Encyclopaedia Metallum: The Metal Archives

Message board

* FAQ    * Search   * Register   * Login 



Reply to topic
Author Message Previous topic | Next topic
Pincushion
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:04 pm
Posts: 29
Location: United States
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:07 pm 
 


Top
 Profile  
ChineseDownhill
Metalhead

Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:19 am
Posts: 896
Location: United States
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:47 pm 
 

If you told me that's somebody new doing the vocals, I'd believe it. Otherwise it sounds like Vektor (in a good way) in a concise 3.5 minute package, which is cool, even though the longest song on Terminal Redux was my favorite.
_________________
Currently listening to
Exhorder — Slaughter in the Vatican

Top
 Profile  
thrashinbatman
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:31 pm
Posts: 1264
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:03 pm 
 

It is indeed Vektor! Seriously though, I liked it. I've always preferred the tighter and more concise Vektor songs, so this was a nice change of pace after Terminal Redux. The new vocal approach is interesting, but I like it a lot.

Top
 Profile  
NuclearDrumsCrushedMyBrain
Metal newbie

Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:48 pm
Posts: 149
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:23 pm 
 

He seems to be doing a reverse Chuck Schuldiner where his voice starts off very high and gets deeper over time. Great song.

Top
 Profile  
Pitiless Wanderer
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:34 pm
Posts: 1327
Location: United States
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:36 pm 
 

i thought everyone left the band? What's the lineup?

Top
 Profile  
MRmehman
Metalhead

Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:34 pm
Posts: 438
Location: Painted World of Ariamis
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:58 pm 
 

Those vocals are such a downgrade and the song writing sounds far less inventive than it did on the last couple albums. Maybe if Dave spent less time drinking and abusing women, he'd write better songs.
_________________
"He who is tired of Candlemass, is tired of life."

Top
 Profile  
Ace_Rimmer
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:30 am
Posts: 1812
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:58 pm 
 

Dig it. Looking forward to more material.

Top
 Profile  
alexo666
Metalhead

Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:53 am
Posts: 416
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:38 pm 
 

MRmehman wrote:
Those vocals are such a downgrade and the song writing sounds far less inventive than it did on the last couple albums. Maybe if Dave spent less time drinking and abusing women, he'd write better songs.

Glad someone said it.
_________________
OneRodeToAsaBay on dating wrote:
I'm never again fucking anyone who doesn't love Judas Priest and that's that.


Last FM

Top
 Profile  
praey
Metalhead

Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:33 am
Posts: 740
Location: United States
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:16 pm 
 

It reminds me of Warbringer gone progressive, though that could just be the more direct songwriting and the fact that the beginning sounds a lot like Warbringer's "Living Weapon." Unless I'm mistaken this is Vektor's second shortest song behind only "Dark Creations, Dead Creators." In all I dig it. It covers a lot of ground in 3:30 yet doesn't feel incoherent. I wonder if we can expect a new album soon or if this is just intended as a standalone single.

Top
 Profile  
draconiondevil
Metal newbie

Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:21 pm
Posts: 70
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:17 pm 
 

Not sure how I feel about the vocal direction. Oh, and domestic abuse isn't cool.

Top
 Profile  
motorsport
Metal newbie

Joined: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:48 pm
Posts: 214
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:37 am 
 

Vocals sound like a guy who had his band quit on him ahead of a domestic abuse scandal coming out about him. Pass.

Top
 Profile  
Ilwhyan
Metel fraek

Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:41 pm
Posts: 8443
Location: Finland
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:49 am 
 

That bass sound is garbage, wow. It's like the bass equivalent of the St. Anger snare.
_________________
"A glimpse of light is all that it takes to illuminate the darkness."

Top
 Profile  
StelioKontos
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:06 am
Posts: 7
Location: Chad
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:02 am 
 

Great song, not sure how I feel about the vocals though.

No new album yet it is 1 of 2 songs on a split EP.

Glad they are still making music!

