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Author:  Ill-Starred Son [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:38 am ]
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des91 wrote:
Here’s one!:

This is by far my favorite Metal related site that I’ve found in my 30 years of existence. I love everything about this creation except one thing. And I’ve said it before in other threads, but every-time it is said here it hurts my soul. Just the fact that more people on this forum don’t like Thrash as much as myself or the people on other sites.

Although maybe more people like it here than I’m noticing. It could be that I’m just finding the negative comments on it, like said above lol.

Curious to you non-Thrashers, what don’t you like about it? Do you like some of the styles of Thrash but not others? It seems like a lot of people here don’t care for just “pure Thrash”, like Exodus, Testament, Death Angel land such. Actually, Bay Area Thrash in general seems really unpopular here.


I definitely do like thrash, but I just don't like it anywhere near as much as death, black, grindcore, melodic death and certain other sub-genres.

For me, it was a gateway to death metal and extreme metal, but not really a style I continued wanting to listen to as often.

It just kind of feels like for me, what most thrash bands do, equally talented death metal bands do better, at least IMO.

Of course the two are different styles, so in a way that might not be fair to say, but early death metal has a lot in common at its base with thrash.

When it does come to thrash, I prefer black thrash or death thrash to pure thrash, but I still like normal thrash bands.

But I've been thinking about it lately and I'm going to revisit some albums I missed by classic thrash bands who I liked and try to get back into it more.

Author:  LithoJazzoSphere [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:02 am ]
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Gravetemplar wrote:
My take regarding the harsh/clean vocals discussion is that it's incredibly difficult to mix both of them into the same album and not suck. Even more if the clean vocals are mostly used for the choruses. Bands that do either clean or harsh vocals without mixing them are much better than bands that try to combine them. The whole Beauty and the Beast gimmick of mixing harsh and clean parts is incredibly cheesy.


Almost anything in metal looks like the cheesiest shit imaginable to people who aren't into it. It's just a question of what sort of cheese you prefer. I actually tend to think a lot of the best bands are those that mix different varieties of cleans and harsh vocals together. Opeth, Draconian, Scar Symmetry, Amorphis, Edge of Sanity, Soilwork, Oceans of Slumber, Mercenary, Devin Townsend, Daylight Dies, Triptykon, Nightrage, Darzamat, Eventide, Swallow The Sun, Satariel, November's Doom, Dark Tranquillity, Witherscape, Noumena, Deadlock, Ram-Zet, Raving Season, Killswitch Engage, etc. It gives more variety and less predictability than bands who only do one or the other.

Author:  Empyreal [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:43 am ]
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des91 wrote:
Here’s one!:

This is by far my favorite Metal related site that I’ve found in my 30 years of existence. I love everything about this creation except one thing. And I’ve said it before in other threads, but every-time it is said here it hurts my soul. Just the fact that more people on this forum don’t like Thrash as much as myself or the people on other sites.

Although maybe more people like it here than I’m noticing. It could be that I’m just finding the negative comments on it, like said above lol.

Curious to you non-Thrashers, what don’t you like about it? Do you like some of the styles of Thrash but not others? It seems like a lot of people here don’t care for just “pure Thrash”, like Exodus, Testament, Death Angel land such. Actually, Bay Area Thrash in general seems really unpopular here.


I like it when it's something different from the Exodus/Overkill norm, which just isn't really a style I'm terribly interested in right now anyway. I like different kinds of lyrical themes, some quirkier riffs, etc... Blind Illusion, Coroner, Watchtower, that kind of thing.

Author:  Lagartija [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:53 am ]
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markhebb wrote:
Zelkiiro wrote:
I got a hot and spicy one: Overkill's post-2010 output is their best output.

We can get even spicier: Not only is it the best of Overkill's output, it's also among the best in all of thrash metal, period.

Now we're getting thermonuclear: White Devil Armory is better than Master of Puppets.


There’s an argument to make that Ironbound is the best Overkill LP

Nah, 'Ironbound' rules, but you can't beat their classic five-album run (with the possible exception of 'Under the influence', which I'd rate below 'Ironbound').
Re 'White devil armory' being better than MOP... Hmmm, I've never been a huge fan of Metallica outside 'Kill em all' so I might be biassed, but 'Battery' is a motherfucker.

