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I would just like to say that the first track has a terribly addicting riff. So awesome.

I know this thread was sort of dead but I wanted to bump it up one last time because I thought a few aspects of the album that werent brought up are pretty interesting.

For instance, on the second track, Death of All Oaths, does anyone else think that when it gets to the slow part that it actually sounds alot like Soulside Journey or Goatloard? I thought that was pretty cool considering how far from that style they are most of the time but then you're hit with it and it fits the song well and reminded me of the old material as well.

Also, on Hanging Out In Haiger I cant help but notice just how much Nocturnal Culto actually sounds like King Diamond on the high singing parts. Does anybody else think it sounds close? I thought the simularity was pretty amazing.

I don't hear too much crust but there is definitly a punk influence. I know Fenriz loves crust and old thrash(he praised Bludwulf and Midnight in an interview in Metal Maniacs). There is a lot of old heavy metal in their sound as well.

Just curious does anyone think Hiking Metal Punks sounds reminiscent of G.I.S.M.?

Darkthrone can do no wrong.

Has anyone heard Aura Noir's new album Hades Rise, it sounds to me like everything Dark Thrones... might have been.

It's a fucking cool album, full off really lo-fi but blazing thrash riffs. I listened to tracks off each album and thought they were brothers!

Aura Noir finally grew up, but still, they'd never be able to steal DT's thunder.

Darkthrone did "Canadian Metal" on "F.O.A.D." and on the new Aura Noir there's "SOuth American Metal Attack!"

Melmoth_the_Wanderer wrote:

Hades Rise didn't grab me at first, I think I was expecting more of a full on thrash vibe but I've found it to be a real grower, slightly more progressive than Merciless and because of this, I think it makes the intense parts more intense.

I've not had a proper chance to listen to the new Darkthrone in full more than a couple of times, doesn't seem much different to FOAD though, in the way FOAD was different to The Cult... definitely has some quality riffs, still need to listen to it couple more times to decide wether the less attention grabbing parts are total filler or not.

Per_Ignem_Ad_Lucem wrote:

Melmoth_the_Wanderer wrote:

It doesn't make me cringe like "F.O.A.D." and "The Cult is Alive" occasionally do, so in my view its' a better album than both of them .. some great, very metallic riffs, too. Rick James is right on about the stuff hearkening back to Autopsy, although I would say that those riffs really call to mind stuff that's older and rooted in the 70s. Then again, this was Autopsy's thing, too. I still think the most rockin' thing Darkthrone has ever done is "...And Nor the Silent Whispers".

Oh and that was cool to point out the Autopsy influence, totally makes sense but I never thought of it for some reason. Autopsy rules.

MazeofTorment wrote:

Oh and that was cool to point out the Autopsy influence, totally makes sense but I never thought of it for some reason. Autopsy rules.

'Twas me, bitch.
And yeah, I don't know why anyone didn't catch it. Soulside is obvious; I haven't even heard Goatlord in its entirety and still I know well that there is a large amount of Autopsy worship in there. Think of it; black metal has lost most of its death metal influences because the time of "The Unholy Trio" (black/thrash/death) was very short, plus noobs and idiot veterans alike concentrate on the second wave. Which is why Darkthrone made this album. Back to the basics...anti-blast beat, get the loose Motorhead d-beat, fuck off punk spirit, let love of NWOBHM excel, and put a little doom in there.
That is black metal.

i love every darkthrone album and have been a fan since the early nineties , yes i love sardonic wrath , yes i love the cult is alive,, i love the forbygende krieg 7" this album fucking sucks ,, i am so so disappointed wow what the fuck happened ,,

And Im wondering, how in the world can anyone even consider this good music, much less good BM?

It ISN'T black metal.

Author:	Life_Sucks [ Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:13 am ]
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I like it. It is less punkish than the last two, and has some thrashy songs on it as well. I think it is their best since Ravishing Grimness (I'd even say I like the last three better than Plaguewielder, which I consider one of their weakest albums). I think it is very good, but not as good as their material through Panzerfaust.

