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Why are Darkthrone trying to be a Crust band now(or past few albums rather)?

My opinion is that it sucks. I'm probably the minority, but I like it that way.

Also, the opening riff of the first song, 'The Winds They Called The Dungeon Shaker', is one of the best (and blackest) riffs heard in a good while.

I knew you'd be the one to make a topic about this. I've listened to a couple of songs on youtube. I like what I've heard.

Downloaded it last night, plan on buying it on vinyl.

Why are Darkthrone trying to be a Crust band now(or past few albums rather)?

For those who have this and have checked it out, can you please answer me a few questions...

First off, is Culto's voice way out in front of the mix on this one? I have a problem with this, and with many Darkthrone albums, this factor throws me off.

Second, are the riffs any good? I've tried to give current Darkthrone a whirl and had FOAD, SARDONIC WRATH, THE CULT IS ALIVE, HATE THEM etc. I'm all for the punk influenced stuff, but those albums never grabbed me. I'd rather something like KRYPT these days instead which has a bit of that Darkthrone/Celtic Frost vibe.

Thanks.

deathcorpse wrote:

I wouldn't say its obscenely high in the mix, but its prominent, yes.

deathcorpse wrote:

I think this basically sounds like a much more engaging version of FOAD with better riffs. I don't know if the riffs are more interesting because Fenriz took a hand in some of the crafting, or what, but I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

I believe Fenriz wrote 4 or 5 out of the 9 songs on 'FOAD,' if I'm not mistaken. Does the new album sound more in the vein of 'These Shores are Damned?' That song is EPIC.

Chaosmonger wrote:

I believe Fenriz wrote 4 or 5 out of the 9 songs on 'FOAD,' if I'm not mistaken. Does the new album sound more in the vein of 'These Shores are Damned?' That song is EPIC.

Hmm, I don't know what the cause is then, I guess they just buckled down and stepped their shit up.

These Shores are Damned is a pretty great song, possibly my favorite from FOAD. I don't know if I'd be comfortable with saying the entire album is on par with that song. I think there are some comparable tracks like "Oath Minus" and maybe "Norway in September". Honestly its a pretty short album, you guys could download this very quickly and decide for yourselves whether its worth your money.

iAm wrote:

Why are Darkthrone trying to be a Crust band now(or past few albums rather)?

Apparently, Fenriz is a huge fan of the genre. I for one am glad they chose to stick with the crust-y sound.

Author:	AurvandiL [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Dark Thrones and Black Flags
DarkThrone's latest output was released today. I got the Peaceville so called 'super jewel box', something ugly as shit, with some supposedly 'limited', special, and super bonus 'Fucking Around part I & II' video clips. Anyone here got it? It is a continuation of what F.O.A.D. had hinted, although is bears some differences. The riffs are blacker than they were on the previous album, the vocals are drifting between punk and heavy metal raw throating, and the atmospheres of old are numerous, not unreminiscent of A Blaze... or Isengard's Vandreren. In my opinion, it is slightly better than Fuck Off And Die, in a subtly different awesomeness. It still allows fierce headbanging, while putting off great atmosphere. Also, the opening riff of the first song, 'The Winds They Called The Dungeon Shaker', is one of the best (and blackest) riffs heard in a good while. Any opinion as of yet? On a sidenote: the 'selling-out' and evolution of DarkThrone these years has already been discussed, please avoid all 'Dark Thrones and Black Flags' non-related topics.

Author:	MapleKit [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:11 pm ]
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My opinion is that it sucks. I'm probably the minority, but I like it that way.

Author:	DeadGein [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:17 pm ]
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i'm listening to some songs on youtube and i dig it so far.

Author:	boxoxob [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:28 pm ]
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I'm listening to it now (the fourth time today) and I absolutely love it. Though, my opinion is pretty biased, as I'm pretty much a Darkthrone fan-boy. On a side note, the first time I listened to "The Winds They Called The Dungeon Shaker", every time it came to the part "...they called!.." part, I though he was saying "white power" and I was thinking, "what the fuck?"

Author:	morfumax [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:48 pm ]
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this is awesome.

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Author:	mentalselfmutilation [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:49 pm ]
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It's not too bad, a mix of FOAD but it's more black metal influenced than the previous output.

Author:	DeadGein [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:52 pm ]
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I don't like the vocals that much though

Author:	PvtNinjer [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:02 pm ]
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I love the shit out of it already, past two days I have been blasting this at work and it hasn't even started to get old!

Author:	weakling_goat [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:20 pm ]
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I knew you'd be the one to make a topic about this. I've listened to a couple of songs on youtube. I like what I've heard.

Author:	jesusbathe [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:38 pm ]
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From what ive heard off the mini-site it sounds good. I loved the studio footage...thought that was cool. Ive been reluctant to dowload it though...ill probobly buy it as soon as its released here in Canada.

