure, heavy/power metal awesomeness in the albums - and his hard rocking side is great too (You Don't Remeeeeembeer...!). I think you (Acrobat/BastardHead) are both underestimating his songwriting. I Am a Viking or Disciples of Hell are just cracking heavy metal songs. And there are plenty more, including some classic instrumentals like Black Star or Far Beyond the Sun. Also, I think Yngwie's contribution to metal has not been appreciated enough (nor how METAL his music actually was). IMO, he is the most significant piece along with Helloween for the definition of the european power metal sound. The Trilogy suite is half Stratovarius' career (and a masterpiece to boot). Finally, just throwing this out there, Odyssey is one spectacular power metal album. Chock full of riffs too. KRAKATAU, such an apt title! Conversely, while I truly appreciate what Hendrix brought in the world, being the archetype of the rock guitar hero and the sheer new energy he brought on stage, his music was never particularly appealing to me to be honest, some songs are alright I guess. Not being familiar with Malmsteen, I tried "I am a Viking" and is this really one of his better songs? Can't say it's bad or anything but it didn't really excite me aside from being able to appreciate the guitar/vocal proficiency. The writing seemed a bit dull to me. |
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| Author: | ~Guest 2944 [ Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:31 am ] |
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Did everyone see the story that Steve Perry of Journey was offered to come jam with VH after DLR left? https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/steve-perry-explains-why-he-turned-down-eddie-van-halens-invitation-to-jam-after-david-lee-roth-left-van-halen/ |
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| Author: | CoconutBackwards [ Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:11 am ] |
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I always love hearing stories about that era. I don't remember ever hearing anything about this tour, or an incident involving guacamole (and Steve Perry more than likely crying). |
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| Author: | Metal Shark [ Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:42 am ] |
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MiamiJustice wrote: You asked about dokken songs, well I learned the Dream Warriors solo by Dokken, so you love that song and so do I- This is my absolute favorite solo of ALL TIME: Patricia Arquette is like "What a great solo!" until Freddie Krueger steals him away. Dokken were great! Back for the Attack is the album of theirs I'd recommend the most, for anyone looking to give them a try. It's a longer-than-normal (for the 80's) album, but it's great! Don was a great singer. Mr Scary is one of the few instrumentals I absolutely love! |
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| Author: | ZenoMarx [ Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:07 am ] |
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I've looked around but can't find anything bigger. Anyone have a large image of this photo? I believe this is from the 1984 tour, judging by his pants. Speaker wall riding. Both Van Halens were athletes. https://i2.wp.com/farm1.static.flickr.c ... 830b99.jpg |
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| Author: | wEEman33 [ Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:08 pm ] |
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For the Yngwie newcomers or for anyone who thinks he was just a shredder who couldn't write good songs give this playlist a couple of listens over the weekend and then check back in on Monday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFt6M6Z ... XKOGkDd73h I'd actually argue that the instrumental tracks tended to be Yngwie's worst compositions and that his brightest musical moments came when he had a full backing band and a soaring singer to compliment his extravagant playing. IMO the biggest issue that kept Yngwie from achieving more mainstream success wasn't his playing style, it was the bad recording quality in his early run of '80s records, which contain the majority of his classic tracks. By the time that he was able to afford a more professional sound on his records (the '90s) he had already written 90% of the songs that would come to define his career and shape his influence on rock & metal music. |
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| Author: | Metal Shark [ Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:39 am ] |
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Acrobat wrote: Poppy or not, I love that song! Yngwies first (solo) album was VERY iffy, but the next three (Marching Out, Trilogy, Odyssey) were GREAT. It's a mix after those. It helps to have GREAT SINGERS which he did, early on. for bonus Yngwie, find the S/T STEELER album, and the first ALCATRAZZ album, "No Parole from Rock 'n' Roll"! |
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| Author: | Metal Shark [ Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:47 am ] |
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" This was released in March of 1984 when Yngwie was only 20 years old" JEZUS! He'd already been in two (signed) bands, on two records! Too bad Joe Lynn Turner didn't stay in Yngwie's band longer, he's a great singer! Am I the only person who thinks there should be a Joe Lynn Turner tribute band called Joe Lynn Turner Overdrive? |
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| Author: | CoconutBackwards [ Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:08 am ] |
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ZenoMarx wrote: I've looked around but can't find anything bigger. Anyone have a large image of this photo? I believe this is from the 1984 tour, judging by his pants. Speaker wall riding. Both Van Halens were athletes. https://i2.wp.com/farm1.static.flickr.c ... 830b99.jpg This is a great photo. I need this shit blown up and hanging on a wall. |
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| Author: | CoconutBackwards [ Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:36 pm ] |
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This was gifted to me: https://imgur.com/a/mWj9Q8t |
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| Author: | CoconutBackwards [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie Van Halen has died. |
https://youtu.be/nP6nKTu6TGY I've been listening to this in honor of the year anniversary. My Van Halen listening has finally tapered off from the total engulfment I experienced when I heard he died. |
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| Author: | 299796kms [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie Van Halen has died. |
Can't believe it's been one year. |
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| Author: | Prattlehead [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie Van Halen has died. |
ZenoMarx wrote: I've looked around but can't find anything bigger. Anyone have a large image of this photo? I believe this is from the 1984 tour, judging by his pants. Speaker wall riding. Both Van Halens were athletes. https://i2.wp.com/farm1.static.flickr.c ... 830b99.jpg Pretty sure that's the Diver Down tour, 1982 or 1983. In black and white that looks like his 1984 yellow and black tour pants but I'm almost certain the picture shows Eddie wearing one of the red and white pairs of overalls. |
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