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Gravetemplar wrote:

I really like Ulcerate (probably my favourite death metal band) but you are in the wrong in here. What shaped and made the so called "dissonant death metal" sub-genre more popular was clearly Gorguts - Obscura / Immolation - Close to a World Below.

I can't speak for Gorguts album Obscura since I only heard it once (maybe). My recollection of it was that it was more of a progressive and/or technical death metal album but I don't really know. The albums reputation is great though and based on that alone its probably a classic.

I disagree on Immolation however. I don't think they really do what Ulcerate came to do decades later. Apart from both being death metal I don't really see early (or later) Immolation as playing in the same sub-sub-genre ( :-P

) as Ulcerate.

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As per the topic "classics of their genre" I have mixed feelings about the term. Are "classics of their genre" popular albums that people revere for no other reason than them being popular? [. . .] Which takes me back to my previous question, are "classics" just popular albums?

A classic album isn't "popular albums that people revere for no other reason than them being popular" per definition. However it is probably a byproduct of it being a classic. But it is really about the perception of large amounts of people. A classic album can't be an album people don't know about. It has to be something that broke through to many people in one way or another.

A classic album is something that might be genre defining. Black Sabbaths self titled could be mentioned here. It is rarely the first band which becomes the classic band but you could argue that the first band who makes it big usually ends up having a classic album (or more). Or it could be an album which is viewed as the peak of a genre. Perhaps Behemoths "the satanist" could fit here. I'm not sure if any black metal album, band or person in a band has had more mainstream breakthrough.

Tons of genre classics aren't well known to anybody other than metalheads deep into said genre. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of metalheads who only listen to the more mainstream bands have no idea who diSEMBOWELMENT or Morbid Saint are, but would you really dispute Transcendence Into the Peripheral or Spectrum of Death's status as classics of their respective scene?

Also, you should relisten to both Immolation and Gorguts because the other poster is correct in that they, not Ulcerate, kicked off "dissonant death metal". Ulcerate certainly took that approach and put their own singular take on it, but to imply that they have nothing in common with Immolation is not accurate.

This kind of comes across as you crapping on the suggestions here and criticizing that people are just listing favourites, and then you follow up by naming albums you like, for reasons that very much boil down to catering to your personal tastes and are very much subjective.

FLIPPITYFLOOP wrote:

Yeah I mean that really is all I was doing. Lol. I feel like that's all these threads are since it's impossible to really nail down what a classic is. The Satanist or Vektor probably are about the closest answers we can get since they get named in such a widespread way a lot, and that's why I personally always find these threads to be a bit baffling really. In the end the thread does just ask what "we consider" so eh whatever, sorry for being an asshole about it - listing favorites and whatnot is a pastime of any forum at the end of the day...

I feel like everyone needs to at least check out Ironbound and The Electric Age as modern thrash classics.

Zelkiiro wrote:

I feel like everyone needs to at least check out Ironbound and The Electric Age as modern thrash classics.

Overproduced, and vocals mixed too high.

FLIPPITYFLOOP wrote:

Vektor - Terminal Redux

Mgla: With hearts towards none

Ulcerate: The destroyers of all

I think The White Goddess by Atlantean Kodex qualifies. Basically a flawless representation of their sound, and the sound of epic heavy doom.

In atmospheric black, Paysage d'Hiver also seemed to make a sudden rise from obscurity. Im Wald will probably be remembered by many, though IMO it's probably not as close to "masterpiece" status as some of his earlier stuff. (I don't think I've given it as many proper listens as it needs, hence "probably.")

Blood Incantation - Starspawn (they went from "who the fuck is this?" to practically the whole death metal scene not being able to shut up about them - and for good reason)

Power Trip - Nightmare Logic (an already growing band became a huge sensation overnight)

Agalloch - Marrow Of The Spirit (while not part of the beginning trio of albums, still hailed as one of their best)

Pallbearer - Foundations Of Burden (see Power Trip and Deafheaven - personally not a Pallbearer fan, but they exploded in popularity with this record)

Ironbound is good, but not classic. There's a third of forgettable filler on there.

