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I like heavy metal \m/

It seems to me that all 'kinds' of metal was a reaction to a different kind of metal from some different part of the world....everyone that made it was influenced by a different shade of metal.....a different kind of metal......from a different part of the world.

You don't know what you like until you hear it \m/

It's ALL fawking subjective and there is no right or wrong! Just metal.

However: we can all agree numetal is shite :lol:

Also, if someone can recommend some metallic hardcore, crossover thrash and some more post hardcore influences in metal im all ears. Always been curious to explore this stuff. Also some good metalcore

This is such a meaningless unnuanced discussion. What do we even mean by "punk influence" - cite examples, name bands (there's literally thousands to draw from) to illustrate your point. Then again, OP's post was shoddy as fuck to begin with as he just listed genres.

Author:	Spiderlix [ Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:50 pm ]
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Which is/are your favorite mix of punk + metal?I Will try to mention all of them. Speed Metal Thrash Metal Death Metal (Wikipedia says it,but i don't feel so much punk at this genre) Crust Punk Grindcore Crossover Thrash Metalcore Deathcore Black metal (Some Black metal bands got punk influences,like Bathory debut and Venom.The second wave took the underground style from hardcore and lo-fi at sometimes ressembling most underground hardcore bands) Groove Metal (I think it's groovy thrash mid-tempo hardcore) Grunge Sludge metal I don't know if Nu Metal counts too.

Author:	yungstirjoey666 [ Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:30 pm ]
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I notice that you've been posting multiple separate threads about genres pretty frequently. You might want to take a break before each thread so that others have their chance to continue their discussions. Back to the question, I'm not gonna deny the punk influence on metal, but based on the options you provided, you have a pretty broad sense of said fusion. Some subgenres draw bigger influences from punk than others, and based on the list alone, you may as well include NWOBHM if you consider that a genre. Also, certain bands of said genre are more or less influenced by punk, and this is especially true if you look at each individual scene. For example, I may be wrong, but from what I've read, American death metal has less punk influence than Swedish death metal. Another example is X Japan, a band often associated with power and prog metal, but has notable punk influences that are arguably more than something like Cannibal Corpse.

Author:	Metal_On_The_Ascendant [ Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:22 am ]
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Outside of some very specific thrash and sludge bands that have cited everything from Sex Pistols to Black Flag to Die Kruezen (Neurosis liked them) as influences, I think it would be splitting hairs to claim ALL those styles of metal you listed are informed by punk. If you wanna split the atom some more, you might wanna explore what punk is made of and where rock and roll originated and hey, what's your favorite blues + rock and roll + punk + metal mix? These subgenres of METAL are greater than the sum of their parts as has been established for years now. Death metal which came out of Thrash is not synonymous with Thrash anymore and the distinctions are clear, for example. Crust punk is the most actively informed by (hardcore) punk rock from everything listed but drawing parallels between every other metal subgenre is ridiculous tbh.

Author:	DecemberSoul [ Wed Sep 13, 2023 4:05 am ]
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For the most part, I don't like overt punk influences in metal. Two exceptions come to mind, though: The slightly punkish vibe in the riffing style of Fafner's "Trolskust" and Azhubham Haani's "On a snowy winter night" demos.

Author:	Kalimata [ Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:13 pm ]
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I'm surprised some answer seriously to this thread that doesn't make any sense.

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Author:	Bahana [ Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:58 pm ]
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Hetfield basically admitted to wanting to add musicianship to punk. Some call Motorhead punk.

Author:	Lee Harrison [ Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:14 pm ]
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All Finnish Black Metal it’s influenced by punk,Venom,Motörhead,Bathory first three album,Sarcofago,Goat of Doom,Sielunvihollinen,Darkthrone mid era,some Canada thrash bands,Nuflear Assault,Atruta etc.. Crossover band like Agnostic Front,D.R.I,Suicidal Tendencies,Corrosion of Confotmity,S.O.D.. First grind core albums.. All Swedish and some Finland death metal … But maybe for not wrong listen Discharge and Killing Joke…

Author:	deadtome [ Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:29 pm ]
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I like heavy metal \m/ It seems to me that all 'kinds' of metal was a reaction to a different kind of metal from some different part of the world....everyone that made it was influenced by a different shade of metal.....a different kind of metal......from a different part of the world. You don't know what you like until you hear it \m/ It's ALL fawking subjective and there is no right or wrong! Just metal. However: we can all agree numetal is shite

Author:	SanPeron [ Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:40 pm ]
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It could be something interesting to see which metal genres aren't influenced by punk, there are only a few of them. Progressive metal Power metal I really can't think of any other.