Author:	MazeofTorment [ Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:58 am ]
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I would just like to say that the first track has a terribly addicting riff. So awesome.

Author:	AurvandiL [ Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:58 am ]
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MazeofTorment wrote: I would just like to say that the first track has a terribly addicting riff. So awesome. Fuck, yes.

Author:	MazeofTorment [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:22 pm ]
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I know this thread was sort of dead but I wanted to bump it up one last time because I thought a few aspects of the album that werent brought up are pretty interesting. For instance, on the second track, Death of All Oaths, does anyone else think that when it gets to the slow part that it actually sounds alot like Soulside Journey or Goatloard? I thought that was pretty cool considering how far from that style they are most of the time but then you're hit with it and it fits the song well and reminded me of the old material as well. Also, on Hanging Out In Haiger I cant help but notice just how much Nocturnal Culto actually sounds like King Diamond on the high singing parts. Does anybody else think it sounds close? I thought the simularity was pretty amazing.

Author:	Abominatrix [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:24 pm ]
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MazeofTorment wrote: I know this thread was sort of dead but I wanted to bump it up one last time because I thought a few aspects of the album that werent brought up are pretty interesting. For instance, on the second track, Death of All Oaths, does anyone else think that when it gets to the slow part that it actually sounds alot like Soulside Journey or Goatloard? I thought that was pretty cool considering how far from that style they are most of the time but then you're hit with it and it fits the song well and reminded me of the old material as well. Also, on Hanging Out In Haiger I cant help but notice just how much Nocturnal Culto actually sounds like King Diamond on the high singing parts. Does anybody else think it sounds close? I thought the simularity was pretty amazing. Hm, I thought that was Fenriz singing there? I still haven't given the album too many listens. THey definitely have plenty of allusions to their death metal days, not the least of which is the increased propensity for doom parts. There was actually qutie a bit of rock on "SOulside" and "Goatlord" too, which people often seem to forget.

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Author:	AurvandiL [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:25 pm ]
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1- Yes indeed, many parts are reminiscent of the more atmospheric of early Darkthrone 2- It's Fenriz Singing. 3- (I HATE King Diamond).

Author:	MazeofTorment [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:33 pm ]
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Ah, I see. I didnt catch that it was Fenriz. Well none the less, I thought it was pretty interesting and awesome that he was able to sound so much like him. Sorry you're not a fan of KD. Hanging Out In Haiger also has to be one of the funnest fucking songs I've ever heard. Everytime I listen to it I feel like drinking some beers.

Author:	RickJames [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:46 pm ]
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I don't get why people don't know that Fenriz is singing on those tracks, this started on The Cult is Alive's "Graveyard Slut" , and I'm even thinking he was doing vocals on Sardonic Wrath's "Hate is the Law" (OBSERVE! ORIENT! DECIDE! - um, duh?). Plus many should know well he did tracks on FOAD as well. Crust? People just don't get that they are taking back to the NWOBHM that caused bm to exist, even more punk, and doomy stylings reminiscent to....read below. I'm pretty sure they like crust and hardcore, but crust, this is not. The album is perfect, in so many ways. I for one love King Diamond. They are always making allusions to their old days, listen to Launchpad to Nothingness. It's in all the albums I've heard. That doomy shit is a hailing to Autopsy, man. That's what Soulside Journey was, no doubt about it. People are too busy jerking off to French shit to realize where the riffs are coming from. EDIT: Mistake.

Author:	AurvandiL [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:53 pm ]
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(Hate is the Law features on Sardonic Wrath)

Author:	Wage_Slave [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:35 pm ]
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Overall I thought the cd was tolerable. I thought that a few parts of the album actually sounded a bit like some Isengard stuff (which is great imo.)

Author:	PvtNinjer [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:06 pm ]
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I don't know about everyone else, but does this album have a certain... anthemic quality to it, or what? I find there's so many great chorus' that just demand you headband and scream along!

