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| Author: | HelluvaGuy [ Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Metal with a Positive Message |
What bands do you think try to have a positive message in their lyrics? Hatebreed is one that comes to mind. Who else? |
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| Author: | Forever Underground [ Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
The first thing that comes to mind is Lykathea Aflame's Elvenfris and Skyforest's later work. |
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| Author: | Chaosmonger [ Sat Jun 03, 2023 1:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
tons of power metal, go there |
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| Author: | jimbies [ Sat Jun 03, 2023 4:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Hatebreed is a metal band? Huh. Never knew. Chaosmonger wrote: tons of power metal, go there Yeah, totally. First few that came to mind right away "All Over The Nations" by Helloween, "Faster Than Light" by Unleash The Archers, "Land Of The Miracle" by Edguy. Some modern Metallica fits the bill. Atlas, Rise! has positive undertones in the lyrics. Most of the songs on the new record face the darkness and offer some hope for the future. |
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| Author: | Nocturnal_Evil [ Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
One name, two words: Freedom Call |
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| Author: | HighwayCorsair [ Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
High Spirits |
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| Author: | Dullahan [ Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Chaosmonger wrote: tons of power metal, go there This. If you ever need some simple (if corny) encouragement after a nasty break-up, check out "Sworn in the Metal Wind" by Lost Horizon. The fact that the song also rips certainly helps. Also, if you enjoy metalcore, Killswitch Engage (Jesse Leach's era) has many lyrics with positive messages about staying true to yourself and facing hardships. Sure, most aren't breathtaking in terms of prose, but they're solid enough. |
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| Author: | Xymosys [ Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
...and if you're not into power metal, you can always check Samael (newer releases), Gojira, Devin Townsend, Anathema (newer releases)... |
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| Author: | Dungeon_Vic [ Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Gamma Ray's Lust for Life helped me a lot with its simple message, which in my mind was stronger because it was coming from someone starting over. The solo also rips. |
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| Author: | DemonFilth2001 [ Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Queensryche has a bunch of "positive songs." |
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| Author: | HelluvaGuy [ Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
DemonFilth2001 wrote: Queensryche has a bunch of "positive songs." Is Best I Can really Metal? |
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| Author: | Exister [ Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Darkest Hour's Deliver Us and The Human Romance |
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| Author: | Chaosmonger [ Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Dungeon_Vic wrote: Gamma Ray's Lust for Life helped me a lot with its simple message, which in my mind was stronger because it was coming from someone starting over. The solo also rips. This part gives me chills: "Let us fly away, let us praise the days When the lust for life is stronger than the fear Though we shiver and shake And we sometimes need a break It's the lust for life that never disappears" |
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| Author: | Rodman [ Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Stratovarius - 'Hold On To Your Dream' Obvious Helloween worship, but a great song nonetheless. |
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| Author: | LilTito [ Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Shining |
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| Author: | Thy Shrine [ Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Pantera to me is very positive and uplifting it's not about being a tough guy physically it's about being tough mentally and I think that's extremely important and positive |
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| Author: | Disembodied [ Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Thy Shrine wrote: Pantera to me is very positive and uplifting it's not about being a tough guy physically it's about being tough mentally and I think that's extremely important and positive This kind of mental toughness? Quote: Why would you help anyone who doesn't want it
Doesn't need it, doesn't want your shit advice When a mind's made up to go ahead and die? What's done is done and gone, so why cry? |
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| Author: | VaderCrush [ Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Devin Townsend has been doing this for awhile, but his newest album especially is focused mostly around positive messages |
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| Author: | Thy Shrine [ Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
VaderCrush wrote: Devin Townsend has been doing this for awhile, but his newest album especially is focused mostly around positive messages Disembodied wrote: Thy Shrine wrote: Pantera to me is very positive and uplifting it's not about being a tough guy physically it's about being tough mentally and I think that's extremely important and positive This kind of mental toughness? Quote: Why would you help anyone who doesn't want it Doesn't need it, doesn't want your shit advice When a mind's made up to go ahead and die? What's done is done and gone, so why cry? You failed with your gotcha thing, that clearly just means there's no point exhausting energy on things that aren't gonna change either way I fail to see how you actually think you countered what I said in any way lol |
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| Author: | Crossbones [ Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