The lack of Triptykon and Arch/Matheos in this threat disturbs me.

Bronze Age wrote:

Angra - Omni

Their magnum opus by a wide margin, IMO.

Without a doubt my answer on this topic has to be "Death" by Teitanblood.

lennonlikesmetal wrote:

Zelkiiro wrote:

I feel like everyone needs to at least check out Ironbound and The Electric Age as modern thrash classics.

Overproduced, and vocals mixed too high.

...Is that supposed to mean anything?

Forever Underground wrote:

Without a doubt my answer on this topic has to be "Death" by Teitanblood.

Yes! Monstruous album!

I still have a hard time conveying just how truly amazing this album is. It's savage, takes all the raw energy, intensity and roughness of the rawest forms of black metal, mixes that with the most massive, bone crushing, hard hitting and brutal death metal there is, yet somehow it's not just a primitive and brutal record. It manages to be sophisticated in a weird raw, brutal and primal way, without being just another war metal album among dozens of others. Good pick!

StarGazer's "A Merging to the Boundless" would be my nomination..

Can truly a band achieve "classic" status when everything in metal has already been said and done prior to the last 25 years?

First fragment - Gloire eternelle

Forever Underground wrote:

Without a doubt my answer on this topic has to be "Death" by Teitanblood.

HeavenDuff wrote:

Forever Underground wrote:

Without a doubt my answer on this topic has to be "Death" by Teitanblood.

I think Death is the best extreme metal album ever recorded but Seven Chalices had a bigger impact on the scene.

Yeah, I get what you mean. It's hard to really define what makes a classic album, but to me it definitely has to include impact on the scene, how well the album aged (or how well we think it will age), the unicity of the album, the quality of the music, etc. So yeah, someone could definitely make a case for Seven Chalices over Death, but Death is just that good in my opinion, that it will most likely be considered a classic in years to come.

Back on topic, StarGazer's "A Merging to the Boundless" would be my nomination..

Author:	des91 [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:43 am ]
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I know DiSanto is not the best dude in the world but look everyone, Terminal Redux is a goddamn masterpiece of Extreme Thrash.

Author:	poormouth100 [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:31 am ]
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dike wrote: Gravetemplar wrote: I really like Ulcerate (probably my favourite death metal band) but you are in the wrong in here. What shaped and made the so called "dissonant death metal" sub-genre more popular was clearly Gorguts - Obscura / Immolation - Close to a World Below. I can't speak for Gorguts album Obscura since I only heard it once (maybe). My recollection of it was that it was more of a progressive and/or technical death metal album but I don't really know. The albums reputation is great though and based on that alone its probably a classic. I disagree on Immolation however. I don't think they really do what Ulcerate came to do decades later. Apart from both being death metal I don't really see early (or later) Immolation as playing in the same sub-sub-genre ( ) as Ulcerate. Quote: As per the topic "classics of their genre" I have mixed feelings about the term. Are "classics of their genre" popular albums that people revere for no other reason than them being popular? [. . .] Which takes me back to my previous question, are "classics" just popular albums? A classic album isn't "popular albums that people revere for no other reason than them being popular" per definition. However it is probably a byproduct of it being a classic. But it is really about the perception of large amounts of people. A classic album can't be an album people don't know about. It has to be something that broke through to many people in one way or another. A classic album is something that might be genre defining. Black Sabbaths self titled could be mentioned here. It is rarely the first band which becomes the classic band but you could argue that the first band who makes it big usually ends up having a classic album (or more). Or it could be an album which is viewed as the peak of a genre. Perhaps Behemoths "the satanist" could fit here. I'm not sure if any black metal album, band or person in a band has had more mainstream breakthrough. Tons of genre classics aren't well known to anybody other than metalheads deep into said genre. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of metalheads who only listen to the more mainstream bands have no idea who diSEMBOWELMENT or Morbid Saint are, but would you really dispute Transcendence Into the Peripheral or Spectrum of Death's status as classics of their respective scene? Also, you should relisten to both Immolation and Gorguts because the other poster is correct in that they, not Ulcerate, kicked off "dissonant death metal". Ulcerate certainly took that approach and put their own singular take on it, but to imply that they have nothing in common with Immolation is not accurate.