Author:	~Guest 132892 [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:48 am ]
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Why are Darkthrone trying to be a Crust band now(or past few albums rather)?

Author:	Nolan_B [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:52 am ]
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From what I've heard, it's better than FOAD, but not quite as good as The Cult is Alive.

Author:	Jonpo [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:06 am ]
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I'm thoroughly enjoying this. It has the "We're just playing music we love" vibe of FOAD, but the riffs sound better. May have to pick this up after work tomorrow. edit: Oh, its not quite out here yet. Damn.

Author:	TheUglySoldier [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:06 am ]
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iAm wrote: Why are Darkthrone trying to be a Crust band now(or past few albums rather)? They arn't. They're actually playing decent true-as-fuck metal, in my opinion. But I've always been of the opinion that a lot of black metal is one of the least "true" metal genres in terms of heaviness and sound. I havn't picked up the album, but I've heard some tracks and it's fucking rightous. I like all Darkthrone's material that I've heard, but to me this is some of their best work.

Author:	bradtheimpaler [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:24 pm ]
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Just gave it a listen. Not bad. Different. It's not really blowing my mind though. It'll probably relegated to the occasional section of my cd booklet.

Author:	wasteful [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:11 pm ]
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i've only given it two listens thus far, but i think i definitely prefer FOAD. then again, i was hoping they'd go further into "punk territory" with this release.

Author:	caspian [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:08 am ]
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MapleKit wrote: My opinion is that it sucks. I'm probably the minority, but I like it that way. ' ooh, you're quite the iconoclast, aren't you?

Author:	Jonpo [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:21 am ]
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Yeah I've actually been a bit mystified with all the talk of them being crust/black metal these days. I guess I could see how the artwork and the attitude behind the music leans that way, but it sounds more like heavy metal riffs filtered through a bit of norwegian BM, with punk drumming, to me. When I think of crust I instantly think of Amebix and/or Hellbastard...and the new Darkthrone just doesn't sound like that stuff to me. To clarify a bit, I absolutely think there are some punk attributes to this music, just not of the crust variety. I may need to listen to FOAD more though, to pick up on it. Is it fucked up that I want to buy FOAD now, just to go along with this new record? God damned similar artwork.

Author:	DeadGein [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:36 am ]
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its more like a mix of black metal and old school speed metal than black/crust IMO

Author:	Bezerko [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:06 am ]
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Downloaded it last night, plan on buying it on vinyl. Sounds great, like a combo of F.O.A.D and Sardonic Wrath which is exactly what I wanted. Oath Minus: OMG RIFFS <3

Author:	Expedience [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:03 am ]
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AurvandiL wrote: Also, the opening riff of the first song, 'The Winds They Called The Dungeon Shaker', is one of the best (and blackest) riffs heard in a good while. This is pretty much the only track I can really get into. IMO the rest of the album goes downhill and doesn't come back up until the final track "Witch Ghetto"

Author:	AurvandiL [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:38 am ]
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Ah? 'Witch Ghetto' rather fails for me... Two words choruses are not really my favourite. weakling_goat wrote: I knew you'd be the one to make a topic about this. I've listened to a couple of songs on youtube. I like what I've heard. My very own share of DarkThrone worship . 9:38 am and still running. Hiking Metal Punks... Forever!

Author:	motherload [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:02 am ]
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Bezerko wrote: Downloaded it last night, plan on buying it on vinyl.

Author:	Mungo [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:47 am ]
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Yeah it's pretty cool, I'm not the biggest fan of Darkthrone but I like what they've been doing lately. I was expecting more punk influence (judging from the 'Black Flags' aspect of the title) but eh, it's damn cool as it is.

Author:	Hircine [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:27 am ]
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I orderd it from HMV, haven't got it yet but i'm hyped.

Author:	MescalineSunrise [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:18 am ]
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iAm wrote: Why are Darkthrone trying to be a Crust band now(or past few albums rather)? Apparently, Fenriz is a huge fan of the genre. I for one am glad they chose to stick with the crust-y sound.

Author:	Chaosmonger [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:28 am ]
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iAm wrote: Why are Darkthrone trying to be a Crust band now(or past few albums rather)? I don't hear any crust on 'F.O.A.D.' Not sure what you're on about here.

Author:	deathcorpse [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:33 am ]
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For those who have this and have checked it out, can you please answer me a few questions... First off, is Culto's voice way out in front of the mix on this one? I have a problem with this, and with many Darkthrone albums, this factor throws me off. Second, are the riffs any good? I've tried to give current Darkthrone a whirl and had FOAD, SARDONIC WRATH, THE CULT IS ALIVE, HATE THEM etc. I'm all for the punk influenced stuff, but those albums never grabbed me. I'd rather something like KRYPT these days instead which has a bit of that Darkthrone/Celtic Frost vibe. Thanks.

