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colin040
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:45 am 
 

Virgin Steele will release a new called album The Passion Of Dionysus June 30th.

1. The Gethsemane Effect 07:08
2. You'll Never See The Sun Again 09:20
3. A Song Of Possession 5:51
4. The Ritual Of Descent 12:41
5. Spiritual Warfare 7:50
6. Black Earth & Blood 2:24
7. The Passion Of Dionysus 8:09
8. To Bind & Kill A God 8:18
9. Unio Mystica 9:15
10. I Will Fear No Man For I Am A God 8:46

David DeFeis claims this new album will be a throwback to the epic/barbaric/Marriage/Invictus/Atreus-styled albums, but as long as we're talking about auto tuned vocals/whispered vocals / shitty drums, lack of Pursino in the guitar department, I'm sure this will be horrible.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:46 am 
 

colin040 wrote:
Virgin Steele will release a new called album The Passion Of Dionysus June 30th.

as long as we're talking about auto tuned vocals/whispered vocals / shitty drums, lack of Pursino in the guitar department, I'm sure this will be horrible.


Indeed. I'll check it out by have almost no hope for it.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:50 am 
 

I'm interested if only because I want to see/hear how much of a trainwreck this will be. Who knows, maybe DeFeis will surprise all of us and actually release something listenable (probably not).

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:32 am 
 

Fingers crossed!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:33 am 
 

Kalaratri wrote:
I'm interested if only because I want to see/hear how much of a trainwreck this will be. Who knows, maybe DeFeis will surprise all of us and actually release something listenable (probably not).


And maybe angels will fly out of my arse.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:05 am 
 

I can't wait to hear what plugin defeis used for the midi guitars.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:13 am 
 

The album cover:
Spoiler: show
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Image


The press release:
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VIRGIN STEELE PRESS RELEASE April 28th, 2023
New album THE PASSION OF DIONYSUS out on 30 June 2023
At a time when cultural innovation is being side-lined as never before and many unusual forms of music are succumbing to the temptation of the commercially more lucrative mainstream, Virgin Steele are the shining silver lining. For over 40 years, mastermind David DeFeis has kept one of the most imaginative bands in the power metal genre on track with his excellent songwriting and charismatic voice. At the same time, DeFeis has never stopped evolving as a composer, musician and producer, updating his symphonic-tinged sound with exciting new influences. He has already accomplished this many times over with classics like ‘Invictus’ (1998), ‘The House Of Atreus I & II’ (1999/2000) or ‘Visions Of Eden’ (2006). In his current album ‘The Passion Of Dionysus’, DeFeis surpasses himself in his unbridled creativity. Eight years after the acclaimed studio opus ‘Nocturnes Of Hellfire & Damnation’ (2015), DeFeis` brilliant signature maneuvers the album through a gripping parable about control and freedom, creating another highlight of the Virgin Steele career.
As usual, David DeFeis has chosen a downright epic theme that delves deep into the annals of human history, while maintaining a concrete reference to the present: „The album deals with the concept of duality. Where something is both one thing and its opposite simultaneously“, he explains the underlying message of the new record. „It obviously has to do with Dionysus and, as the title suggests, his “Passion” or suffering, and his coming to Thebes to avenge the slander of his mother, as well as punish the King of Thebes for denying his worship there. But that being said, more is going on.“ In ‘The Passion Of Dionysus’ DeFeis tells the epic struggle between the twin forces of control/restraint and freedom/release, as well as dealing with the question of “whether or not there is room in society for the irrational, the wild, the letting-go aspects of ourselves.”
There is no doubt that David DeFeis is not only an ingenious composer and musician, but also a true visionary who – with his band – has the perfect medium at his disposal to evolve both humanly and culturally: „I see Virgin Steele as a way of life. The band is my vehicle with which I traverse vast oceans of experience. We are always doing things our own way, on our own specific terms.“ Looking at the grandiose ‘The Passion Of Dionysus’, it’s no wonder at all that his fans accept this approach unconditionally!


