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Slowdeathbygrind
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:15 am 
 

If anyone has listened to the new Deeds Of Flesh album you will have to agree with me that it is awesome!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:02 am 
 

Could you post a review of it? I'm fairly "meh" towards some of their work, and greatly enjoy other areas of it. How does it compare to "Reduced To Ashes", for example?
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Milo
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:23 am 
 

If it compares to "Reducted to Ashes", it's probalby a crap album. In fact, Deeds of Flesh suck.

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the16th6toothson
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:39 am 
 

it's not Mike Hamilton's fault
but everything with him to me is one droning blur
it's "alright", but i prefer the more intense/impulsive era...which is long gone

i hear on this new one they went ultra tech-modern-sweeps-arpeggio stuff, which, is a degree of a sellout in my opinion.

i guess if i had my choice, i would take a full length in the Gradually Melted style but i know that just won't happen.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:26 am 
 

Eh... I've always thought Deeds were overshadowed by better bands from their labels (Beheaded, Hour of Penance..). Inbreeding was probably the strongest they've ever achieved but albums like Crown of Souls and their new one were kinda pointless.

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rathofgod
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:09 am 
 

They kind of took a more tech-y direction than their earlier work, although I'm not sure that I would classify it as straight-up tech death. I really enjoyed this album, though, and I don't really get the hate it's getting.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:21 am 
 

I'm really meh to their work. I've heard Crown Of Souls and Reduced To Ashes and I can't say I like any of it. I'm usually a big fan of Unique Leader bands but DoF are an exception. I'm probably gonna check this album out anyways. Can't judge if I haven't heard it.

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Sepulturafreak
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:27 am 
 

Didn't strike me as being so instantly listenable as their other stuff.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:14 pm 
 

Blast blast squeal squeal raaaaaaaawr. Typical modern "technical" death metal band. It's been done a thousand times before, been done a thousand times better. Next...
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Clockhand
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:46 pm 
 

RedMisanthrope wrote:
Blast blast squeal squeal raaaaaaaawr. Typical modern "technical" death metal band. It's been done a thousand times before, been done a thousand times better. Next...


This is false.

I enjoy Deeds, but recognize the many problems others point out. They're limited.

But the statement above makes no sense.

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Anyway, the new album is significantly more intense than Crown of Souls. They caught wind that their fans and most of the death metal world thought they had become stale, and were just going through the motions. This new release is their reaction to that. It's a really big improvement.

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RedMisanthrope
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Clockhand wrote:
RedMisanthrope wrote:
Blast blast squeal squeal raaaaaaaawr. Typical modern "technical" death metal band. It's been done a thousand times before, been done a thousand times better. Next...


This is false.

I enjoy Deeds, but recognize the many problems others point out. They're limited.

But the statement above makes no sense.


It makes perfect sense if you're listening to the music. Their "riffs" sound like a New York traffic jam at high noon, and while I may have been exaggerating with the "blast blast" part, I find the drumming to be very insipid. They do nothing that makes them stand out from this new wave of death metal bands, and I'd almost go as far as to call this new album Necrophagist worship.
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MazeofTorment
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:28 pm 
 

I havent heard the new album but from what I have heard prior I've never understood why this band gets such incredibly highly rated reviews on this site. I'll be the first to say, they're talented and they're a solid as fuck tech/brutal death band but I've never heard anything by them that blew me away or really struck me as being something all that original. I'll take old Psycroptic or Spawn of Possession over them any day of the week.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:19 pm 
 

RedMisanthrope wrote:
Clockhand wrote:
RedMisanthrope wrote:
Blast blast squeal squeal raaaaaaaawr. Typical modern "technical" death metal band. It's been done a thousand times before, been done a thousand times better. Next...


This is false.

I enjoy Deeds, but recognize the many problems others point out. They're limited.

But the statement above makes no sense.


It makes perfect sense if you're listening to the music. Their "riffs" sound like a New York traffic jam at high noon, and while I may have been exaggerating with the "blast blast" part, I find the drumming to be very insipid. They do nothing that makes them stand out from this new wave of death metal bands, and I'd almost go as far as to call this new album Necrophagist worship.


I haven't listened to this album enough yet to say what I really feel about it...but it sounds nothing like Necrophagist.

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the16th6toothson
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:16 pm 
 

i like the band when they sounded like a helicopter and a swarm of bees and Deicide at the same time. (yknow, pre Hamilton era)

the Mike Hamilton stuff sounds like a swarm of bees and someone mumbling something

i too have heard the new one sounds like they jumped on the "tech means good!" nonsense Necrophagist guitar lesson band wagon. if they did or didn't my own ears will judge but...


...please bring back the Deicide'isms!