Author:	brain hammer [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:06 am ]
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Accept - Blood Of The Nations Overkill - Ironbound Autopsy - Macabre Eternal Voivod - Target Earth Satan - Life Sentence Vektor - Terminal Redux Darkthrone - Arctic Thunder Power Trip - Nightmare Logic Cirith Ungol - Forever Black Helloween - Helloween Thinking it over, Overkill and Power Trip are solid candidates for classic thrash status. Vektor was a tougher choice, but I thought Terminal was more ambitious than Outer Isolation. The other thrash album I pondered giving a spot to was Heathen “Evolution Of Chaos.” Accept, Autopsy, Cirith Ungol, and Voivod…those might fall into the “incredible comeback” category, but not necessarily as individual genre classics. I struggle to grasp what genre Cirith Ungol & Voivod actually are in the first place. Arctic Thunder isn’t a comeback, but it does represent Darkthrone getting serious again and is a blueprint for the three albums that have followed. Definitely the start of a new era, but how significant or classic the album would be in the black metal genre remains up for debate. Finally, the self titled Helloween album. I can confidently call that one a modern classic of Euro Power Metal. The novelty of having all three singers in the mix and the high quality of the songs goes a long way towards making that one an instant classic.

Author:	dike [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:34 am ]
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poormouth100 wrote: Tons of genre classics aren't well known to anybody other than metalheads deep into said genre. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of metalheads who only listen to the more mainstream bands have no idea who diSEMBOWELMENT or Morbid Saint are, but would you really dispute Transcendence Into the Peripheral or Spectrum of Death's status as classics of their respective scene? I never said you have to achieve mainstream popularity for it to become a classic. However it can be one criteria as to why something becomes a classic. As with Behemoth I think it absolutely is a matter of popularity. With Hellhammer not so much. There isn't one static definition of what makes a classic album. Quote: Also, you should relisten to both Immolation and Gorguts because the other poster is correct in that they, not Ulcerate, kicked off "dissonant death metal". Ulcerate certainly took that approach and put their own singular take on it, but to imply that they have nothing in common with Immolation is not accurate. Ok, my initial post shouldn't have said that it "shaped the sound of a new subgenre". Perhaps that was angled the wrong way. However, I stand by that I think they really were at the front and that their influence really kicked off a massive wave of atmospheric inclined dissonant death metal (relative to what a subgenre och a subgenre of extreme metal can be). But all this is up in the air. Perhaps we can begin to see which albums are classics from the 2010's but we're still a little bit to close in time. Regardless of if we agree on the topic of Ulcerate in relation to other bands that came before them would you agree that The Destroyers of All should be a candidate for a classic album?

Author:	Empyreal [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:43 am ]
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FLIPPITYFLOOP wrote: This kind of comes across as you crapping on the suggestions here and criticizing that people are just listing favourites, and then you follow up by naming albums you like, for reasons that very much boil down to catering to your personal tastes and are very much subjective. Yeah I mean that really is all I was doing. Lol. I feel like that's all these threads are since it's impossible to really nail down what a classic is. The Satanist or Vektor probably are about the closest answers we can get since they get named in such a widespread way a lot, and that's why I personally always find these threads to be a bit baffling really. In the end the thread does just ask what "we consider" so eh whatever, sorry for being an asshole about it - listing favorites and whatnot is a pastime of any forum at the end of the day...

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Author:	Gravetemplar [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:02 am ]
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Empyreal wrote: FLIPPITYFLOOP wrote: This kind of comes across as you crapping on the suggestions here and criticizing that people are just listing favourites, and then you follow up by naming albums you like, for reasons that very much boil down to catering to your personal tastes and are very much subjective. Yeah I mean that really is all I was doing. Lol. I feel like that's all these threads are since it's impossible to really nail down what a classic is. The Satanist or Vektor probably are about the closest answers we can get since they get named in such a widespread way a lot, and that's why I personally always find these threads to be a bit baffling really. In the end the thread does just ask what "we consider" so eh whatever, sorry for being an asshole about it - listing favorites and whatnot is a pastime of any forum at the end of the day... Yeah, these are my concerns as well. For me "classic" doesn't even imply it's a good album. Filosofem is a classic. It's pretty awful if you ask me but I would never say it's not a classic.