Still no drummer listed in the line-up, so I assume the drums will be programmed just like the last couple of albums :(

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:36 am 
 

MatsBG wrote:
The album cover:
Spoiler: show
Image

Image


The press release:
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VIRGIN STEELE PRESS RELEASE April 28th, 2023
New album THE PASSION OF DIONYSUS out on 30 June 2023
At a time when cultural innovation is being side-lined as never before and many unusual forms of music are succumbing to the temptation of the commercially more lucrative mainstream, Virgin Steele are the shining silver lining. For over 40 years, mastermind David DeFeis has kept one of the most imaginative bands in the power metal genre on track with his excellent songwriting and charismatic voice. At the same time, DeFeis has never stopped evolving as a composer, musician and producer, updating his symphonic-tinged sound with exciting new influences. He has already accomplished this many times over with classics like ‘Invictus’ (1998), ‘The House Of Atreus I & II’ (1999/2000) or ‘Visions Of Eden’ (2006). In his current album ‘The Passion Of Dionysus’, DeFeis surpasses himself in his unbridled creativity. Eight years after the acclaimed studio opus ‘Nocturnes Of Hellfire & Damnation’ (2015), DeFeis` brilliant signature maneuvers the album through a gripping parable about control and freedom, creating another highlight of the Virgin Steele career.
As usual, David DeFeis has chosen a downright epic theme that delves deep into the annals of human history, while maintaining a concrete reference to the present: „The album deals with the concept of duality. Where something is both one thing and its opposite simultaneously“, he explains the underlying message of the new record. „It obviously has to do with Dionysus and, as the title suggests, his “Passion” or suffering, and his coming to Thebes to avenge the slander of his mother, as well as punish the King of Thebes for denying his worship there. But that being said, more is going on.“ In ‘The Passion Of Dionysus’ DeFeis tells the epic struggle between the twin forces of control/restraint and freedom/release, as well as dealing with the question of “whether or not there is room in society for the irrational, the wild, the letting-go aspects of ourselves.”
There is no doubt that David DeFeis is not only an ingenious composer and musician, but also a true visionary who – with his band – has the perfect medium at his disposal to evolve both humanly and culturally: „I see Virgin Steele as a way of life. The band is my vehicle with which I traverse vast oceans of experience. We are always doing things our own way, on our own specific terms.“ Looking at the grandiose ‘The Passion Of Dionysus’, it’s no wonder at all that his fans accept this approach unconditionally!


Still no drummer listed in the line-up, so I assume the drums will be programmed just like the last couple of albums :(


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There is no doubt that David DeFeis is not only an ingenious composer and musician, but also a true visionary who – with his band – has the perfect medium at his disposal to evolve both humanly and culturally: „I see Virgin Steele as a way of life. The band is my vehicle with which I traverse vast oceans of experience. We are always doing things our own way, on our own specific terms.“ Looking at the grandiose ‘The Passion Of Dionysus’, it’s no wonder at all that his fans accept this approach unconditionally!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 12:30 pm 
 

MatsBG wrote:
The album cover:
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thats beyond bad. if he couldnt be bothered/afford to outsource the album cover i am worried about the production as well. possibly made on audacity with no plugins...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 1:10 pm 
 

I can only dream this will be a return to form. Can't believe how he gave us such classics back in the day. Now he's given us some bad shit. Prove us wrong DeFeis!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 1:38 pm 
 

Be nice if it was good - you never know I suppose. He has such cool song titles I always hope it will be.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 2:08 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
Be nice if it was good - you never know I suppose. He has such cool song titles I always hope it will be.


Got to admit that 'Spiritual Warfare' is a cool title, but then again, 'I Will Fear No Man For I Am A God' is not. :lol:

My guess is that this will end up sounding like TBLB - just with more guitars worse vocal lines. There'll be 3 singles out before the album's out and I'm sure that we'll get to hear the first one soon.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 2:13 pm 
 

"I Will Fear No Man..." is an incredibly badass title. He just always has a way of making them sound epic, but then the music for the past 10+ years has been like first pass demo shit.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:28 pm 
 

It’s probably going to be bad but at least it won’t be the kind of bad that takes five hours to sit through.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:39 pm 
 

the last few albums were not programmed drums fyi, its mostly DeFeis on an electronic kit. Visions and Bacchanalia were Gilchriest on an electronic kit.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:54 pm 
 

MatsBG wrote:
The album cover:
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Is he gonna cover Soundgarden's "Jesus Christ Pose"? o_O

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:01 pm 
 

Lol. I kinda like it. It's trashy in an underground cinema sort of way
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:09 pm 
 

It's a pretty bad cover, but if the music is actually worth hearing, it'd be kind of funny in retrospect.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:15 pm 
 

I'm with colin, I foresee something closer to Black Light Bacchanalia. And I like that album even if it's a bit of a moody slog at times.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:25 pm 
 

