I was reading the Marduk thread and was about to post something, but thought it would maybe derail the thread, and I didn't want to do that, so I made this thread instead.

I wanted to know about bands you personnally can't seem to get into because of the people involved in said bands, for whatever reason. Actually I'd like to exclude far-right, white supremacist, NSBM or any fascist band from the discussion because these are very obvious, and we often have discussions about them, and I don't want to make yet another thread dedicated specifically to them.

Now why did I mention Marduk? Well, because I have a hard time actually getting interested in their music because Mortuus looks like a Grad-A piece of shit. The amount of videos of him assaulting fans, hitting people in the face without provocation, etc. is unbelievable. Like, I've heard some of Marduk's music, and it's decent enough, don't get me wrong. But yeah, Mortuus is one of the few people who seems like such a terrible human being all around, that it turns me off from his music. Kind of like Niklas Kvarforth with Shining.

Niklas Kvarforth seems like a genuinely despicable, malicious and sadistic human being. The guy seems to genuinely take pride in the fact that fans have killed themselves and/or attempted to kill themselves because of his music. I also can't seem to find any kind of motivation to listen to any of the Bethlehem material featuring him. At least they have recorded very little stuff with him, and Onielar is a vocalist/musician that I respect far more than him, so that's that.

I'm gonna go deafheaven but it's sort of cheating because it's not I believe any member is a douche, it's just something about the whole presentation seems soft to me, I guess I'm a kvlt motherfucker or something but yeah if I look at a band shot and half of them are wearing glasses it kinda just instinctively sends me a signal I probably won't enjoy it lol

Niklas Kvarforth seems like a genuinely despicable, malicious and sadistic human being.

Their looks fit the whole post-black metal look though. But I guess this, coupled with the fact that they have known a lot of success as a "black metal" band makes some people dislike them.

Oh, and I think McCoy used the f-word on some social media at some point. People got pissed and he apologized, IIRC.

I have never taken a deep dive into his music because of all the stuff I have heard. I did see them live once, and there was some strange stuff going on. People in the crowd didn't appreciate being spat on or having gobs of water spat all over them. Then again, I have heard a lot worse about him and his stage performances.

I have always wondered if people stop listening to a group because of things that have come up. In particular, groups like Inquisition and Vektor.

Yeah, but that's not why I don't particularly care for at least sunbather, which is the only one I actually bothered checking out, I don't hate them with a burning passion, I just remember listening to it with a old friend and I said well idk these riffs they just don't seem to have that sort of power, they felt meandering instead of direct, and of course he didn't agree cuz he was coming at it from a non metal curiosity, that kinda made me think maybe you gotta approach it from a non metal point of view but that's difficult especially considering who realistically the album was marketed towards

I was not huge into Inquisition, but I enjoyed the stuff I had heard from them. The fact that the guy is a nonce and a neo-nazi obviously did turn me off from ever listening to anything by them after that.

As for Vektor, I still listen to the music. The whole situation with Santo and his ex-girlfriend obviously seems to show that he needs counseling, and he doesn't strike me as a particularly nice person, but he's nowhere near as despicable as a Kvarforth or Dagon from Inquisition.

I can’t stand anything with Craig Pillard in the lineup, first and foremost because he’s a nazi but also because he seems like a really stupid human being. I read an interview( I don’t know if it was genuine, the grammar was terrible and the questions were horribly stupid) where he praise Adolf Hitler more than once, even when it had nothing to do with the original question.

Edit: Ok, perhaps Incantation first two records but that’s it.

Inquisition

First band that came to mind.

The fact that Dagon isn't rotting in a prison cell right now is mind boggling

And I actually used to really love their music back in college and high school

Bummer, but I don't regret purging their music from my Playlists and CDs

Literally all black metal I have been mostly turned off from, because it seems to turn out scumbags way too often. Also, I've never heard a black metal song that truly caught my attention and kept me coming back to it.

Literally all black metal I have been mostly turned off from, because it seems to turn out scumbags way too often. Also, I've never heard a black metal song that truly caught my attention and kept me coming back to it.

At the least, Cobalt and Panopticon ought to be good... Agalloch too despite the frontman's dumb shit.

Man, I won't argue that black metal has more then it's fair share of shitty people, but what you're saying relies on very backward logic. There are countless great black metal acts, composed of musicians who are very clearly not problematic in any way shape or form. You don't have to like black metal, but dismissing the entire genre based on the fact that some bm musicians are shitty people is total bullshit.

Listened to two of those. Neither of them warranted a re-listen.

Listened to two of those. Neither of them warranted a re-listen.

I think Bobby Liebling from Pentagram is a far worse case, didn't he beat up his elderly mother? That's a whole other level of being a despicable human being.

Didn't I say that I also dislike black metal because I've never heard any that caught my interest in any great way? It's not just because there are so many crappy people in the scene.

Didn't I say that I also dislike black metal because I've never heard any that caught my interest in any great way? It's not just because there are so many crappy people in the scene.

Gorgoroth is scumbag city with an arsonist, a rapist and a torturer. Never bothered with them outside of a few songs.

There is no doubt that Infernus is a supreme piece of shit.

Ghaal, on the other hand, is such a weirdo, I'm sure he believes he actually acted in self-defense when he kidnapped that dude and tortured him. Not that it makes any of this okay, but it's morbidly funny just how insane the guy is.

And who is the arsonist?

I find it hard to give fake Батюшка an earnest listen because of the schism.