Top
 Profile  
Anthony Pwl
Metal newbie

Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:12 am
Posts: 107
Location: Normandy, rebuilt.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:31 am 
 

NuclearDrumsCrushedMyBrain wrote:
He seems to be doing a reverse Chuck Schuldiner where his voice starts off very high and gets deeper over time. Great song.

On the contrary i guess Chuck Schuldiner did a reverse-everybody else. Piercing screams tend to disappear with age among the vast majority of metal singers. You can find some counter-examples but it seems to me "high => low" is widespread.
On "Terminal Redux" the screechy voice was not as clear as it was on "Black Future", so i could see that coming.

Pitiless Wanderer wrote:
i thought everyone left the band? What's the lineup?

Erik Nelson is back on guitar.
Stephen Coon + Mike Ohlson on bass / drums.

From Erik Neslon's FB page :

Quote:
New track, we're back, choice slacks, nut sacks. Anyway, here's a new song, this is a very straightforward piece, so don't expect the epic wacky prog tunes quite yet. That stuff is coming, don't worry your pretty little heads!

:bow:
_________________
My whole Taken By Force album cover for my 40th birthday Check it out!

Top
 Profile  
Twisted_Psychology
Metal freak

Joined: Sat May 16, 2009 8:22 pm
Posts: 5365
Location: United States
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:33 am 
 

I know Tom Araya wasn't really able to pull off the highest screams later on but his delivery did get noticeably shriekier with age.
_________________
Christopher Steve (Doom Folk/Americana): http://christophersteve.bandcamp.com/
Lavaborne (Power Doom): https://lavaborne.bandcamp.com
Spirit Division (Stoner Doom): http://spiritdivision.bandcamp.com

Top
 Profile  
Dungeon_Vic
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:00 am
Posts: 1047
Location: Greece
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:52 am 
 

Music sounds 100% Vektor. It might be one of their shortest and most straight-forward songs but it's still quite busy musically.

Love the bass (St Anger snare comparison? uh, what?), dude on drums had huge shoes to fill and did great. The production is not the best they've done but quite OK. Vocals is the biggest change I hear. I knew they were going to change as the style was not sustainable and the spacey element was already missing from Terminal Redux (I mean that sound he does on "Souls..." on Oblivion), which sounded like standard black metal vocals, which are really not my thing. The new style is standard new wave thrash vocals, which is... fine I guess, losing character points though. Hopefully, he will work on his performance, there are places he can go with this approach, including adding actual vocal lines. We'll see. I do prefer this style over Terminal Redux, as long as I get some banshee screams here and there!

All in all, this looks like a great split EP, which I wish would come out on CD. The most shocking thing for this Vektor fanboy is that I prefer (by a hair) the Cryptosis song, Decypher. Those Dutch thrashers are one of the best out there (as Distillator) so this is a great team-up for me.
_________________
42

King Diamond: A Royal Tribute (short guide to King Diamond's discography)

Vic's Dungeon:

The Dungeon Awards for 2017

Best of 2017, Part II: 5+1 more albums

Let's talk about Ghost (aka Stop the Madness)

Top
 Profile  
Gunslinger21
Metal newbie

Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:11 am
Posts: 264
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:56 am 
 

This is killer, this band is amazing.

Top
 Profile  
Ace_Rimmer
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:30 am
Posts: 1812
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:22 pm 
 

Saw them on the last tour, one of the last shows I think and they were mostly out of merch at that point which was probably related to the band imploding at the time. But fuck they were tight and just kicked ass. The drummer was really laying it down and the guitars were great. Hopefully the lead guy got help for drinking and anger issues.

Listening to it now on Amazon...what is wrong with the bass?

Top
 Profile  
NuclearDrumsCrushedMyBrain
Metal newbie

Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:48 pm
Posts: 149
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:48 pm 
 

praey wrote:
It reminds me of Warbringer gone progressive, though that could just be the more direct songwriting and the fact that the beginning sounds a lot like Warbringer's "Living Weapon." Unless I'm mistaken this is Vektor's second shortest song behind only "Dark Creations, Dead Creators." In all I dig it. It covers a lot of ground in 3:30 yet doesn't feel incoherent. I wonder if we can expect a new album soon or if this is just intended as a standalone single.