I don't like the cover. Dave DeFeis is a very talented man but has not been able to match the quality of the The Marriage of Heaven and Hell albums. There is something foul about this band after The House of Atreus.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:56 am 
 

akb88 wrote:
MatsBG wrote:
The album cover:
Spoiler: show
Image

Image


The press release:
Spoiler: show
VIRGIN STEELE PRESS RELEASE April 28th, 2023
New album THE PASSION OF DIONYSUS out on 30 June 2023
At a time when cultural innovation is being side-lined as never before and many unusual forms of music are succumbing to the temptation of the commercially more lucrative mainstream, Virgin Steele are the shining silver lining. For over 40 years, mastermind David DeFeis has kept one of the most imaginative bands in the power metal genre on track with his excellent songwriting and charismatic voice. At the same time, DeFeis has never stopped evolving as a composer, musician and producer, updating his symphonic-tinged sound with exciting new influences. He has already accomplished this many times over with classics like ‘Invictus’ (1998), ‘The House Of Atreus I & II’ (1999/2000) or ‘Visions Of Eden’ (2006). In his current album ‘The Passion Of Dionysus’, DeFeis surpasses himself in his unbridled creativity. Eight years after the acclaimed studio opus ‘Nocturnes Of Hellfire & Damnation’ (2015), DeFeis` brilliant signature maneuvers the album through a gripping parable about control and freedom, creating another highlight of the Virgin Steele career.
As usual, David DeFeis has chosen a downright epic theme that delves deep into the annals of human history, while maintaining a concrete reference to the present: „The album deals with the concept of duality. Where something is both one thing and its opposite simultaneously“, he explains the underlying message of the new record. „It obviously has to do with Dionysus and, as the title suggests, his “Passion” or suffering, and his coming to Thebes to avenge the slander of his mother, as well as punish the King of Thebes for denying his worship there. But that being said, more is going on.“ In ‘The Passion Of Dionysus’ DeFeis tells the epic struggle between the twin forces of control/restraint and freedom/release, as well as dealing with the question of “whether or not there is room in society for the irrational, the wild, the letting-go aspects of ourselves.”
There is no doubt that David DeFeis is not only an ingenious composer and musician, but also a true visionary who – with his band – has the perfect medium at his disposal to evolve both humanly and culturally: „I see Virgin Steele as a way of life. The band is my vehicle with which I traverse vast oceans of experience. We are always doing things our own way, on our own specific terms.“ Looking at the grandiose ‘The Passion Of Dionysus’, it’s no wonder at all that his fans accept this approach unconditionally!


Still no drummer listed in the line-up, so I assume the drums will be programmed just like the last couple of albums :(


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There is no doubt that David DeFeis is not only an ingenious composer and musician, but also a true visionary who – with his band – has the perfect medium at his disposal to evolve both humanly and culturally: „I see Virgin Steele as a way of life. The band is my vehicle with which I traverse vast oceans of experience. We are always doing things our own way, on our own specific terms.“ Looking at the grandiose ‘The Passion Of Dionysus’, it’s no wonder at all that his fans accept this approach unconditionally!


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Well it's basically a David DeFeis solo project at this point. There's even no lines to read between, he explicitly states that in this release, referring to himself. I read the interviewer is also fake and everything; press releases, questions about the band, artwork is all solely orchestrated by him. I figure so is the production and that's why all the new music sucks - he's calling all the shots. This new album is going to suck just like all the recent ones.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:06 pm 
 

DeFeis always wrote the majority of the music though, from what I can tell. I reckon Pursino contributed riffs but that DeFeis was the one constructing them into songs.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:29 pm 
 

I just want to hear DeFeis's classic ''Uooooooooo!'' and ''Iyaaaaaaaaa!'' on competently written and executed songs.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:42 pm 
 

Kabooom wrote:
I just want to hear DeFeis's classic ''Uooooooooo!'' and ''Iyaaaaaaaaa!'' on competently written and executed songs.


With or without autotune? ;)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:43 pm 
 

Kabooom wrote:
I just want to hear DeFeis's classic ''Uooooooooo!'' and ''Iyaaaaaaaaa!'' on competently written and executed songs.


Oh please no! He can't cut it anymore with the "Uoooooooo". Persephone from the last album was competently written and then ruined by shitty vocals. He sounds good these days only when he's not doing any of that theatrical bullshit, like on this ballad (which is also a bit much because dude forgot how to edit)



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DeFeis always wrote the majority of the music though, from what I can tell. I reckon Pursino contributed riffs but that DeFeis was the one constructing them into songs.


