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Eradicatedseraphim
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:37 am 
 

If you’ve listened to the music long enough you’ve probably encountered a few bands you’re not fond of. On the off chance you’ve gone back and listened to their discography, what was an album that you actually didn’t mind listening to or actually enjoyed? What songs or reason makes you like the album more than the other albums in the bands discography? Is it an album you occasionally listen too or enjoy actively?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:54 am 
 

I really loved Zyklons World of Worms. It felt unique at the time with its industrial sounding black metal. The two other albums treaded into the stable but boring death metal territory for me.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:44 pm 
 

Antithesis by Origin is one of my all-time favorite death metal albums, in a band I otherwise find kind of dull. I also don't like technical death metal in general, I was very young when Antithesis came out and I first listened to it, and it didn't influence my overall taste in metal very much, maybe because I then checked out their earlier material and hated it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:55 pm 
 

I don't know what the x factor is, but i absolutely adore Fear Factory's Demanufacture. The weird thing is that everything i tried by them other than that album fails to stick with me, despite having a lot of similarities. When i was a teen the concept was the thing that sparked my interest, but now i just enjoy the songs of that album way more than every other

Also Mastodon's Blood Mountain is a huge favorite of mine, but the only other record i've been able to sit trough is their ep Cold Dark Place. The earlier ones to don't grab me in the same way and i can't stand most of the later output, but those two balance well their incredible creativity with focused songwriting


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:57 pm 
 

Down - Nola. Good record, don't like aything else by the band, not saying it is bad, it just doesn't do anything for me. I would rather listen to COC or Crowbar.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:02 pm 
 

Morn Of Solace wrote:
Also Mastodon's Blood Mountain is a huge favorite of mine, but the only other record i've been able to sit trough is their ep Cold Dark Place. The earlier ones to don't grab me in the same way and i can't stand most of the later output, but those two balance well their incredible creativity with focused songwriting


Same here; Blood Mountain was cool and had some nice chunky riffs but I've never been able to get into either their older or newer stuff that I heard.

Iced Earth's Burnt Offerings is one. That one actually had a real density and complexity to the riffs and writing, and the songs sounded cool as fuck. Everything else after was dumbed down and lamer.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:07 pm 
 

Marduk I find pretty dull in general. Sortof the Motorhead of Black Metal.

Panzer Division Marduk has a special place in my heart, though. The production is just off enough, Legion's vocals are fried, it's a British tank on the original cover, and the movie snippets were getting trite by '99. I still think it's one of their best simply via being different in enough small ways :D
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:09 pm 
 

Nachtmystium is the first one that came to mind for me, definitely fits the thread topic:

I don't care much for their early music, okay black metal that isn't extraordinary by any means, almost everything else I've heard from them is extremely "meh" to the point where it becomes genuinely confusing how this dude ripped so many people off...like how did so many people actually care enough to buy something...

...and then it all makes sense because Assassins is fucking UNREAL in a way that is so hard to describe. It's drug rock with super catchy drums that are constantly on point, It's melodic in a completely different way than black metal type stuff usually is, it's got energy, it's got emotion, the "junkie sing-moaning in the heat of withdrawal" vocals actually work incredibly well where on literally any other album they'd sound terrible...

I by no means ever want to directly support Blake Judd, especially because his scammy behavior is likely just how he is and not entirely the product of addiction (as is noted by the guy from Krieg here, good read if you have a minute), but holy fuck am I ever glad I found Assassins at a used CD store maybe four or five years back. It may be one of my most listened to albums in that timespan. I try to kick the habit but just keep coming back to it! (maybe that was the goal?)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:20 pm 
 

I'm sure you can probably imagine bands whose music you used to love, but then you outgrew them save for 1 album that either has nostalgia for you, or in general is just better quality.