Author:	Empyreal [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:22 am ]
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I was being a dick with that first post, but also just that I do tend to like a lot of the old classics. So what if in 20 years those albums I don't like are classics and then I'd just be even more of a contrarian? I think about that sometimes.

Author:	Lee Harrison [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:53 am ]
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Voivod The Wake Mgla WHTN Behemoth The Satanist Sarkrista Summoners of the Serpent Wrath Evilfeast Wintermoon Enchantment Disma Towards the Megalith Cruciamentum Charnel Passages Helloween Helloween Overkill Scorched

Author:	lennonlikesmetal [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:38 am ]
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Zelkiiro wrote: I feel like everyone needs to at least check out Ironbound and The Electric Age as modern thrash classics. Overproduced, and vocals mixed too high.

Author:	Empyreal [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:49 am ]
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Those Overkill albums were fine for what they were but I have zero interest in going back and listening now really. Too clean-cut, and they just color inside the lines too much for me.

Author:	KaiKasparek [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:00 pm ]
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Ironbound is good, but not classic. There's a third of forgettable filler on there. The last 4 songs, I've apparently listened to over 10 times on iTunes but I couldn't tell you how a lick of any of them go. Ironbound was successful solely because of Bring Me The Night, and even that's just because it was a recycled Diamond Head riff that Metallica covered. It worked though.

Author:	Zelkiiro [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:18 pm ]
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lennonlikesmetal wrote: Zelkiiro wrote: I feel like everyone needs to at least check out Ironbound and The Electric Age as modern thrash classics. Overproduced, and vocals mixed too high. ...Is that supposed to mean anything?

Author:	Benedict Donald [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:22 pm ]
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For me, it's pretty clear that these are marvels of modern prog: Steven Wilson - "Raven That Refused to Sing" Anathema - "We're Here" Anathema - "Weather Systems" Anathema - "Distant Satellites"

Author:	Gradus the Bungler [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:47 pm ]
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Author:	Bronze Age [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:43 pm ]
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A lot of great stuff already mentioned that I agree with but I will try to mention new stuff. Helstar - Vampiro Fates Warning - Theories of Flight Dream Theater - A View From the Top of the World Megaton Sword - Blood Hails Steel - Steel Hails Fire Alcatrazz - Born Innocent Stryper - The Final Battle Angra - Omni Narnia - From Darkness to Light Sons of Apollo - MMXX Eclipse - Bleed & Scream Metal Church - Congregation of Annihilation

Author:	LilTito [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:19 pm ]
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All of these which i'm gonna mention qualify as modern classics to me, objectively, however: I like: DsO - Paracletus Batushka - Litourgiya Imperial triumphant - Vile luxury Skaphe - Skaphe2 Spectral lore - III Ad nauseam - Nihil quam vacuitas ordinatum est Oranssi pazuzu - Varahtelija Portal - Vexovoid Behemoth - The satanist I don't like: Mgla - Exercises in futility Gorguts - Colored sands Vektor - Terminal redux (ok i kinda like it tho) Power trip - Nightmare logic Deafheaven - Sunbather (im getting warmed up to it) BTBAM - Colors Blood incantation - THHOHR (i think it's alright but overrated) Svartidauđi - Flesh cathedral Albums that should be classics GODDAMNIT: Amestigon - Thier Gigan - Undulating waves of rainbiotic iridescence First fragment - Gloire eternelle Schattenvald - Der winterkonig Tetragrammacide - Typhonian wormholes... Serpent noir - Erotomysticism Ulcerate - Stare into death and be still 7.H Target - 0.00 Apocalypse Autokrator - s/t ..and a million more

Author:	robotniq [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:56 pm ]
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Ulcerate always reminded me of stuff like Deadguy and Rorschach (probably moderated by listening to Converge's "Jane Doe" a lot). I have never really got into Ulcerate, despite trying a few times. I'll probably give them another chance at some point - maybe I will like them, maybe not. Back on topic, StarGazer's "A Merging to the Boundless" would be my nomination..