Author:	woeoftyrants [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:01 pm ]
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I just checked out this album today and love it so far. The vocals are definitely something that will take some getting used to, but the riffs are great, and I love how the band have integrated more old-school metal and punk into the sound while bringing back some of the old sounds.

Author:	HeavyMetalSteve [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:18 pm ]
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I've had the cd for a week and it hasn't left my cd player. I love it! The Winds They Called Dungeon Shaker and Norway in September have some awesome, thrashy, addictive riffs. All the songs are great. I think Fenriz's vocals work well, they are a nice break from Nocturno Culto's croak(which I love). The drums have a nice rockin anthemic feel too. I don't hear too much crust but there is definitly a punk influence. I know Fenriz loves crust and old thrash(he praised Bludwulf and Midnight in an interview in Metal Maniacs). There is a lot of old heavy metal in their sound as well. Just curious does anyone think Hiking Metal Punks sounds reminiscent of G.I.S.M.?

Author:	Dail [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:31 pm ]
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Norway In September is one of the best Metal tracks of 2008.

Author:	MazeofTorment [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:07 pm ]
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I knew it was you rick james who said it first. And yes, the influence is quite obvious on Soulside Journey. That album is criminally underrated in a way. Although Autopsy influenced, that album to me still seems incredibly original overall, theres not many other DM bands that you can say sound quite like what DT did on Soulside. Very weird, evil atmosphere that album has.

Author:	zmscrossover [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:56 pm ]
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I posted in an earlier thread, said I would pick it up, and I did, and I cannot stop playing it. Every song is fucking class, and it has a pretty sweet atmosphere throughout. Spot on gentlemen, keep up the good work.

Author:	marktheviktor [ Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:57 am ]
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I'm listening to it right now and it has definitly grown on me. It still won't top F.O.A.D but it is a very,very worthy follow-up to said album. Grizzly Trade is certainly a highlight song on here. Here's hoping their next album will follow suit. One of the few bands that make me crave more of the same from them. That's their motif anyhow and it's an awesome one for them.

Author:	Dail [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:32 pm ]
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HeavyMetalSteve wrote: I don't hear too much crust but there is definitly a punk influence. I know Fenriz loves crust and old thrash(he praised Bludwulf and Midnight in an interview in Metal Maniacs). There is a lot of old heavy metal in their sound as well. Just curious does anyone think Hiking Metal Punks sounds reminiscent of G.I.S.M.? agreed, there's not a heavy crust influence on the new album at all.

Author:	Nolan_B [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:19 am ]
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Darkthrone can do no wrong.

Author:	Expedience [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:13 am ]
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Nolan_B wrote: Darkthrone can do no wrong. Not that their exceedingly obeisant fans would notice if they did.

Author:	AurvandiL [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:18 am ]
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Hehe, let's say they didn't do much wrong. Only my isolated opinion though... I can understand that their 'transition' albums (from 'Ravishing Grimness' to 'Hate Them') are bland and very repetitive... but a shit Darkthrone album still is good.

Author:	Melmoth_the_Wanderer [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:36 am ]
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Has anyone heard Aura Noir's new album Hades Rise, it sounds to me like everything Dark Thrones... might have been. It's a fucking cool album, full off really lo-fi but blazing thrash riffs. I listened to tracks off each album and thought they were brothers! Aura Noir finally grew up, but still, they'd never be able to steal DT's thunder.