Pursino doing songwriting with riff-heavy songs resulted in some of their best material historically like Blood Of The Saints and Twilight of The Gods. It's a solo DeFeis show now with a lot of emphasis on keys and weird vocalizations.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:53 pm 
 

I asked someone who's heard the new record about this. He says that it sounds like the last two albums and is full of fake high pitched vocals and prominent keys.

I'm sure we're in for something Greek, alright... a Greek tragedy that is! :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:37 pm 
 

Pursino had no writing credits on Visions or Bacchanalia but was co-credited for six songs on Nocturnes, y'all

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:32 pm 
 

I squealed like a teenager when I saw the announcement. I love Virgin Steele, especially the new shitty stuff. It's so fascinating. I hope he does another YouTube Documentary to go along with it. If you haven't seen those, gran a six-pack and throw one on. It's a WILD night.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:05 am 
 

Lol, I’m ready for this. At the very least it’ll be a comedic train wreck that will inspire nose squirted liquid laughter. Do love the classic early output of the band though!
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2023 12:13 pm 
 

Virgin Steele is one of my favorite bands and ascended to that status very quickly when I discovered them right at the end of 2018, so I wish I could be excited about the first release of new material that has occurred since then, but I know it would be foolish to be optimistic. Maybe the tight and organized track list compared with the potpourri of whatever was going on across Seven Devil's Moonshine at least shows a certain level of focus? No covers or orchestral versions of old songs or weird interludes and screwing around, just new stuff. Come on David, surprise us and give us something on the level of The Black Light Bacchanalia.

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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2023 12:27 pm 
 

Problem is that even if the tunes themselves will be good (which I doubt in the first place), DeFeis is capable of ruining about every decent moment with his auto tuned whispering and squeals. Could you imagine the band's classic songs with modern DeFeis on vocals? :(

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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2023 12:31 pm 
 

Literally all it would take for another passable album would be for him to quit the ridiculous noises he makes and just sing some OK vocal lines again. Lots of their stuff since 2010 or so has felt so overdone with weird, cluttered parts and odd sounds that do not work. It seems like he's really trying to be creative which is cool... it just doesn't really work as a listening experience.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2023 1:18 pm 
 

Take the vocal lines of 'Lucifer's Hammer', now get rid of the auto-tune and those ridiculous screams and I'll be good.

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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2023 8:49 pm 
 

the production is a way bigger deal to me than the vox

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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2023 11:31 am 
 

I'm going to check this out as a Virgin Steele fan, but not expecting any sort of deviation from the prolonged trainwreck which has been going on for over a decade now. It really sucks, too, because the ideas behind the music DeFeis makes are usually pretty good.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2023 4:11 pm 
 

colin040 wrote:
Take the vocal lines of 'Lucifer's Hammer', now get rid of the auto-tune and those ridiculous screams and I'll be good.


thanks for posting this, i got curious and i been banging the song the whole day... :) its awesome \m/

if anyone fancies recommending any more good VS songs post-Age of Consent, erm, I mean house of Atreus, please do.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2023 7:04 pm 
 

aloof wrote:
colin040 wrote:
Take the vocal lines of 'Lucifer's Hammer', now get rid of the auto-tune and those ridiculous screams and I'll be good.


thanks for posting this, i got curious and i been banging the song the whole day... :) its awesome \m/

if anyone fancies recommending any more good VS songs post-Age of Consent, erm, I mean house of Atreus, please do.


VoE and TBLB are both recommended in full, but for (relatively) heavier tracks:

Immortal I Stand (The Birth of Adam)
Black Light on Black
Childslayer

By the Hammer of Zeus (and the Wrecking Ball of Thor)
The Bread of Wickedness
Necropolis (He Answers Them with Death)

Most of the other songs on those albums have significant soft sections or are full ballads, but they're still good.

And yeah Lucifer's Hammer has a great main riff, I can look past the vocals and auto tune and just not care.

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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2023 8:35 pm 
 

Most of Nocturnes and Ghost Harvest 1 are actually damned good if you can get past the production. Don't believe the hate.

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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2023 10:30 pm 
 

Chaosmonger wrote:
Most of Nocturnes and Ghost Harvest 1 are actually damned good if you can get past the production. Don't believe the hate.


Green Dusk Blues and Feral at the very least are fantastic. I keep gravitating back to those and haven't given the rest of Ghost Harvest 1 too much of a shake. Seven Dead Within and Psychic Slaughter a little bit but those don't do too much for me.

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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2023 11:59 pm 
 

oh man I fucking love Psychic Slaughter. That chorus is so good. "Gods don't weep, they don't tear their hair. Gods don't weep, they don't howl despair."

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