Or those old school death metal and black metal bands who have that 1 album that's fucking solid, and then the rest kinda blows for whatever reason.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:24 pm 
 

I've listened to Annihilation of the Wicked at least once a week for a few months, and it's one of my favorite tech death metal albums of all time, but aside from a few tracks scattered across their other albums, I can't for the life of me truly enjoy any other Nile record as much. I really want to be able to though.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:40 pm 
 

The first album that came to mind is Dark Throne's Soulside Journey. I'm not really into lo-fi black metal, so their later albums don't interest me, but that debut is basically blackened Swedish death metal, and that whole scene has fascinated me for a long time, so it's a case of early installment weirdness that I absolutely approve of.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:48 pm 
 

Marduk - Plague Angel - I cannot for the life of me get into this band, save for this record (and one or two more songs). Hiring Mortuus and the new aesthetic direction of the album are what makes me enjoy it.

Watain - Casus Luciferi - I was a huge fan of this album back in the day, but I haven't enjoyed a single album since then. To me they are one of the most boring musical acts in the scene. I like pretty much every thing the band does except the music, which is a shame.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:52 pm 
 

Hmmmm.... yeah, there's definitely a few of these for me:

Emperor - In The Nightside Eclipse
Unquestionably a stone cold, black metal classic but I've never been able to get into the band's other albums. Not even Anthems.

Sentenced - Shadows of the Past
Top tier old school death metal album. Everything after this, hard pass.

Entombed - Left Hand Path
Clandestine is okay, but I'll never listen to it over LHP when I'm in the mood for Entombed. The death n' roll / groove stuff they got into after this ranges from mediocre at best to terrible.

Megadeth - Rust In Peace
I hate Megadeth but RIP is great. Nuff said.

Cattle Decapitation - Monolith of Inhumanity
Spectacular album but everything by the band before or since just does nothing for me. Their early gore-grind stuff is largely just plain boring. The Harvest Floor was when they began showing some promise, but they weren't quite there yet. Monolith is when the band nailed it and then starting with The Anthropocene Extinction they started falling into a bland, predictable formula which they've continued on with their most recent album.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:55 pm 
 

From a top of my head:

Amon Amarth: "Once Sent From The Golden Hall". Their rock solid debut and the only one I can stomach, no scratch that, I LOVE IT! After that it's all too happy and melodic for my liking.

Bal Sagoth: "A Black Moon Broods Over Lemuria". Another awesome debut! But regrettably their switch to that sympho-thing almost left me in tears many many years ago.

Rotting Christ: "Thy Mighty Contract". I absolutely can't stand anything they've released since. Way too Greek for me. In fact, this and Necromantia "Scarlet Witching Black" are the only two lonely souls from that country that get regular spins.

Samael: "Ceremony Of Opposites" Brings the tears to my eyes at how much promise they've had. In fact to these days still top 10 BM album as far as I am concerned.

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Morn Of Solace
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:00 pm 
 

RapeTheDead wrote:
Nachtmystium is the first one that came to mind for me, definitely fits the thread topic:

I don't care much for their early music, okay black metal that isn't extraordinary by any means, almost everything else I've heard from them is extremely "meh" to the point where it becomes genuinely confusing how this dude ripped so many people off...like how did so many people actually care enough to buy something...

...and then it all makes sense because Assassins is fucking UNREAL in a way that is so hard to describe. It's drug rock with super catchy drums that are constantly on point, It's melodic in a completely different way than black metal type stuff usually is, it's got energy, it's got emotion, the "junkie sing-moaning in the heat of withdrawal" vocals actually work incredibly well where on literally any other album they'd sound terrible...

I by no means ever want to directly support Blake Judd, especially because his scammy behavior is likely just how he is and not entirely the product of addiction (as is noted by the guy from Krieg here, good read if you have a minute), but holy fuck am I ever glad I found Assassins at a used CD store maybe four or five years back. It may be one of my most listened to albums in that timespan. I try to kick the habit but just keep coming back to it! (maybe that was the goal?)


Good one! I was unimpressed by their material i heard, and the Blake chronicles were the final nail to the coffin. Then one day a friend of mine lend it to me, praising it a lot. I've enjoyed what i heard and the trippy atmosphere was really interesting.

USBM related, I was wondering why Judas Iscariot was so praised until i've heard Heaven in Flames. After that i've blindly bought some of his albums and i've ended up selling them all, the quality of the riffs and the synths on that album are unmatched to me :(

Weird to me to see the Marduk mentions: Panzer is very divisive as usual, but i've always tought that Heaven Shall Burn and Opus Nocturne were very beloved

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:14 pm 
 

Therion's first three albums are OK, but I really like Lemuria/Sirius B.