Author:	Abominatrix [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:48 am ]
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Melmoth_the_Wanderer wrote: Has anyone heard Aura Noir's new album Hades Rise, it sounds to me like everything Dark Thrones... might have been. It's a fucking cool album, full off really lo-fi but blazing thrash riffs. I listened to tracks off each album and thought they were brothers! Aura Noir finally grew up, but still, they'd never be able to steal DT's thunder. I'm a bit disappointed with that one, myself. Maybe it was just too hyped-up in my mind, but I don't find the production to be as old-school-sounding as the music seems to require and sometimes it seems like they don't take the riffs far enough. That opening track takes an even simpler paraphrase of the "Nuclear War" riff and runs it into the ground ... I know for a fact that they understand that what made the Voivod song cool is that even back in 1984 the band was throwingg in all kinds of weirdd elements to make their music wild and unpredictable. Well, I still have to listen to "Hades Ride" some more. One thing that's certainly cool .. Darkthrone did "Canadian Metal" on "F.O.A.D." and on the new Aura Noir there's "SOuth American Metal Attack!"

Author:	Dail [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:48 am ]
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Melmoth_the_Wanderer wrote: Has anyone heard Aura Noir's new album Hades Rise, it sounds to me like everything Dark Thrones... might have been. It's a fucking cool album, full off really lo-fi but blazing thrash riffs. I listened to tracks off each album and thought they were brothers! Aura Noir finally grew up, but still, they'd never be able to steal DT's thunder. Hades Rise is fantastic man. Been getting a shit load of play from me.

Author:	HumanWaste5150 [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:22 pm ]
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Abominatrix wrote: Darkthrone did "Canadian Metal" on "F.O.A.D." and on the new Aura Noir there's "SOuth American Metal Attack!" All we need know is a song about cult Japaneses bands

Author:	Per_Ignem_Ad_Lucem [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:38 pm ]
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Melmoth_the_Wanderer wrote: Has anyone heard Aura Noir's new album Hades Rise, it sounds to me like everything Dark Thrones... might have been. It's a fucking cool album, full off really lo-fi but blazing thrash riffs. I listened to tracks off each album and thought they were brothers! Aura Noir finally grew up, but still, they'd never be able to steal DT's thunder. Hades Rise didn't grab me at first, I think I was expecting more of a full on thrash vibe but I've found it to be a real grower, slightly more progressive than Merciless and because of this, I think it makes the intense parts more intense. I've not had a proper chance to listen to the new Darkthrone in full more than a couple of times, doesn't seem much different to FOAD though, in the way FOAD was different to The Cult... Definately has some quality riffs, still need to listen to it couple more times to decide wether the less attention grabbing parts are total filler or not.

Author:	Winterkald [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:58 pm ]
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Dark Thrones and Black Flags is a major improvement, considering F.O.A.D., which I found rather dissapointing. DTaBF has much better riffs, and the production is also better in a way. More necro perhaps!

Author:	Abominatrix [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:03 pm ]
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Per_Ignem_Ad_Lucem wrote: Melmoth_the_Wanderer wrote: Has anyone heard Aura Noir's new album Hades Rise, it sounds to me like everything Dark Thrones... might have been. It's a fucking cool album, full off really lo-fi but blazing thrash riffs. I listened to tracks off each album and thought they were brothers! Aura Noir finally grew up, but still, they'd never be able to steal DT's thunder. Hades Rise didn't grab me at first, I think I was expecting more of a full on thrash vibe but I've found it to be a real grower, slightly more progressive than Merciless and because of this, I think it makes the intense parts more intense. I've not had a proper chance to listen to the new Darkthrone in full more than a couple of times, doesn't seem much different to FOAD though, in the way FOAD was different to The Cult... definitely has some quality riffs, still need to listen to it couple more times to decide wether the less attention grabbing parts are total filler or not. It doesn't make me cringe like "F.O.A.D." and "The Cult is Alive" occasionally do, so in my view its' a better album than both of them .. some great, very metallic riffs, too. Rick James is right on about the stuff hearkening back to Autopsy, although I would say that those riffs really call to mind stuff that's older and rooted in the 70s. Then again, this was Autopsy's thing, too. I still think the most rockin' thing Darkthrone has ever done is "...And Nor the Silent Whispers".