Author:  DonHoorn [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:10 am ]
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des91 wrote:
Here’s one!:

This is by far my favorite Metal related site that I’ve found in my 30 years of existence. I love everything about this creation except one thing. And I’ve said it before in other threads, but every-time it is said here it hurts my soul. Just the fact that more people on this forum don’t like Thrash as much as myself or the people on other sites.

Although maybe more people like it here than I’m noticing. It could be that I’m just finding the negative comments on it, like said above lol.

Curious to you non-Thrashers, what don’t you like about it? Do you like some of the styles of Thrash but not others? It seems like a lot of people here don’t care for just “pure Thrash”, like Exodus, Testament, Death Angel land such. Actually, Bay Area Thrash in general seems really unpopular here.


Most thrash metal just sounds boring to me. There are some thrash bands/albums I do like, but even those I don't listen to that often.
I do enjoy alot of black/thrash and death/thrash.

Author:  Benedict Donald [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:20 am ]
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Lagartija wrote:
markhebb wrote:
Zelkiiro wrote:
I got a hot and spicy one: Overkill's post-2010 output is their best output.

We can get even spicier: Not only is it the best of Overkill's output, it's also among the best in all of thrash metal, period.

Now we're getting thermonuclear: White Devil Armory is better than Master of Puppets.


There’s an argument to make that Ironbound is the best Overkill LP

Nah, 'Ironbound' rules, but you can't beat their classic five-album run (with the possible exception of 'Under the influence', which I'd rate below 'Ironbound').


This.
I find it extraordinarily difficult to rank any Overkill releases above "Years", "Horrorscope", "Taking Over", or the debut.

Author:  MetalVermont [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:48 am ]
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des91 wrote:
Here’s one!:

This is by far my favorite Metal related site that I’ve found in my 30 years of existence. I love everything about this creation except one thing. And I’ve said it before in other threads, but every-time it is said here it hurts my soul. Just the fact that more people on this forum don’t like Thrash as much as myself or the people on other sites.

Although maybe more people like it here than I’m noticing. It could be that I’m just finding the negative comments on it, like said above lol.

Curious to you non-Thrashers, what don’t you like about it? Do you like some of the styles of Thrash but not others? It seems like a lot of people here don’t care for just “pure Thrash”, like Exodus, Testament, Death Angel land such. Actually, Bay Area Thrash in general seems really unpopular here.


I love thrash. The best riffs in metal and (when done right) just as aggressive and energetic as black or death. But it's not kvlt for the newer generations.

Author:  Spiner202 [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:53 am ]
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des91 wrote:
Here’s one!:

This is by far my favorite Metal related site that I’ve found in my 30 years of existence. I love everything about this creation except one thing. And I’ve said it before in other threads, but every-time it is said here it hurts my soul. Just the fact that more people on this forum don’t like Thrash as much as myself or the people on other sites.

Although maybe more people like it here than I’m noticing. It could be that I’m just finding the negative comments on it, like said above lol.

Curious to you non-Thrashers, what don’t you like about it? Do you like some of the styles of Thrash but not others? It seems like a lot of people here don’t care for just “pure Thrash”, like Exodus, Testament, Death Angel land such. Actually, Bay Area Thrash in general seems really unpopular here.

Thrash is my favourite style of music and my take is that this isn't specific to MA, but it's more of a general trend as the years go on. I feel like a ton of people on the internet were into thrash during the revival period around 2008, but I think that has mostly gone now.

I won't say too much more because I think I repeat a lot of the same talking points whenever I talk about thrash, but I've found this trend to be disappointing and wish more people would invest most in thrash.

Author:  des91 [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:18 pm ]
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Alright so it sounds like it’s more of a time period where pure Thrash is just kinda falling through the cracks popularity wise. As said above, I got into Metal and Thrash at the heart of the revival period in the mid to late 00s so that’s part of why I love that style. But Death/Thrash or the brutal Thrash is also my favorite as well! So I’m not alone there haha. But I’ve tried to like Black/Thrash but the only band that clicked with me is Desaster. Most of it just sounds boring, like how some people view pure Thrash as boring. Wish I could get into more of that genre.