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Sadistic Symphony is the only Vicious Rumors album I like.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:30 pm 
 

Not sure if this really counts because they only have three records, but Demons & Wizards. The first album is an absolute classic to me. One of my favourite power metal albums of all time. The next two have a combination of about 5 songs I like.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:43 pm 
 

in_the_sign_of_metal wrote:
I've listened to Annihilation of the Wicked at least once a week for a few months, and it's one of my favorite tech death metal albums of all time, but aside from a few tracks scattered across their other albums, I can't for the life of me truly enjoy any other Nile record as much. I really want to be able to though.

That's weird because all their albums are pretty similar. Those Whom the Gods Detest may as well be Annihilation of the Wicked 2.0.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:50 pm 
 

Inquisition generally blows, and that was before the whole porn thing. But Into the Infernal Regions of the Ancient Cult is a great album.

Carpathian Forest also sucks, but Black Shining Leather had some good moments.

You'll hate me for this, but Bolt Thrower was only good on the first two albums. In Battle is cool, Realm of Chaos actually sounds like chaos. After that it's just the same plod for endless centuries of battle or whatever.

Pantera sucks, but I like a good bit of Cowboys from Hell. It still has the same macho bullshit as the other Phil albums, but what little class they had still showed up on this one. And Phil could still sing at that time.

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Gravetemplar wrote:
That's weird because all their albums are pretty similar. Those Whom the Gods Detest may as well be Annihilation of the Wicked 2.0.


Believe me, I know. But their riffs aren't always on the same level as far as catchiness goes. As far as I'm concerned, nothing can beat "Burning Pits of the Duat" or "Lashed to the Slave Stick." That said, "Oxford Handbook of Genocidal Warfare" does come close.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:46 pm 
 

Flugeldufel wrote:
Bolt Thrower was only good on the first two albums.


What the hell...? People tend to dislike their first album because it's different and has a more generic sound than the rest of their output but I don't see how could you like Realms of chaos and not war master or the IVth crusade, they're pretty much interchangeable in terms of riff, songwriting and overall style.

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Flugeldufel
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blackmantram wrote:
Flugeldufel wrote:
Bolt Thrower was only good on the first two albums.


What the hell...? People tend to dislike their first album because it's different and has a more generic sound than the rest of their output but I don't see how could you like Realms of chaos and not war master or the IVth crusade, they're pretty much interchangeable in terms of riff, songwriting and overall style.


Fair enough. War Master does have some interesting parts, but with all the nasty sounds filed off. It's just kind of there. I don't know, their formula was just way too obvious I guess. Maybe I should revisit their catalog, I do own it all afterall.

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Not a big Dark Funeral fan, but I do enjoy Attera Totus Sanctus. Haven't listened to it in a while, but there are some very catchy riffs in there.
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Unorthodox wrote:
Not a big Dark Funeral fan, but I do enjoy Attera Totus Sanctus. Haven't listened to it in a while, but there are some very catchy riffs in there.
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Oh, great example. Dark Funeral is THEE most generic norsecore band, but I quite like The Secrets of the Black Arts. For some reason, where I live, it's always the girls who are rocking the Dark Funeral shirts, and I've seen quite a few of them.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:17 pm 
 

I don't like Marduk or Funeral Most but Hekaton is fine.

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Behexen's Eternal Realm demo is beautiful, keyboard black metal. The production and music really sounds icy and magic, I love the atmosphere. I read in an interview that after that demo they decided to become the most blasphemous black metal band in the world or something like that. Such a waste when their demo is so melodic, dark and beautiful.

I like Dimmu Borgir's first album for the same reason. Simple melodies and song structures, but perfect atmosphere.

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Flugeldufel wrote:
You'll hate me for this, but Bolt Thrower was only googd on the first two albums. In Battle is cool, Realm of Chaos actually sounds like chaos. After that it's just the same plod for endless centuries of battle or whatever.


I think you're partially correct. In battle is cool and probably the most "early grind-y" of the records. Realm of Chaos is totally unique. After that they are kind of on a more refined version of themselves, and yes, the self similarity is totally a thing.