Author:	FLIPPITYFLOOP [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:51 pm ]
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Empyreal wrote: FLIPPITYFLOOP wrote: This kind of comes across as you crapping on the suggestions here and criticizing that people are just listing favourites, and then you follow up by naming albums you like, for reasons that very much boil down to catering to your personal tastes and are very much subjective. Yeah I mean that really is all I was doing. Lol. I feel like that's all these threads are since it's impossible to really nail down what a classic is. The Satanist or Vektor probably are about the closest answers we can get since they get named in such a widespread way a lot, and that's why I personally always find these threads to be a bit baffling really. In the end the thread does just ask what "we consider" so eh whatever, sorry for being an asshole about it - listing favorites and whatnot is a pastime of any forum at the end of the day... It's all good man. None of us are immune to being a doink every now and then. We're cool!

Author:	Twisted_Psychology [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:35 pm ]
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It’s kind of funny how something has to be “original” to be considered classic as if people aren’t constantly tripping themselves to pull out some pre-Sabbath obscurity and try passing it off as the “true origin” of metal. Sometimes a classic really is just defined by whoever codified something or just happened to say it the loudest.

Author:	HeavenDuff [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:36 pm ]
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Personal picks that were not listed yet (I think, cause I might have missed some): Ad Nauseam - Imperative Imperceptible Impulse It might be a bold pick, but I stand by this one. This whole album feels like a masterclass on how to make dissonant death metal that feels fresh and unique even within a subscene that's packed with amazing bands and albums. A killer, claustrophobic trip inside the human psyche, with some of the most amazing riffs I've heard in the genre ever. Hammers of Misfortune - The Overtaker That's another one that might be a little soon to call a classic, but I feel that this one will keep a very good reputation and fanbase over the years. What could have been a relatively weak/safe album for HoM, an album that could have just sounded like another Vhol album, actually manages to see the sound of Hammers of Misfortune evolve while keeping it's core identity, mixed with elements of what makes Vhol interesting these days. Carcass - Surgical Steel Although people still like to show up and bitch about Carcass changing their sound back in 1997 and whining that they aren't pure grindcore and/or death metal, this album still has an impressive following and is often deemed to be one of the best comeback albums in metal. I agree with this. It's a solid album with a ton of bangers, and it truly propelled Carcass back into the game. When I saw them live earlier this year, people were having a blast listening to their 80's and 90's stuff, but also to their 2010's onward material. Blood Incantation - Hidden History of the Human Race Starspawn was mentionned earlier, but I think HHotHR is also absolutely amazing, was well-received, standouts, and sees the band further cementing their legacy, proving that Starspawn wasn't a fluke. Panopticon - Autumn Eternal Although I personnally love everything Panopticon did between 2012 and 2015 as well as their 2021 release, Autumn Eternal is the one that feels the most "classic" to me. It's tight, shows a lot of personnality, and is beloved by the fans of this kind of black metal. And here are my thoughts on some other people's picks: Ivan Drago wrote: Vektor - Terminal Redux Seconding this one. I feel it's the best Vektor album by a solid margin, and their entire discography is great! dike wrote: Mgla: With hearts towards none I most definitely agree with this one. A real gamerchanger in modern black metal. One of the most influential album of the last few decades as well. dike wrote: Ulcerate: The destroyers of all Agreed with the inclusion of Ulcerate, but I would pick Stare into Death and Be Still over all their other records. It's a solid album through and through, and it made more on an impact on the scene. For instance, there are twice as many ratings for SiTaBS on Rate Your Music over TDoA. Rosenthorn wrote: I think The White Goddess by Atlantean Kodex qualifies. Basically a flawless representation of their sound, and the sound of epic heavy doom. Yes! A thousand times yes for this one! Epic doom metal needed a banger like this one. Such an epic album! Defenestrated wrote: In atmospheric black, Paysage d'Hiver also seemed to make a sudden rise from obscurity. Im Wald will probably be remembered by many, though IMO it's probably not as close to "masterpiece" status as some of his earlier stuff. (I don't think I've given it as many proper listens as it needs, hence "probably.") Paysage d'hiver definitely fits somewhere in this thread, although I don't know what album/demo to pick. Still, it's one of the most revered black metal project out there, with a cult following. The whole project has a "classic" aura, IMHO. FLIPPITYFLOOP wrote: Blood Incantation - Starspawn (they went from "who the fuck is this?" to practically the whole death metal scene not being able to shut up about them - and for good reason) Agreed with the inclusion of Blood Incantation and their album Starspawn, but I think that Hidden History of the Human Race is just as classic. I would include both. FLIPPITYFLOOP wrote: Power Trip - Nightmare Logic (an already growing band became a huge sensation overnight) Holy shit yes! Monster of an album, and a massive boost for thrash revival and crossover thrash. FLIPPITYFLOOP wrote: Agalloch - Marrow Of The Spirit (while not part of the beginning trio of albums, still hailed as one of their best) I love Marrow of the Spirit, but classic era Agalloch for me is the 2000's. The Mantle and Ashes Against the Grain are classics for sure. MotS, I'm not certain. I'm not saying I strongly disagree with you here though. Just not sure. FLIPPITYFLOOP wrote: Pallbearer - Foundations Of Burden (see Power Trip and Deafheaven - personally not a Pallbearer fan, but they exploded in popularity with this record) Definitely! A gamechanger for this kind of modern doom metal.