Author:  Lagartija [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:42 pm ]
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I never thought I'd see the day when metalheads would say thrash sucks, but I suppose it might be an age thing. I've never really seen the appeal of Possessed or 'Pleasure to kill', but older friends of mine swear by them.
Venom is another one that may seem overrated by today's standards, but viewed in context all these bands and albums are vital to the development of metal and must have been incredible to the people who were there when they came out.

My unpopular opinion in this regard is that I love black thrash but can't get into Aura Noir.

Author:  Gravetemplar [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:45 pm ]
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I don't dislike thrash, I'm just a lot more into extreme metal and most thrash tends not to be extreme. My point is I still really like Slayer and Nekromantheon but I couldn't care less about Metallica and Anthrax.

Author:  EvergreenSherbert [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:59 pm ]
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des91 wrote:
Curious to you non-Thrashers, what don’t you like about it? Do you like some of the styles of Thrash but not others? It seems like a lot of people here don’t care for just “pure Thrash”, like Exodus, Testament, Death Angel land such. Actually, Bay Area Thrash in general seems really unpopular here.

For me, it's a lot of different reasons. But overall, it just doesn't really have any of what appeals to me in metal. I have the same issue with most old school metal, especially traditional heavy metal. But there are a lot of other genres I don't like. Doom metal and most groove metal hasn't ever been appealing to me, though I might change my mind about doom if I find some bands.

Of course, I'm not saying these genres suck or anything. If I have to pick between a modern pop song and a megadeth song, I'm going with the latter any day.

Author:  LithoJazzoSphere [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:18 pm ]
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des91 wrote:
Just the fact that more people on this forum don’t like Thrash as much as myself or the people on other sites.

Although maybe more people like it here than I’m noticing. It could be that I’m just finding the negative comments on it, like said above lol...It seems like a lot of people here don’t care for just “pure Thrash”, like Exodus, Testament, Death Angel land such. Actually, Bay Area Thrash in general seems really unpopular here.


I think a lot of it is just that for the most part this forum attracts people who've "been around the block" in terms of metal, so other than the most popular styles like black and death, the subgenre classics and gateway bands of other styles (and bay area thrash is often a gateway to metal as a whole) tend to be viewed as less interesting to discuss since they're so overexposed. If we ever get to a best of the 80s poll those bands are still going to do very well, and when they release new albums they tend to get talked about a fair amount (like the multi-page thread on the latest Exodus). But for the most part people here tend to seek out more underground bands, and classic-styled thrash just isn't in vogue in the metal scene as a whole at the moment, since the 00s rethrash movement has cooled off. But thrash hybrids still tend to resonate with people here, and the somewhat more obscure bands from the original era are brought up as often as bands of similar status in other subgenres are.

I don't know if there's some other forum that is dedicated more specifically to thrash, but this just seems like an issue for any subgenre that currently isn't as in style as it used to be or is more niche. I'm sure all of us have particular flavors of metal that we wish were more popular and discussed more. Lots of things I like have far less traction here than thrash does. But if there are particular bands, albums and such that you want to discuss, just start new threads on them (or search for and bump more recent ones). I'm sure plenty of people will chime in. Sometimes if the ongoing discussions aren't to your taste you may just have to kickstart them yourself.

Author:  Tulcakelume [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:10 pm ]
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doomicus wrote:
Bands that take most (or a sizeable chunk) of their influence from Manowar, are almost always better than Manowar.

Opus wrote:
This isn't an unpopular opinion, it's a dumb opinion! What bands would that be?

Bluesyboy wrote:
Ight give me some good manowar clone recommendations at least

Yes, please doomicus, enlighten us with suggestions. I haven't yet found a good Manowar clone.

Author:  interstellar_medium [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:19 pm ]
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TheCloudMinder wrote:
The vast majority of metal bands utilize one or the other, so his claim is actually kind of insulting to both camps


Leaving alone the issue of how vast that supposed majority is - why do y'all keep assuming that everyone on these boards apart from Morrigan is a man? :D

Author:  HeavenDuff [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:22 pm ]
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interstellar_medium wrote:
TheCloudMinder wrote:
The vast majority of metal bands utilize one or the other, so his claim is actually kind of insulting to both camps


Leaving alone the issue of how vast that supposed majority is - why do y'all keep assuming that everyone on these boards apart from Morrigan is a man? :D


Because there are not girls on the internet, everybody knows that. Come on.