Author:	206 [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:36 am ]
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I was very interested until jonpo's post. I'm such a sucker for crust.

Author:	Jonpo [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:20 am ]
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deathcorpse wrote: For those who have this and have checked it out, can you please answer me a few questions... First off, is Culto's voice way out in front of the mix on this one? I have a problem with this, and with many Darkthrone albums, this factor throws me off. I wouldn't say its obscenely high in the mix, but its prominent, yes. deathcorpse wrote: Second, are the riffs any good? I've tried to give current Darkthrone a whirl and had FOAD, SARDONIC WRATH, THE CULT IS ALIVE, HATE THEM etc. I'm all for the punk influenced stuff, but those albums never grabbed me. I'd rather something like KRYPT these days instead which has a bit of that Darkthrone/Celtic Frost vibe. Thanks. I think this basically sounds like a much more engaging version of FOAD with better riffs. I don't know if the riffs are more interesting because Fenriz took a hand in some of the crafting, or what, but I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

Author:	lord_abraxas [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:32 am ]
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The new album is really fucking good!!! it's my favorite since the cult is alive. The album is a continuation of fuck off and die but even better in my opinion. Best tracks: The Winds They Called the Dungeon Shaker, Hiking Metal Punks, Hanging Out in Haiger.

Author:	Chaosmonger [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:56 am ]
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Jonpo wrote: deathcorpse wrote: For those who have this and have checked it out, can you please answer me a few questions... First off, is Culto's voice way out in front of the mix on this one? I have a problem with this, and with many Darkthrone albums, this factor throws me off. I wouldn't say its obscenely high in the mix, but its prominent, yes. deathcorpse wrote: Second, are the riffs any good? I've tried to give current Darkthrone a whirl and had FOAD, SARDONIC WRATH, THE CULT IS ALIVE, HATE THEM etc. I'm all for the punk influenced stuff, but those albums never grabbed me. I'd rather something like KRYPT these days instead which has a bit of that Darkthrone/Celtic Frost vibe. Thanks. I think this basically sounds like a much more engaging version of FOAD with better riffs. I don't know if the riffs are more interesting because Fenriz took a hand in some of the crafting, or what, but I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I believe Fenriz wrote 4 or 5 out of the 9 songs on 'FOAD,' if I'm not mistaken. Does the new album sound more in the vein of 'These Shores are Damned?' That song is EPIC.

Author:	Jonpo [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:21 pm ]
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Chaosmonger wrote: I believe Fenriz wrote 4 or 5 out of the 9 songs on 'FOAD,' if I'm not mistaken. Does the new album sound more in the vein of 'These Shores are Damned?' That song is EPIC. Hmm, I don't know what the cause is then, I guess they just buckled down and stepped their shit up. These Shores are Damned is a pretty great song, possibly my favorite from FOAD. I don't know if I'd be comfortable with saying the entire album is on par with that song. I think there are some comparable tracks like "Oath Minus" and maybe "Norway in September". Honestly its a pretty short album, you guys could download this very quickly and decide for yourselves whether its worth your money.

Author:	DaBuddha [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:41 pm ]
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I haven't heard this yet, but I will buy it whenever I get the chance. I thought the band was on the right track with Hate Them and Sardonic Wrath, then The Cult is Alive came out and it was an instant hit with me. FOAD was not too much to my liking and honestly I don't like crust or punk at all, though I've never really given the former much of a chance. Some of the descriptions in this thread are definitely raising my hopes for this album, saying the riffs are blacker makes me happy.

Author:	Chaosmonger [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:54 pm ]
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Jonpo wrote: Chaosmonger wrote: I believe Fenriz wrote 4 or 5 out of the 9 songs on 'FOAD,' if I'm not mistaken. Does the new album sound more in the vein of 'These Shores are Damned?' That song is EPIC. Hmm, I don't know what the cause is then, I guess they just buckled down and stepped their shit up. These Shores are Damned is a pretty great song, possibly my favorite from FOAD. I don't know if I'd be comfortable with saying the entire album is on par with that song. I think there are some comparable tracks like "Oath Minus" and maybe "Norway in September". Honestly its a pretty short album, you guys could download this very quickly and decide for yourselves whether its worth your money. I'm sure I could if I had a computer ha. I'll be getting it at the local store this weekend most likely.

Author:	peterott [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:59 pm ]
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MescalineSunrise wrote: iAm wrote: Why are Darkthrone trying to be a Crust band now(or past few albums rather)? Apparently, Fenriz is a huge fan of the genre. I for one am glad they chose to stick with the crust-y sound. Since Fenriz wore a Uncurbed shirt on the promo pics of the second last record. Will wait until the vinyl-version is out.