This is cool and all, but their write up looks really pathetic and like they're just trying to save face due to the backlash they received. Pretty terrible site in general with horrible reviews.

This is cool and all, but their write up looks really pathetic and like they're just trying to save face due to the backlash they received. Pretty terrible site in general with horrible reviews.

I'm not sure how many people use AMG as their go to for extreme metal reviews anyway, most of the time the reviewers seem like they have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to black or death metal. I'd be surprised if it was a significant enough number for a lot of people to get upset over this policy.

It's a fair enough policy and it's their site so they can use whatever criteria they want to decide whether or not something should be reviewed. I don't think there was ever any danger of blatant NS bands being reviewed there to begin with, so I guess it just comes to down to what criteria they use to determine what counts as being "sketchy". It's not like it's hard to find reviews of whichever bands people think will be unjustly blacklisted so I don't see what there is to get upset over.

On a scale of 1-10 nazis, where 1 is having toured with Mgla and 10 is running their own DIY gas chamber in the Finnish wilderness, how many Nazis is Inquisition? More importantly, how many of their albums do I not have to buy before we have solved Nazism?

So, here’s the why to this specific approach to a policy. Promoting, and thus potentially financially supporting, Neo-Nazi and Nazi-adjacent metal musicians and/or labels risks lending material support to a movement that has been shown [paywalled] to acquire material support not only from direct financial donations, but from the associated culture (such as white power music, festivals, and so on). It is my conviction, as an expert in the study of social movements and with a fairly solid grounding in radicalization, that the real danger posed by supporting Nazi metal is funding white power/Neo-Nazi mobilization, which can and does result in violence aimed at minorities and LGBTQ persons. On a societal level, therefore, material support can indirectly put real people at danger of physical harm and death, without getting into the political ramifications of it all. As such, I will not tolerate the promotion of, defense of, or apologies for Neo-Nazi and Nazi-adjacent bands on AngryMetalGuy.com. This, therefore, is not a discussion about “separating art from the artist.” This is not a discussion about enforcing some kind of ideological purity. This policy recognizes that fascist and Neo-Nazi movements pose an existential threat to people as a fundamental aspect of its ideology. It follows, therefore, that the chance of denying them financial support is worth denying coverage to bands or labels who ideologically promote or are involved in Neo-Nazism, white supremacy, or fascism (or associated organizations). Additionally, not covering these bands is an important signal that we support a community where minorities and LGBTQ persons should feel welcome.

This paragraph was pretty funny. It must feel real good preventing all of those acts of violence and murder.

Every day I find myself shocked that the position of "White supremacy is bad and is inherently based on violence towards marginalized groups, therefore it is bad to give positive coverage to things associated with such ideologies because it leads, directly and indirectly, to financial support for people and organizations who inflict said violence towards marginalized people" would be controversial or worth snarky dismissals, but that's the metal scene for ya I guess.

Every day I find myself shocked that the position of "White supremacy is bad and is inherently based on violence towards marginalized groups, therefore it is bad to give positive coverage to things associated with such ideologies because it leads, directly and indirectly, to financial support for people and organizations who inflict said violence towards marginalized people" would be controversial or worth snarky dismissals, but that's the metal scene for ya I guess.

I sure hope they will back their new policy up with copious amounts of research into every band they decide to review from here on out - going through past releases, checking on whether the labels have released any "problematic" bands during the last 20+ years, checking whether the bands they review have ever played a festival with a "problematic" band, or share members with one, and so on.

The sheer disdain that some people have for anyone that vocally doesn't like actual neo-nazis is wild. Thinking Nazis and white supremacists suck makes us the bad guy now? Totally engrained at the scene at such a deep level that it's depressing.

I'll probably regret posting in here as I usually do any time I talk about politics on here, but yeah - it is some weird knee jerk reaction where they seem to assume we must all be saying stuff we don't actually believe in order to get clout or pose in some way. Lots of yammering about strawmans where they assume we're combing through every band's past to find out if they played with a problematic act 15 years ago - like nah we just don't fucking want to support fascists in any way, it isn't that complex.

I'm not sure where you're getting at. Sure the whole thing feels a little performative, but don't you believe that promoting genocidal and racist ideologies can lead to radicalization and real violence against ethnic minorities and/or members of the LGBTQ community?

Akhlys is a nazi band right now? Funny

Why is that funny? Kyle has put out multiple splits with bands with swastikas and celtic crosses in their logos, released on NSBM labels, and even wrote a song called "For Blood and Soil".

You don't even have to go back to "For Blood and Soil" to find some sketchy stuff. I didn't know this until recently, but he featured a speech of Julius Evola - who was a prominent fascist philosopher, on the latest Nightbringer album.

To be fair, that speech was about occultism. That doesn't mean Kyle isn't far right and most definitely a Nazi.

I hate fascists and nazi but I like their music I never have a moral problem to hear them…

Censorship is often a form of violence and risks having opposite effects(a friend say that nazi group are the more request to buy not for music but for image)now you ban nazi but you must ban every music that promote violence or misogyny etc etc..

Martin Heidegger maybe the most important philosopher of ‘900 was a nazi what we do with him?we ban him?or we study?