Author:  doomicus [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:38 pm ]
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Tulcakelume wrote:
doomicus wrote:
Bands that take most (or a sizeable chunk) of their influence from Manowar, are almost always better than Manowar.

Opus wrote:
This isn't an unpopular opinion, it's a dumb opinion! What bands would that be?

Bluesyboy wrote:
Ight give me some good manowar clone recommendations at least

Yes, please doomicus, enlighten us with suggestions. I haven't yet found a good Manowar clone.


I'm not talking about clones. I'm talking bands that utilize a large influence from Manowar in one way or another, either first or second hand. I much prefer prime Virgin Steele, Atlantean Kodex, viking era Bathory, Solstice (UK), Morrigan (GER), Sons of Crom, Doomsword ect to Manowar. Having said that, I REALLY have a vendetta against Manowar.

Author:  draconiondevil [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:13 pm ]
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doomicus wrote:
Tulcakelume wrote:
doomicus wrote:
Bands that take most (or a sizeable chunk) of their influence from Manowar, are almost always better than Manowar.

Opus wrote:
This isn't an unpopular opinion, it's a dumb opinion! What bands would that be?

Bluesyboy wrote:
Ight give me some good manowar clone recommendations at least

Yes, please doomicus, enlighten us with suggestions. I haven't yet found a good Manowar clone.


I'm not talking about clones. I'm talking bands that utilize a large influence from Manowar in one way or another, either first or second hand. I much prefer prime Virgin Steele, Atlantean Kodex, viking era Bathory, Solstice (UK), Morrigan (GER), Sons of Crom, Doomsword ect to Manowar. Having said that, I REALLY have a vendetta against Manowar.


Leave the hall

Author:  TheCloudMinder [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:17 pm ]
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doomicus wrote:
Bands that take most (or a sizeable chunk) of their influence from Manowar, are almost always better than Manowar.


Out of curiosity, which ones?

Eternal Champion is a very good band heavily influenced by Manowar. I certainly don't think they are better but they are great.

What are some others?

Author:  Gravetemplar [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:34 pm ]
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The Antidote is Moonspell's best album.

Author:  doomicus [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:37 pm ]
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TheCloudMinder wrote:
doomicus wrote:
Bands that take most (or a sizeable chunk) of their influence from Manowar, are almost always better than Manowar.


Out of curiosity, which ones?

Eternal Champion is a very good band heavily influenced by Manowar. I certainly don't think they are better but they are great.

What are some others?


I already answered:
doomicus wrote:
I'm not talking about clones. I'm talking bands that utilize a large influence from Manowar in one way or another, either first or second hand. I much prefer prime Virgin Steele, Atlantean Kodex, viking era Bathory, Solstice (UK), Morrigan (GER), Sons of Crom, Doomsword ect to Manowar. Having said that, I REALLY have a vendetta against Manowar.

Author:  TheCloudMinder [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:12 pm ]
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I really like those bands too, but I cannot possibly agree that they are in any way better than Manowar.

Why do you feel that way? Whence cometh the vendetta?

Author:  Gravetemplar [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:26 pm ]
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Manowar are pure trash and "wimps and posers, leave the hall" is a good summarization of everything that is wrong with metal. There, I said it.

Author:  doomicus [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:27 pm ]
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Gravetemplar wrote:
Manowar are pure trash and "wimps and posers, leave the hall" is a good summarization of everything that is wrong with metal. There, I said it.

Gravetemplar knows what's up. I agree.

Author:  Nocturnal_Evil [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:50 pm ]
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Not necessarily unpopular, but Majestica/ReinXeed have/had huge potential. Tommy knows how to craft a good melody and is one hell of a singer/guitar player, but the damn production ruins everything. I know power metal is generally more "fluffy" than pretty much every other sub-genre, but god damn, there's a trend towards the ultra-polished sound going on these days that destroys a lot of otherwise cool tunes.