Author:	MazeofTorment [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:03 pm ]
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I would deff agree that this album is better than The Cult is Alive and FOAD. Although there are differences between the albums it seems like they've progressed towards what makes Dark Thrones and Black Flags so great on those previous two albums and didnt quite nail it but I think they got it totally right this time. This album flows great and has been playing in my car non stop. Oh and that was cool to point out the Autopsy influence, totally makes sense but I never thought of it for some reason. Autopsy rules.

Author:	RickJames [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:54 pm ]
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MazeofTorment wrote: Oh and that was cool to point out the Autopsy influence, totally makes sense but I never thought of it for some reason. Autopsy rules. 'Twas me, bitch. And yeah, I don't know why anyone didn't catch it. Soulside is obvious; I haven't even heard Goatlord in its entirety and still I know well that there is a large amount of Autopsy worship in there. Think of it; black metal has lost most of its death metal influences because the time of "The Unholy Trio" (black/thrash/death) was very short, plus noobs and idiot veterans alike concentrate on the second wave. Which is why Darkthrone made this album. Back to the basics...anti-blast beat, get the loose Motorhead d-beat, fuck off punk spirit, let love of NWOBHM excel, and put a little doom in there. That is black metal.

Author:	Abominatrix [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:15 pm ]
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RickJames wrote: MazeofTorment wrote: Oh and that was cool to point out the Autopsy influence, totally makes sense but I never thought of it for some reason. Autopsy rules. 'Twas me, bitch. And yeah, I don't know why anyone didn't catch it. Soulside is obvious; I haven't even heard Goatlord in its entirety and still I know well that there is a large amount of Autopsy worship in there. Think of it; black metal has lost most of its death metal influences because the time of "The Unholy Trio" (black/thrash/death) was very short, plus noobs and idiot veterans alike concentrate on the second wave. Which is why Darkthrone made this album. Back to the basics...anti-blast beat, get the loose Motorhead d-beat, fuck off punk spirit, let love of NWOBHM excel, and put a little doom in there. That is black metal. I think "Soulside Journey" is cool and all, but I wish it sounded half as primal and real and fiery as "GOatlord" does. Love that record: loopy, after-the-fact vocals and all.

Author:	PhantomMullet [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:15 am ]
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Newer darkthrone took some time to digest, but at this point I think they're pretty awesome. This new album from what I heard is pretty good. The wind they called dungeon shaker is probably my favorite song from the album so far.

Author:	PlagueRages [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:20 pm ]
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Just bought it today on a bit of an impulse buy, on my third listen and I'm really enjoying it thus far. Love the NWOBHM vibe with the more melodic riffs and leads, the doomy elements are also pretty cool. Hiking Metal Punks!

Author:	Nochielo [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:03 pm ]
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I bought it two days ago, and I think it was good. I had never listened to Darkthrone before, but I bought the album anyway and I'm glad I did. It's not the best black metal I've heard (hell, I don't even want to call it black metal, there's a shitload of diffenrent influences here) but worth a buy.

Author:	hellhippie [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:54 pm ]
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i love every darkthrone album and have been a fan since the early nineties , yes i love sardonic wrath , yes i love the cult is alive,, i love the forbygende krieg 7" this album fucking sucks ,, i am so so disappointed wow what the fuck happened ,,

Author:	Abominatrix [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:09 pm ]
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hellhippie wrote: i love every darkthrone album and have been a fan since the early nineties , yes i love sardonic wrath , yes i love the cult is alive,, i love the forbygende krieg 7" this album fucking sucks ,, i am so so disappointed wow what the fuck happened ,, You really think it's so much worse than "F.O.A.D."? That seems rather strange to me.

Author:	Khroshan [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:32 pm ]
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I decided to check out this new album coming from a background of listening to ABITNS and Transilvanian Hunger, went for the song Hiking Metal Punks since there seems to be a lot of praise for it. And Im wondering, how in the world can anyone even consider this good music, much less good BM? Its absolute crap. Its a shame that Darkthrone has turned into what it is today.