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Morbidreich
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:48 pm 
 

The material up to and including Path of the Weakening is my favorite by DOF. This new album is moving into the more technical brutal death style that too many bands are doing right now. A lot of what I liked about their early stuff has continued to fade with recent efforts. Still I need to give this album some more time to fully sink in.

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the16th6toothson
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:13 pm 
 

Morbidreich wrote:
The material up to and including Path of the Weakening is my favorite by DOF. This new album is moving into the more technical brutal death style that too many bands are doing right now. A lot of what I liked about their early stuff has continued to fade with recent efforts. Still I need to give this album some more time to fully sink in.


yup we see eye to eye, i'm sure i'll check this new album out, but we'll see.
i think-the band moving in a much more technical route is jumping the shark/shooting themselves in the foot...

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:14 pm 
 

I downloaded it and gave it a listen about a week ago. Not too bad, and I'll probably pick it up if I see it in stores, which I hope to.
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Clockhand
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:41 pm 
 

RedMisanthrope wrote:

It makes perfect sense if you're listening to the music. Their "riffs" sound like a New York traffic jam at high noon, and while I may have been exaggerating with the "blast blast" part, I find the drumming to be very insipid. They do nothing that makes them stand out from this new wave of death metal bands, and I'd almost go as far as to call this new album Necrophagist worship.


You're entitled to your opinion, but no, it really doesn't make sense. (to me)

That you've likened Deeds to Necrophagist seals it, actually. The only real similarities between the two are vague: They play technical death metal.

- Yes, you exaggerated the amount of blasting in their songs. But sure, I agree, the drumming isn't revolutionary.

- Deeds aren't even a part of the "new wave" of death metal bands. They formed in 1993, and their first release (which received attention) was released in 95. Over the years, Deeds have been a staple of what people refer to as the "California" death metal scene, but have a sound distinct from the rest of the bands. Their style is less flashy and more narrative, for example. If Deeds are to be lumped in with these new bands, it's because cues were taken from them, not vice versa.

With that said, many of the reviews for Deeds, especially this new album and crown of souls, are absurdly high. I don't endorse any of that. Deeds are a 75-88% range band, barring another jump in quality in a few years.

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Clockhand
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:44 pm 
 

the16th6toothson wrote:
Morbidreich wrote:
The material up to and including Path of the Weakening is my favorite by DOF. This new album is moving into the more technical brutal death style that too many bands are doing right now. A lot of what I liked about their early stuff has continued to fade with recent efforts. Still I need to give this album some more time to fully sink in.


yup we see eye to eye, i'm sure i'll check this new album out, but we'll see.
i think-the band moving in a much more technical route is jumping the shark/shooting themselves in the foot...


I felt this way initially, but I like the songs more now that I've spent some time with them.

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ebola_legion
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:17 pm 
 

Still sounds like Deeds of Flesh through and through, but they've introduced new elements to their music. I happen to be a fan of modern Technical Death Metal, so I think this album is great.


To all of the "It sucks, it's been done before" fags, go back to your Old School Death Metal that is some two decades old and shut the fuck up.
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the16th6toothson
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:22 pm 
 

ebola_legion wrote:
Still sounds like Deeds of Flesh through and through, but they've introduced new elements to their music. I happen to be a fan of modern Technical Death Metal, so I think this album is great.


To all of the "It sucks, it's been done before" fags, go back to your Old School Death Metal that is some two decades old and shut the fuck up.


way to alienate fella
you CAN appreciate both
i CAN enjoy both Autopsy AND Visceral Bleeding
so maybe think for a minute before you state something so brash and single minded.

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Clockhand
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:35 pm 
 

Ditto. There are good and bad bands from both eras and styles.

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thomash
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:51 pm 
 

Seriously? Are we really having another discussion about modern vs. old-school death metal? Fuck that.

Anyway, I heard a couple of tracks off of the new Deeds of Flesh recently and I was pretty impressed. It sounds pretty unique, not to mention brutal and catchy. I'll be looking into the band's discography as I have heretofore paid them too little attention.

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praey
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:55 pm 
 

I found the album pretty enjoyable after the first listen. Deeds does a good job balancing the technical aspects into their music, as the songs are enjoyable and never turn into an all-out wankfest. Nothing particularly amazing, but it's certainly a good slice of modern death metal.

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the16th6toothson
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:56 pm 
 

thomash wrote:
Seriously? Are we really having another discussion about modern vs. old-school death metal? Fuck that.

Anyway, I heard a couple of tracks off of the new Deeds of Flesh recently and I was pretty impressed. It sounds pretty unique, not to mention brutal and catchy. I'll be looking into the band's discography as I have heretofore paid them too little attention.



hahah i know man, i know...

anyway, go for the Gradually Melted ep!!!

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thomash
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:00 am 
 

the16th6toothson wrote:
anyway, go for the Gradually Melted ep!!!