I know Iron Maiden's The Prisoner is based off of the old television series, but the chorus is so uplifting. Real fist-in-the-air stuff that inspires you to get out there and do something with yourself. |
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| Author: | Disembodied [ Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Thy Shrine wrote: You failed with your gotcha thing, that clearly just means there's no point exhausting energy on things that aren't gonna change either way I fail to see how you actually think you countered what I said in any way lol I wasn't trying to counter it. I was asking if you think the kind of mental toughness that follows through on a suicide plan qualifies as positive. I'm not sure myself. |
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| Author: | Thy Shrine [ Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Disembodied wrote: Thy Shrine wrote: You failed with your gotcha thing, that clearly just means there's no point exhausting energy on things that aren't gonna change either way I fail to see how you actually think you countered what I said in any way lol I wasn't trying to counter it. I was asking if you think the kind of mental toughness that follows through on a suicide plan qualifies as positive. I'm not sure myself. Maybe not very positive in that example I misinterpreted it the first time, but an example like that at the very least is just kind of a realistic message, it's basically like if a person wants to die like actually has a deathwish after a certain point you just can't convince them otherwise they kinda have to figure that one out on their own, I interpret it as at that point if you're the person watching that you kinda just gotta accept you aren't gonna change them It's not exactly positive it's more so Pantera to me tends to be very Truthful and that kind of dead honesty is harsh as fuck sometimes but blinding yourself to it is just gonna fuck a person up about as much |
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| Author: | pentalarc22 [ Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Some may consider it the exact opposite, but Crowbar fills that role for me. THeir general thing seems to about surviving, even when you're to the point where you really don't want to anymore. How else can you explain: "And through all the darkness the knowledge I've gained Will carry me. Building the mountain again and again. Alone in this fight I believe in myself IT carries me Buliding the mountain again and again." --- Crowbar "The Cemetery Angels" |
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| Author: | RainyTheBusinessPerson [ Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
I listen to doom metal and black metal a lot, which means I unfortunately can't think of a lot of examples (especially since most I'm familiar with were already mentioned here). But I have few: Black Sabbath - The Wizard Anthrax - H8 Red Stratovarius - Find Your Own Voice Lost Horizon - Perfect Warrior Running Wild - Rebel at Heart Gamma Ray - Dethrone Tyranny Dio - Rainbow in the Dark Helloween - I'm Alive Aephanemer has some positive songs too, I can't remember any names though. In general I don't have a lot, since most of what I know (Helloween, Stratovarius, power metal in general, etc) has already been mentioned. |
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| Author: | Aldrahn333 [ Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Lordi - "Hard Rock hallelujah" I haven't the slightest idea what it sings about, but I think it is overtly covered in saccharine positivity since it was enough to win that Eurosong (fest?) garbage. |
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| Author: | OCD means Death [ Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Gamma Ray! |
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| Author: | Abominatrix [ Sun Jul 02, 2023 4:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Lots of heavy and power metal I'm sure. Still, I never really thought that having a message was somethign to strive for in music. Surely lyrics all mean something to someone, especially the person who wrote them, and even music without words means something to someone and is open to being interpreted by an audience. The "message", as you put it, is whatever you take away from it. Describing music as being something that has "messages" just makes me think of religious stuff. You know, "Spread the message! God is here! Jesus died for you!" is that a positive or a negative message? I really don't know....what do you think? It probably depends entirely on you. I don't particularly like the idea that someone died for me, personally. I suppose to some out there NSBM has a completely positive message, too, even though to most of us it would be antithetical to our entire way of life. All I know is that metal always made me feel pretty damn good. I think I like Iron maiden's "message" -- that it's cool to learn about literature and history and such even if you hate school and aren't any good at it. I imagine many people who discovered them as a young person were very inspired by that. Metal has encouraged lots of people to pick up instruments and learn to play them very well; I also think that's a remarkably positive thing. And also of course, we have to remember how important it is that our swords stay wet, like a... Oh never mind. |
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| Author: | Chaosmonger [ Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Disembodied wrote: Thy Shrine wrote: You failed with your gotcha thing, that clearly just means there's no point exhausting energy on things that aren't gonna change either way I fail to see how you actually think you countered what I said in any way lol I wasn't trying to counter it. I was asking if you think the kind of mental toughness that follows through on a suicide plan qualifies as positive. I'm not sure myself. Vulgar and Far Beyond are what Thy Shrine is talking about. Trendkill is another matter. Phil was in the deep depths of drug addiction then. |
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| Author: | Gemini 7 Rising [ Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
It doesn't get much more positive than this. And its message also remains realistic and attainable all the way. |
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| Author: | werewolfgraveyard [ Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Nobody's said Escape? The Metallica song, of course. |