Author:	Benedict Donald [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:39 pm ]
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KaiKasparek wrote: Ironbound is good, but not classic. There's a third of forgettable filler on there. This basically describes every Overkill album released after "Horrorscope". (I need to listen to their latest a bit more...I seem to recall enjoying most of it.)

Author:	dike [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:42 pm ]
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Empyreal wrote: Yeah I mean that really is all I was doing. Lol. I feel like that's all these threads are since it's impossible to really nail down what a classic is. The Satanist or Vektor probably are about the closest answers we can get since they get named in such a widespread way a lot, and that's why I personally always find these threads to be a bit baffling really. In the end the thread does just ask what "we consider" so eh whatever, sorry for being an asshole about it - listing favorites and whatnot is a pastime of any forum at the end of the day... Perhaps we should think about the albums we believe might become classics but that we don't really like ourselves? That is a pretty good indication of when an albums reputations is so strong that we have a feeling it is regarded as something special even if we don't like it. You mention Vektor. I keep seeing that band name but never really listened to the band so I don't know the albums. But they get mentioned a lot (not just here) so there is probably something to it. The same goes for Bell Witchs Mirror Reaper. I've tried a few times but it's probably not for me. But I keep seeing this album mentioned so I'm guessing it is held in especially high esteem, perhaps a classic in due time.

Author:	zemat [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:53 pm ]
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The lack of Triptykon and Arch/Matheos in this threat disturbs me.

Author:	Benedict Donald [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:45 pm ]
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zemat wrote: The lack of Triptykon and Arch/Matheos in this threat disturbs me. Great calls, particularly Arch/Matheos. Those two albums are remarkable.

Author:	Benedict Donald [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:52 pm ]
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Bronze Age wrote: Angra - Omni Their magnum opus by a wide margin, IMO.

Author:	Bronze Age [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 5:02 pm ]
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Benedict Donald wrote: Bronze Age wrote: Angra - Omni Their magnum opus by a wide margin, IMO. It's my favorite after the 1st four, but the whole discography is strong. What are some of your picks? Why are you holding out on us?

Author:	Forever Underground [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 5:45 pm ]
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Without a doubt my answer on this topic has to be "Death" by Teitanblood.