Thanks; I'll check it out. I generally prefer to start with a band's early releases anyway. However, I noticed that Path of the Weakening has no reviews and was at Metal Haven recently... :D

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:08 am 
 

thomash wrote:
the16th6toothson wrote:
anyway, go for the Gradually Melted ep!!!

Thanks; I'll check it out. I generally prefer to start with a band's early releases anyway. However, I noticed that Path of the Weakening has no reviews and was at Metal Haven recently... :D


i don't miss much in CHicago, but i miss Metal Haven
Path of the Weakening is a good one, total helicopter/swarm of bees kinda stuff. for most of us Deeds fans, that's the best full length!

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thomash wrote:
the16th6toothson wrote:
anyway, go for the Gradually Melted ep!!!

Thanks; I'll check it out. I generally prefer to start with a band's early releases anyway. However, I noticed that Path of the Weakening has no reviews and was at Metal Haven recently... :D


Fuck.... looks like I'm'nna have to make a trip up there eh? This Metal Haven sounds to awesome for me to have somehow overlooked for all these years.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:36 am 
 

BastardHead wrote:
thomash wrote:
the16th6toothson wrote:
anyway, go for the Gradually Melted ep!!!

Thanks; I'll check it out. I generally prefer to start with a band's early releases anyway. However, I noticed that Path of the Weakening has no reviews and was at Metal Haven recently... :D


Fuck.... looks like I'm'nna have to make a trip up there eh? This Metal Haven sounds to awesome for me to have somehow overlooked for all these years.

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BastardHead wrote:
thomash wrote:
the16th6toothson wrote:
anyway, go for the Gradually Melted ep!!!

Thanks; I'll check it out. I generally prefer to start with a band's early releases anyway. However, I noticed that Path of the Weakening has no reviews and was at Metal Haven recently... :D


Fuck.... looks like I'm'nna have to make a trip up there eh? This Metal Haven sounds to awesome for me to have somehow overlooked for all these years.


when i lived in Chicago i referred to it as "The Grocery Store" heheheh

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i prefer

CHARLIE CHRIST

pre deeds of flesh..........

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My days off are Wednesday and Thursday, perhaps I'll pay MH a visit in a couple days. How are the prices? I only carry cash, so I'd like to now how much to bring along.
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thomash wrote:
the16th6toothson wrote:
anyway, go for the Gradually Melted ep!!!

Thanks; I'll check it out. I generally prefer to start with a band's early releases anyway. However, I noticed that Path of the Weakening has no reviews and was at Metal Haven recently... :D


Hehe you brought back some memories for me. Fuck I miss "the store". About 8 years ago I had my first taste of Deeds of Flesh with "Path of the Weakening" and it blew my fucking mind.

And yes, I bought it at Metal Haven.
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thomash
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BastardHead wrote:
My days off are Wednesday and Thursday, perhaps I'll pay MH a visit in a couple days. How are the prices? I only carry cash, so I'd like to now how much to bring along.

The prices are quite reasonable. I've never seen a CD there for more than $20, and about 90% of the time full-length CDs cost about $12-15. If it's an EP, it'll be a little cheaper and if it's a rarity, it'll be a bit more expensive. Bring LOTS of cash, though, as you will probably end up buying at least six or seven CDs if you've never been there before.

The_Emo_Hater wrote:
Hehe you brought back some memories for me. Fuck I miss "the store". About 8 years ago I had my first taste of Deeds of Flesh with "Path of the Weakening" and it blew my fucking mind.

And yes, I bought it at Metal Haven.

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BastardHead wrote:
My days off are Wednesday and Thursday, perhaps I'll pay MH a visit in a couple days. How are the prices? I only carry cash, so I'd like to now how much to bring along.



Aye, you'll find some gems there, and for relatively cheap too. Back in '00, I picked up Gorgasm's Stabwound Intercourse for only 7 bucks, and got incredibly lucky and found a copy of Supreme Evil for I think 10 bucks. :headbang:

Every time I went to MH, I usually had about 200$ or so on me. Thomash is right, you'll walk out of there with 7 or 8 new discs to spin.
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anyone else a charlie christ fan?

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Slowdeathbygrind
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:45 pm 
 

The new deeds of flesh is to me not technical death metal it is still brutal death metal still. to me i feel everyone is doing what Decrepit Birth did with there second album they're getting much more technical but deeds of flesh is still not techincal enough to be called technical death metal

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TheDave
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:06 pm 
 

They've definitely hopped on the new tech death bandwagon. It's not necessarily bad, I was just shocked when I heard it.

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They were playing this style of music before the bandwagon started, so I wouldn't say that.
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They were playing this style of music before the bandwagon started, so I wouldn't say that.

thank you. hell, theyve been around since before most of the people in these modern tech death bands could wipe their own asses.
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