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| Author: | Naught [ Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Wytch Hazel: Their music is really awesome as well if you enjoy the classic Jethro Tull and Gentle Giant influences. Fantastic band. |
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| Author: | kovner1972 [ Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Gorefest, especially on False and Erase albums. |
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| Author: | Judas Maiden [ Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Helloween immediately comes to mind. Quote: Well you can do it
There's nothing to it When all others turn their backs on you There is still yourself to prove it to that You can do it There's nothing to it If the whole damn world abandoned you You're the only one worth listening to |
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| Author: | SanPeron [ Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
You guys probably don't listen to this band because their lyrics are in Spanish, but Almafuerte from my country, has very positive lyrics about helping friends in need, loving your country and family, and working hard to be the best version of yourself. Ricardo Iorio, the lead singer and composer of the band, lived a very difficult life, and he created the three most important heavy metal bands in Argentina. |
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| Author: | Ace_Rimmer [ Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Thy Shrine wrote: Disembodied wrote: Thy Shrine wrote: You failed with your gotcha thing, that clearly just means there's no point exhausting energy on things that aren't gonna change either way I fail to see how you actually think you countered what I said in any way lol I wasn't trying to counter it. I was asking if you think the kind of mental toughness that follows through on a suicide plan qualifies as positive. I'm not sure myself. Maybe not very positive in that example I misinterpreted it the first time, but an example like that at the very least is just kind of a realistic message, it's basically like if a person wants to die like actually has a deathwish after a certain point you just can't convince them otherwise they kinda have to figure that one out on their own, I interpret it as at that point if you're the person watching that you kinda just gotta accept you aren't gonna change them Yeah that is how I interpret that. You can't destroy yourself trying to save someone who refuses to grab the life preserver you keep trying to offer them, or think you are offering them. Eventaully you do have to accept it and hope they find somethign inside themselves to live for. Usually they end up in the ground though. Not letting things you can't control drag you down and all that. |
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| Author: | Thy Shrine [ Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
I like the part of Material world paranoia the last lines where he says experience your dreams don't let this prefab culture waste your time, material wealth is yours but the promise of a better future is nothing but a lie, I actually remember reading the lyric sheet once and getting shivers all through my body just cuz I thought, that's extremely uplifting The chorus of no need to be human by coroner always struck me as a very sweet thing to say to somebody with lots of problems, it always reminds me of my ex girlfriend for some reason. I think if I got married, doubt it tho, but I'd definitely play destiny by death, I swear to God that must be a love song, the lyrics are way too sweet, and I know a couple girls who would fuckin melt if I said that shit to them. |
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| Author: | Gradus the Bungler [ Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
HelluvaGuy wrote: What bands do you think try to have a positive message in their lyrics? Hatebreed is one that comes to mind. Who else? DemonFilth2001 wrote: Fuck Helluvaguy
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| Author: | thewrll [ Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
SanPeron wrote: You guys probably don't listen to this band because their lyrics are in Spanish, but Almafuerte from my country, has very positive lyrics about helping friends in need, loving your country and family, and working hard to be the best version of yourself. Ricardo Iorio, the lead singer and composer of the band, lived a very difficult life, and he created the three most important heavy metal bands in Argentina. Why would we not be listening to music in a different language? You are aware that most of the top black metal bands don't exactly sing in english? |
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| Author: | SanPeron [ Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
thewrll wrote: SanPeron wrote: You guys probably don't listen to this band because their lyrics are in Spanish, but Almafuerte from my country, has very positive lyrics about helping friends in need, loving your country and family, and working hard to be the best version of yourself. Ricardo Iorio, the lead singer and composer of the band, lived a very difficult life, and he created the three most important heavy metal bands in Argentina. Why would we not be listening to music in a different language? You are aware that most of the top black metal bands don't exactly sing in english? Hope you like them, the most important thing about Iorio's bands is the lyrics, they talk to the blue collar worker from the province in a very poetic way, they mix tango with thrash metal too i will give you an example, hope you can enjoy it. |
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| Author: | Sestren [ Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Metal with a Positive Message |
Naught wrote: Wytch Hazel: Their music is really awesome as well if you enjoy the classic Jethro Tull and Gentle Giant influences. Fantastic band. I second this big time. Barely started listening to them a month ago and am not into much religious bands because it's hard to find one, let alone a great one. The only other band I listen to even though I haven't for a long time is Theocracy because they haven't put out new material for years. Wytch Hazel is now my favorite Christian metal band. Hopefully Theocracy's new album can knock it out of the park when they get it done and is better than their last lackluster one. |
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