Which reminds me (and I think I may have read this exact opinion somewhere else on this thread): power/symphonic metal is pop for people who don't want to admit they like pop.

Author:  EvergreenSherbert [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:59 pm ]
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Gravetemplar wrote:
Manowar are pure trash and "wimps and posers, leave the hall" is a good summarization of everything that is wrong with metal. There, I said it.

I'll be honest. I've never thought of Manowar as anything short of a joke.

Author:  Empyreal [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:10 pm ]
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Nocturnal_Evil wrote:
Which reminds me (and I think I may have read this exact opinion somewhere else on this thread): power/symphonic metal is pop for people who don't want to admit they like pop.


Some of it maybe. And I do like quite a bit of pop going back to the Beatles and coming up to modern day... but I mean statements like this, I can't imagine hearing this or that and thinking 'yup, just pop, nothing else going on there.'

Author:  oldmetalhead [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:18 am ]
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EvergreenSherbert wrote:
Gravetemplar wrote:
Manowar are pure trash and "wimps and posers, leave the hall" is a good summarization of everything that is wrong with metal. There, I said it.

I'll be honest. I've never thought of Manowar as anything short of a joke.

Same here. Just like Thor, the ridiculous album covers alone were enough to make me say no when shuffling through records.

Author:  LithoJazzoSphere [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:47 am ]
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Empyreal wrote:
Nocturnal_Evil wrote:
Which reminds me (and I think I may have read this exact opinion somewhere else on this thread): power/symphonic metal is pop for people who don't want to admit they like pop.


Some of it maybe. And I do like quite a bit of pop going back to the Beatles and coming up to modern day... but I mean statements like this, I can't imagine hearing this or that and thinking 'yup, just pop, nothing else going on there.'


He might be talking more about the hybrid sort of bands, Nightwish, Epica, Kamelot, Rhapsody, etc. I don't think "pop" is a dirty word anyway, there's plenty of great pop music and tons of mediocre or bad metal. And there are lots of great combinations of pop and metal. But I have no problem admitting it, so I'm probably not the target audience. Although, fans of those type of bands might not have an issue acknowledging it either, I guess you'd have to do a poll or survey. Extreme metal elitists are more the type to shun anything resembling pop.

Author:  In_Zane [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:01 am ]
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Gravetemplar wrote:
Manowar are pure trash and "wimps and posers, leave the hall" is a good summarization of everything that is wrong with metal. There, I said it.

I like their ''Gods of War'' album, and thats about it.

Can't stand their weak bullshit claiming they're the ''Kings of Metal''.

Author:  Lagartija [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:06 am ]
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Gravetemplar wrote:
I don't dislike thrash, I'm just a lot more into extreme metal and most thrash tends not to be extreme. My point is I still really like Slayer and Nekromantheon but I couldn't care less about Metallica and Anthrax.

Try Whiplash 'Power and pain', quite possibly my favourite thrash album ever.
There's also Sadus, Morbid Saint, Demolition Hammer...

Author:  Empyreal [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:28 pm ]
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LithoJazzoSphere wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
Nocturnal_Evil wrote:
Which reminds me (and I think I may have read this exact opinion somewhere else on this thread): power/symphonic metal is pop for people who don't want to admit they like pop.


Some of it maybe. And I do like quite a bit of pop going back to the Beatles and coming up to modern day... but I mean statements like this, I can't imagine hearing this or that and thinking 'yup, just pop, nothing else going on there.'


He might be talking more about the hybrid sort of bands, Nightwish, Epica, Kamelot, Rhapsody, etc. I don't think "pop" is a dirty word anyway, there's plenty of great pop music and tons of mediocre or bad metal. And there are lots of great combinations of pop and metal. But I have no problem admitting it, so I'm probably not the target audience. Although, fans of those type of bands might not have an issue acknowledging it either, I guess you'd have to do a poll or survey. Extreme metal elitists are more the type to shun anything resembling pop.


Yeah I mean I don't have an issue saying that Excalion is influenced by pop, or some Sonata Arctica tunes. It's just that when posts like the above say it, it seems to be in a very derogatory sense to almost everything in the whole genre and that just doesn't ring true to me.