I would expect a new album over the next couple of years. I don't think David would have reformed the band without intentions to release more than 1 song.

I agree on the Warbringer comparisons.

Top
 Profile  
Ilwhyan
Metel fraek

Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:41 pm
Posts: 8443
Location: Finland
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:00 pm 
 

Ace_Rimmer wrote:
Listening to it now on Amazon...what is wrong with the bass?

Ever play Doom?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwJFMyyk-g&t=40s
_________________
"A glimpse of light is all that it takes to illuminate the darkness."

Top
 Profile  
vindfukk
Metal newbie

Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:02 am
Posts: 41
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:59 pm 
 

I'm still wondering who the fuck is CRYPTOSIS

it reads CRYOTOSIS which is more rad

Top
 Profile  
Ace_Rimmer
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:30 am
Posts: 1812
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:15 pm 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Ace_Rimmer wrote:
Listening to it now on Amazon...what is wrong with the bass?

Ever play Doom?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwJFMyyk-g&t=40s


I bought Doom 2 the day before I got my first 486SX2-50. Oh the good old days.

Honestly the bass didn't bother me, I liked the whole song.

Top
 Profile  
Dungeon_Vic
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:00 am
Posts: 1047
Location: Greece
PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:22 am 
 

vindfukk wrote:
I'm still wondering who the fuck is CRYPTOSIS

it reads CRYOTOSIS which is more rad


It's Distillator after they changed their name.

I've plugged this a lot but one more time won't hurt: One of my favorite songs of 2018, Swarm Intelligence
_________________
42

King Diamond: A Royal Tribute (short guide to King Diamond's discography)

Vic's Dungeon:

The Dungeon Awards for 2017

Best of 2017, Part II: 5+1 more albums

Let's talk about Ghost (aka Stop the Madness)

Top
 Profile  
Gravetemplar
Metalhead

Joined: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:08 am
Posts: 2150
Location: Antarctica
PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:06 am 
 

This was a bit underwhelmig. The song sounds half-assed and the vocals are a lot worse.

Top
 Profile  
Required Fields
Metalhead

Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:32 pm
Posts: 810
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:02 am 
 

I have not heard the song yet, but I do find it strange that so many people were jazzed about the new Inquisition while not so much Vektor.

I've heard conflicting reports about the domestic abuse situation. Some say David's ex-wife was an abuser, too, and he just snapped in return. Reports have indicated that it was a toxic relationship on both sides. If that's not the case, and David really was the villain in the relationship, then hopefully he gets the help he needs.

Yet, with Inquisition, what Dagon did was infinitely worse. On the other hand, somehow, people think with Vektor, it's more important to bring up David's actions outside of the music than the music itself.
_________________
Required Fields on YouTube

Top
 Profile  
gestapothrash
Metalhead

Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:55 am
Posts: 893
Location: The Land Down Under
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:12 pm 
 

Goddamnit what the fuck is with that "pong pong" sounding bass and that horrific snare. Sometimes I just wish generic neo-thrash with clean production would just cease to exist.
Also the vocals sound like he's the one who was abused, total shit
_________________
UltraBoris wrote:
Imagine getting pounded on the side of the head with a rather average-sized brick approximately four times a second for a half-hour while a vacuum cleaner is turned to maximum volume in the background. That's Marduk for ya.

My Fukking Wantlist
My Fukking Collection

Top
 Profile  
Turner
Metalhead

Joined: Fri Aug 23, 2002 2:04 am
Posts: 2126
Location: Australia
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:23 am 
 

This isn't a bad song, seems like there are a few good ideas in there. It almost seems opposite to a lot of modern thrash - too many ideas packed into a tiny song and giving none of them breathing room, as opposed to not enough ideas strewn throughout a longer song. But jeeeeez it's thin. There's no oomph to those guitars at all. It's not that the bass is too "pong pong" - if it was recorded decently it wouldn't be an issue. Active basses sound like that, they're just usually complemented by guitar tones and overall production that makes it less obvious.

