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yungstirjoey666
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:33 pm 
 

So a while back I was searching up Kamelot'd discography online, and apparently the chorus of the song Forever derived its melody from Solvieg's song by Edvard Grieg, as stated by Roy Khan.

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melody to be found in 0:50 and 2:46



Which gets me wondering, are there any other metal songs that where a melody is directly taken from a classical piece that isn't an explicit cover of said piece?

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Opus
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:53 pm 
 

The whole song is Solveig's sang. It's only the lyrics that are changed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:56 pm 
 

Classical Music gets worked into songs all the time.

One of my favorite examples is Angra - Evil Warning that has Vivaldi's Four Seasons and Lasting Child has a Mendelssohn piano piece.

Savatage worked Grieg into Hall of the Mountain King.

The first Gamma Ray has a part of one of Beethoven's symphonies worked into one of their songs.

The first Armored Saint album opens with part of Mussorgsky's Pictures at Exhibition.

There are many more but I would need to go back and listen to the albums to remember the actual song/s.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:27 pm 
 

Mekong Delta does the whole Pictures at an Exhibition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzbrsx8C6bY
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:40 pm 
 

Symphony X used part of Mozart's Requiem in The Death of Balance. They do have little pieces inserted into their music here and there.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:36 pm 
 

Galneryus' Angel of Salvation is in part an arrangement of Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 35




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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:20 am 
 

Primordial - Gallows Hymn (Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata)
(edit: sorry, I only read the title and didn't listen to the example in the OP. Looks like my example doesn't fit into the thread)
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largadeer
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:24 am 
 

yungstirjoey666 wrote:
So a while back I was searching up Kamelot'd discography online, and apparently the chorus of the song Forever derived its melody from Solvieg's song by Edvard Grieg, as stated by Roy Khan.

Spoiler: show


melody to be found in 0:50 and 2:46



Which gets me wondering, are there any other metal songs that where a melody is directly taken from a classical piece that isn't an explicit cover of said piece?


Tyr also uses the main theme from Solveig's Song in the track "Valkyrjan" from Land.

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joppek
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:59 am 
 

i can't seem to remember what piece is used and what track it's in, but necrophagist did this on at least one occasion - as a brief part of a solo or something it was
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:11 am 
 

Cult of Fire have Vltava, a black metal version of Smetana's Moldau

Cult of Fire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTlapVqx0hs&ab_channel=CultOfFireofficial
Original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G4NKzmfC-Q&ab_channel=RichardBrittain
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:09 am 
 

joppek wrote:
i can't seem to remember what piece is used and what track it's in, but necrophagist did this on at least one occasion - as a brief part of a solo or something it was

Yep On Epitaph album

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:15 am 
 

"The Eye Collector" by Krypteria is basically half original song, half "Moonlight Sonata." Including the 2nd movement that people often forget exists.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:16 pm 
 

Children of Bodom did this a lot on their earlier albums.

Red Light in My Eyes, Pt 1 (Two Part Invention in A Minor - Bach)
Red Light in My Eyes, Pt 2 (Symphony No. 25 - Mozart)
Red Light in My Eyes, Pt 2 (Confutatis from Requiem Mass - Mozart)
Hatebreeder (Magic Flute (Queen of the Night Aria) - Mozart)
Black Widow (Piano Concerto No. 20 - Mozart)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:25 pm 
 

A lot of the guitar solos on the first 3 Children of Bodom albums have parts of classical songs in them. For example, the solo of the song Children of Bodom.

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Slater922
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:26 pm 
 

Surprised no one's brought up the neoclassical metal groups like Cacophony and especially Yngwie Malmsteen. Those guys bring in a lot of classical influences in their riffing.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:40 pm 
 

when Botch was more hardcore than what they'd become, they did a cool version of "O fortuna"

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:56 pm 
 

Is this the stuff that you are looking for?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:08 pm 
 

A handful of Accept songs (esp instrumentals) are of classical music, I think Wolf has done at least one solo album that is based on classical music.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:40 pm 
 

Marduk's Glorification of the Black God is based on the Night on a Bald Mountain by Mussorgsky

Cirith Ungoal-Toccata. Based on JS Bach's Toccata and Fugue

Savatage-Mozart and Madness and In Memory.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:15 pm 
 

Someone above mentioned Mekong Delta's Pictures at an Exhibition, but that's only a small representation of how many of the band's songs are covers, reinterpretations or influences from classical music, here's a short list of some of my favourites:

Toccata
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Night on a Bare Mountain
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Landscape 4 - Pleasant Ground
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:40 am 
 

Golden Resurrection - One Voice for the Kingdom the song Spirit War has Mozart's Rondo Alla Turca in the guitar solo.

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Benedict Donald
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:34 pm 
 

Samael’s “Baphomet’s Throne”. Its contains elements based on a piece my Modesto Mussorgsky.

A killer song from a perfect album.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:16 am 
 

Eclipse - Wired; the song Twilight has Beethoven's Ode to Joy from the 9th Symphony. Kicks in at about 3:15 and is well done.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:16 am 
 

Megadeth's Last Rites is an interpretation of a Bach classic.

I'm not sure if it's really classical in the true sense, but Metallica's Frayed Ends of Sanity opens with an interpretation of The March of the Winkies from the Judy Garland classic Wizard of Oz.
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Lord_Lexy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:45 am 
 

Hollenthon have used Mussorgsky’s “The Hutt on Fowls’ legs” as the intro for “On the Wings of a Dove” and continued the theme in the riffs. Great stuff. It took me 15 years to discover the intro was a classical piece and not written by the band.



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Lord_Lexy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:11 am 
 

Another great example of classical music matching the feelof a specific subgenre is Dvořák's 4th movement in his New World Symphony, which Rhapsody have used on their Rain of a Thousand Flames ep.

(start at 39:37)


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