Author:	HeavenDuff [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:01 pm ]
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Forever Underground wrote: Without a doubt my answer on this topic has to be "Death" by Teitanblood. Yes! Monstruous album! I still have a hard time conveying just how truly amazing this album is. It's savage, takes all the raw energy, intensity and roughness of the rawest forms of black metal, mixes that with the most massive, bone crushing, hard hitting and brutal death metal there is, yet somehow it's not just a primitive and brutal record. It manages to be sophisticated in a weird raw, brutal and primal way, without being just another war metal album among dozens of others. Good pick!

Author:	Disembodied [ Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:20 pm ]
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Thexhumed wrote: Can truly a band achieve "classic" status when everything in metal has already been said and done prior to the last 25 years? Cue predictable and overused comment but... No doubt the same thing was said in 50 BC, 1700 and 1970. Though, not that it isn't something I haven't thought myself from time to time.

Author:	Lee Harrison [ Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:06 am ]
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Thumbs up for Amestigon

Author:	Ivan Drago [ Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:58 am ]
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LilTito wrote: First fragment - Gloire eternelle I can definitely see this being regardes as a tech death classic in the future, an absolutely insane album

Author:	Gravetemplar [ Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:02 pm ]
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HeavenDuff wrote: Forever Underground wrote: Without a doubt my answer on this topic has to be "Death" by Teitanblood. Yes! Monstruous album! I still have a hard time conveying just how truly amazing this album is. It's savage, takes all the raw energy, intensity and roughness of the rawest forms of black metal, mixes that with the most massive, bone crushing, hard hitting and brutal death metal there is, yet somehow it's not just a primitive and brutal record. It manages to be sophisticated in a weird raw, brutal and primal way, without being just another war metal album among dozens of others. Good pick! I think Death is the best extreme metal album ever recorded but Seven Chalices had a bigger impact on the scene.

Author:	HeavenDuff [ Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:42 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What albums from 2010 onwards would you consider as classics of their genre?
Gravetemplar wrote: HeavenDuff wrote: Forever Underground wrote: Without a doubt my answer on this topic has to be "Death" by Teitanblood. Yes! Monstruous album! I still have a hard time conveying just how truly amazing this album is. It's savage, takes all the raw energy, intensity and roughness of the rawest forms of black metal, mixes that with the most massive, bone crushing, hard hitting and brutal death metal there is, yet somehow it's not just a primitive and brutal record. It manages to be sophisticated in a weird raw, brutal and primal way, without being just another war metal album among dozens of others. Good pick! I think Death is the best extreme metal album ever recorded but Seven Chalices had a bigger impact on the scene. Yeah, I get what you mean. It's hard to really define what makes a classic album, but to me it definitely has to include impact on the scene, how well the album aged (or how well we think it will age), the unicity of the album, the quality of the music, etc. So yeah, someone could definitely make a case for Seven Chalices over Death, but Death is just that good in my opinion, that it will most likely be considered a classic in years to come.

Author:	HappyBoiStinks [ Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:52 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What albums from 2010 onwards would you consider as classics of their genre?
If it hasn't already been said, then definitely Scar Sighted, by Leviathan. Amazing album, one of the best in his discography, and he has a pretty stacked discography.

Author:	lennonlikesmetal [ Tue Jul 18, 2023 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What albums from 2010 onwards would you consider as classics of their genre?
HeavenDuff wrote: Yeah, I get what you mean. It's hard to really define what makes a classic album, but to me it definitely has to include impact on the scene, how well the album aged (or how well we think it will age), the unicity of the album, the quality of the music, etc. So yeah, someone could definitely make a case for Seven Chalices over Death, but Death is just that good in my opinion, that it will most likely be considered a classic in years to come. I believe the same can be said about both Dead Congregation albums as well.

Author:	dike [ Wed Jul 19, 2023 3:03 am ]
Post subject:	Re: What albums from 2010 onwards would you consider as classics of their genre?
robotiq wrote: Back on topic, StarGazer's "A Merging to the Boundless" would be my nomination.. An amazing album and an amazing band but I think they are underrated as opposed to being in the "classics" department of extreme metal. I'd recommend anyone to check them out though.