So, two ways to listen to this. One is- kind of great DM atmosphere music (as background listening, having "tank crushing over a mountain of skulls" is a good vibe to have going)

Other- Pick and choose the highlights. There are some real standout tracks that are among the best DM ever written.

And man, if you skipped everything after Realm of Chaos, whoooaaa boy.

Some of my favs (written in death metal voice)

CENOOOO- TAAAAAPPPPHHHHH! (chug chug crush, tank rolls over skullz)
WHEN CANNONS FAAAADE (epic outro with actually pretty great lyrics)

THE IVTH CRUSAAADE!!! (DA DUM, bass and tom pounds like a funeral bell tolling for a goddamn civilization)
Seriously I can't even listen to this album because the opening track is just too fucking good. This has one of those riffs you have to fucking know or why exist.

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Immolation - Shadows in the Light - for some reason it is the only album I love, I have heard songs off most of the other albums.

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megadeth93 wrote:
Immolation - Shadows in the Light - for some reason it is the only album I love, I have heard songs off most of the other albums.


have you tried the hope and horror ep? couldn't imagine someone liking that album but not the ep (or vice versa)

i think close to a world below is your best bet for other full lengths
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Dimmu's re-recoring of Stormblast. It destroys the original and it's easily their best written, performed and recorded album ever.

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Swallow the Sun - Hope

I find the band a bit boring. It has some nice melodies but they tend to get stale after a few listens.

In all of their albums there's usually a couple of songs i enjoy at first but by listen 3+ I'm already tired of those as well.

Hope is the exception. I truly enjoy listening to the album now and then, The Justice of Suffering is hands down their best song.
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Pantera. I like The Great Southern Tredkill a lot but overall I can't stand that stupid band.

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snarg wrote:
Swallow the Sun - Hope

I find the band a bit boring. It has some nice melodies but they tend to get stale after a few listens.

In all of their albums there's usually a couple of songs i enjoy at first but by listen 3+ I'm already tired of those as well.

Hope is the exception. I truly enjoy listening to the album now and then, The Justice of Suffering is hands down their best song.


Ahhhh man, their last album is fucking killer in my opinion. I take it you heard it? It's got so many awesome songs.

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snarg wrote:
Swallow the Sun - Hope

I find the band a bit boring. It has some nice melodies but they tend to get stale after a few listens.

In all of their albums there's usually a couple of songs i enjoy at first but by listen 3+ I'm already tired of those as well.

Hope is the exception. I truly enjoy listening to the album now and then, The Justice of Suffering is hands down their best song.


I haven't got into any other StS album but their debut 'The Morning Never Came'. The music feels rather tasteless after that.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:48 pm 
 

I hate Municipal Waste for making pizza thrash a thing, but I have kind of a soft spot for their first album. It's more aggressive and has this almost grind sensibility to it. Which just makes their transition to dumb, fun party "thrash" all the more disappointing.

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That first Nemesea album "Mana" is a pretty nice piece of gothic/symphonic metal - reminds me of early After Forever.

Everything after that is absolutely godawful, though.

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The Satanist is the only Behemoth album that I can say that I like. The rest of their stuff ranges from bad to generic. I don't dislike most of their albums, I just don't think they are worth listening.

The same could be said about Mayhem, I really like DMDS but I'm not a fan of the rest of their stuff. A few cool songs here and there but the albums aren't really that good.

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LycanthropeMoon wrote:
That first Nemesea album "Mana" is a pretty nice piece of gothic/symphonic metal - reminds me of early After Forever.

Everything after that is absolutely godawful, though.


I actually quite like them, because Manda's voice is still fantastic and there are infectious songs here and there, but starting on In Control they become quite a different band, generally more rock-based and mixing more electronic elements instead of symphonic ones depending on the album and song.

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Nothing wrong with Winterfylleth, just not my musical genre cup of tea, but their 2018 album The Hallowing of Heirdom is musically a departure from their usual and to me so interesting. It delves into more traditional and folk sounds, creates an atmosphere that really evokes landscape, weather, old stories and ideas. A great listen.
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GREAT call by RapeTheDead on Nachtmystium - Assassins. I still get chills when a few of those tracks pop up on playlists.

The only Judas Priest album I enjoy more than a song or two from is Painkiller.
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