Author:	Lee Harrison [ Thu Sep 14, 2023 3:59 am ]
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deadtome wrote: I like heavy metal \m/ It seems to me that all 'kinds' of metal was a reaction to a different kind of metal from some different part of the world....everyone that made it was influenced by a different shade of metal.....a different kind of metal......from a different part of the world. You don't know what you like until you hear it \m/ It's ALL fawking subjective and there is no right or wrong! Just metal. However: we can all agree numetal is shite I don’t agree new metal have great albums like Chaos A.D.,Vulgar display of power,the first Korn,White Pony and the mighty Burn my Eyes… Like all music there is new metal bad and good….

Author:	Lagartija [ Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:50 am ]
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Everything except metalcore, deathcore, grunge or sludge really, although I can handle a bit of sludge here and there. I've always had a very soft spot for female-fronted crust/thrash a la Sacrilege, Death Evocation, Lifeless Dark, Misantropic etc, and then things like Wolfbrigade and Hellshock, which are crust but have a definite Swedish death metal influence. Oh, and the OP wondered about the punk influence in death metal: just listen to the first two Entombed albums.

Author:	Durag [ Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:49 am ]
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Some of the punk metal combos still confuse me. I get the original metalcore, like Converge and really like it, but the popular metalcore over the last 20 years sounds nothing like it to me. Melodic twin guitars, pop choruses, shouted verses, I barely hear any punk in there at all. Sounds like pop mixed with melo death at times. Crossover thrash is pretty good from what I've heard but I dont know enough enough it, and I couldnt tell what metallic hardcore is. The post hardcore stuff in atmospheric sludge metal / post metal I really do like, and its probably my favourite aspect to punk influence in metal.

Author:	Durag [ Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:01 am ]
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Also, if someone can recommend some metallic hardcore, crossover thrash and some more post hardcore influences in metal im all ears. Always been curious to explore this stuff. Also some good metalcore

Author:	Metal_On_The_Ascendant [ Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:22 am ]
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This is such a meaningless unnuanced discussion. What do we even mean by "punk influence" - cite examples, name bands (there's literally thousands to draw from) to illustrate your point. Then again, OP's post was shoddy as fuck to begin with as he just listed genres. Not all death metal owes a significant debt to punk. I'll check out again those first two Entombed albums someone mentioned cause they're such fun...but I don't listen to Left Hand Path ever and think of the punk influence oozing out of it.

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Author:	DecemberSoul [ Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:32 am ]
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Durag wrote: Also, if someone can recommend some metallic hardcore, crossover thrash and some more post hardcore influences in metal im all ears. Always been curious to explore this stuff. Also some good metalcore My sole recommendation: Ascension - Abomination. Really good album with a seriously pissed off vocalist.

Author:	yungstirjoey666 [ Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:07 pm ]
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+1 for Entombed. This track especially is cool and pretty punky.

Author:	Kalimata [ Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:59 pm ]
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Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote: This is such a meaningless unnuanced discussion. What do we even mean by "punk influence" - cite examples, name bands (there's literally thousands to draw from) to illustrate your point. Then again, OP's post was shoddy as fuck to begin with as he just listed genres. Exactly this.

Author:	Lagartija [ Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:11 pm ]
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Durag wrote: Also, if someone can recommend some metallic hardcore, crossover thrash and some more post hardcore influences in metal im all ears. Always been curious to explore this stuff. Also some good metalcore Crossover rules. If you don't know them check out Municipal Waste 'Hazardous mutation', DRI 'Crossover', Attitude Adjustment, The Exploited 'The massacre' and I would say early Suicidal Tendencies, but I always wondered why they are considered crossover. Ok, they 'crossed over' from punk to melodic thrash and then to funk, but the only album I'd say could be considered crossover in style would be 'Join the army'...