Author:  Benedict Donald [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:53 pm ]
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EvergreenSherbert wrote:
Gravetemplar wrote:
Manowar are pure trash and "wimps and posers, leave the hall" is a good summarization of everything that is wrong with metal. There, I said it.

I'll be honest. I've never thought of Manowar as anything short of a joke.


They are hard to take seriously and have always been their own worst enemy. Still, their 80s material is pretty solid....great musically and in delivery. And prime-era Eric Adams possessed one of the all-time greatest metal voices!
I'd definitely take them over the viking-era Bathory which was better in theory than execution (too dull, frankly).

Author:  acid_bukkake [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:23 pm ]
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To talk back on the thrash discussion a little...

I love "pure thrash," especially the Bay Area sound. I'll listen to Exodus or 80s Metallica over just about any other band, if pushed, and the re-thrash bands that I enjoy the most are the ones that either take that sound and run with it or go into full crossover territory.

My "unpopular" take on it? Death/thrash and blackened thrash bore the living hell out of me.

Author:  Bluesyboy [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:31 pm ]
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des91 wrote:
Alright so it sounds like it’s more of a time period where pure Thrash is just kinda falling through the cracks popularity wise. As said above, I got into Metal and Thrash at the heart of the revival period in the mid to late 00s so that’s part of why I love that style. But Death/Thrash or the brutal Thrash is also my favorite as well! So I’m not alone there haha. But I’ve tried to like Black/Thrash but the only band that clicked with me is Desaster. Most of it just sounds boring, like how some people view pure Thrash as boring. Wish I could get into more of that genre.

I think pure Thrash is really difficult to do well. The only thrash I love is Ride the Lighting and most of the Voivod albums. Although I'm not sure how many of those are considered thrash. I still need to listen to Coroner. Stuff like Megadeth, Slayer, Overkill, and Death Angel is just okay to me. The way bands transition riffs is super interesting so I think my opinions might change.

Author:  KaiKasparek [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:08 pm ]
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Unpopular opinion threads are just bored shit-stirrers trying to stir the shit. Everyone has at least one notion or idea that goes against pedagogy.

Also A Real Live Dead One > Live After Death.

Author:  77hjrttfred [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:14 pm ]
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I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I find Necrophagist and some of those ultra-technical groups almost unlistenable. I like groups that mix technical and progressive elements such as Obscura. I like groups such as Nile and Hour Of Penance that mix technical and brutal death metal but if a group has ridiculous amounts of noodling and try too hard to show off how technical they are, no thanks.

I guess I might put Origin in that category. I mean, I have a could of their albums downloaded and I can listen to it in small doses. I wouldn't want to listen to that kind of music all day. It would give me a headache.

Author:  Morrigan [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:37 pm ]
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doomicus wrote:
I'm not talking about clones. I'm talking bands that utilize a large influence from Manowar in one way or another, either first or second hand. I much prefer prime Virgin Steele, Atlantean Kodex, viking era Bathory, Solstice (UK), Morrigan (GER), Sons of Crom, Doomsword ect to Manowar. Having said that, I REALLY have a vendetta against Manowar.

I don't have a vendetta against Manowar, but I agree with you on the rest.

Author:  Empyreal [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:39 pm ]
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'Louder than Hell' was so completely terrible that I honestly just never cared to try anything they did after it. I also thought 'Kings of Metal' wasn't even very good. But I liked their old stuff.

Author:  Nocturnal_Evil [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:59 pm ]
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Empyreal wrote:
Yeah I mean I don't have an issue saying that Excalion is influenced by pop, or some Sonata Arctica tunes. It's just that when posts like the above say it, it seems to be in a very derogatory sense to almost everything in the whole genre and that just doesn't ring true to me.


I'm glad to see my post has made a stir! To clarify: I was having fun painting with a broad brush and actually like a lot of power metal. I also don't have anything against pop. But there's a certain strain of power metal that bands like Sabaton, Bloodbound, Battlebeast, Beast in Black etc. create that is distinct (at least to me) from genre staples like Blind Guardian, Stratovarius, and early Kamelot. The latter bands seem to come off a lot less contrived than the aforementioned ones.

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