Top
 Profile  
gestapothrash
Metalhead

Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:55 am
Posts: 893
Location: The Land Down Under
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:27 am 
 

If not mastered carefully, the one thing active basses tend to miss is the part where they actually have bass
_________________
UltraBoris wrote:
Imagine getting pounded on the side of the head with a rather average-sized brick approximately four times a second for a half-hour while a vacuum cleaner is turned to maximum volume in the background. That's Marduk for ya.

My Fukking Wantlist
My Fukking Collection

Top
 Profile  
Turner
Metalhead

Joined: Fri Aug 23, 2002 2:04 am
Posts: 2126
Location: Australia
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:39 am 
 

Yeah, it honestly sounds like they ran the same high/low-pass EQ filters over the bass as the guitars and left it at that. I dunno, maybe "no low end" is their goal here?

Top
 Profile  
gestapothrash
Metalhead

Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:55 am
Posts: 893
Location: The Land Down Under
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:53 am 
 

Turner wrote:
I dunno, maybe "no low end" is their goal here?

Yeah I'm guessing so man, hence my earlier "I just wish generic neo-thrash with clean production would just cease to exist" comment - I find it all too common that this is the case. I just want to scream THRASH NEEDS BASS! IT NEEDS LOW END AND SOME DIRT!
_________________
UltraBoris wrote:
Imagine getting pounded on the side of the head with a rather average-sized brick approximately four times a second for a half-hour while a vacuum cleaner is turned to maximum volume in the background. That's Marduk for ya.

My Fukking Wantlist
My Fukking Collection

Top
 Profile  
Turner
Metalhead

Joined: Fri Aug 23, 2002 2:04 am
Posts: 2126
Location: Australia
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:41 am 
 

haha fair enough man. To be fair I have nothing against clean production, I just hate it when it's so tinny, and in this day and age when you can come up with something so much better in your own bedroom, it just seems like intentional shittiness. I guess imitating 80s Voivod is this band's thing, but tbh that late-80s NA thrash production was always awful anyway. It's not like a well-rounded sound is antithetical to being "rock n roll", I just don't understand it.

Top
 Profile  
interstellar_medium
Metalhead

Joined: Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:41 am
Posts: 516
Location: Russia
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:36 am 
 

The vocals are probably the biggest letdown for me...

Required Fields wrote:
I've heard conflicting reports about the domestic abuse situation. Some say David's ex-wife was an abuser, too, and he just snapped in return. Reports have indicated that it was a toxic relationship on both sides. If that's not the case, and David really was the villain in the relationship, then hopefully he gets the help he needs.


Definitely.

Top
 Profile  
overkill1978
Metal newbie

Joined: Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:11 pm
Posts: 208
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:48 am 
 

Love it. Can't believe it took me this long to hear the new Vektor. I'm a die hard that's been going to their shows since before they even had an album out though. Can't wait for the new album

Top
 Profile  
Deathstalker1985
Metal newbie

Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:53 pm
Posts: 297
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:23 am 
 

The second track was posted today


Top
 Profile  
TheLoneForest
Metalhead

Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:16 pm
Posts: 445
Location: Quebec
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:42 am 
 

Deathstalker1985 wrote:
The second track was posted today



Well that was different

Top
 Profile  
interstellar_medium
Metalhead

Joined: Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:41 am
Posts: 516
Location: Russia
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:55 pm 
 

Deathstalker1985 wrote:
The second track was posted today


The two styles kinda compete in this one and the thrashy one doesn't seem to win... It sounds as if DiSanto is more interested in the "Weather Report" part of Vektor these days. Which is not necessarily bad. His cleans have improved massively.

Top
 Profile  
BleedingMoon
Metal newbie

Joined: Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:37 pm
Posts: 45
Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:13 am 
 

Both seem to have a different sound from the previous stuff but I'm still enjoying what I'm hearing. I don't think I could get through another "everything and the kitchen sink in one song, and repeat that 12 times" album like Terminal Redux was.

Top
 Profile  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: bts523, DarthVenom, OzzyApu and 25 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

  Print view
Jump to:  

Back to the Encyclopaedia Metallum


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group