Encyclopaedia Metallum: The Metal Archives :: View topic

Worst news I've heard all day.

No more New Kingdom

This guy sounds like a drunk Timo Koltipelto with asthma or something.

Yep, Kaledon is done. This is incredibly boring, faceless crap that I won't ever bother checking out. It's really only a couple steps above Evergrey's Torn, actually - pseudo-intellectual serious bullshit. Shame; I do like the keyboards and the guitars at times, but I won't be buying into this because of that.

I'm listening to that music video everyone was bitching about and I must say you are all crazy. This rules, and is way better than the drivel they're doing this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ScdzpW ... re=related

And this one, too. Total mid-era Stratovarius worship, and it's great. :headbang:

Empyreal wrote:

That one is a step up from The New Kingdom (which I have to admit is catchy... but good? No). Still hilarious but not nearly as much as he isn't wearing pajamas and making ridiculous hand gestures the entire time.

Yeah, the video is gay, but The New Kingdom isn't a bad song at all; just sort of derivative and cliched. I just like how they don't really take themselves seriously at all and yet manage to make quality Power Metal and not sound like Rhapsody or something. They're sincere and they sound like they're having fun, not trying to impress anyone or appeal to any crowd.

Empyreal wrote:

So being derivative and cliche isn't bad? Generally I find those things to be pretty indicative of poor music. I suppose that's a staple of most power metal anyways, though. Can't exactly be balls deep in the genre without being able to accept that, so whatever. I'll just stick with Angra and Blind Guardian and a handful of other things and leave it at that for power metal.

Empyreal wrote:

I really didn't understand you, did you say you won't ever check Kaledon, and the gave a link for a song of them??

Metaluis90 wrote:

Empyreal wrote:

I really didn't understand you, did you say you won't ever check Kaledon, and the gave a link for a song of them??

No...I said I wouldn't listen to this new stuff now that I don't like the change in vocalists.

lol ManofWar, I didn't know that you were here too...

about the vocalist, yeah, he is a lot better than the other.

Author:	ManofWar55 [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:	Kaledon got a new vocalist!!!
And he doesn't sound like he's gay either!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhzf0m0PJZk I actually like it!! Wow, Kaledon. What a surprise!!

Author:	Balaam_Abaddon [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:54 pm ]
Post subject:
Yeah, the new vocalist is a hell of a lot better, I actually sat through that whole song, and I loved it. Thanks for posting this man.

Author:	BardInTheForest [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:
Worst news I've heard all day. No more New Kingdom .

Author:	Crick [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:45 pm ]
Post subject:
THIIIIIIIIIIIIS ISSSSSSSSSSSS THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NUUUUUUW KEEEENGDUMMMMMMM. Also, AAAAAAAAAARCHERS ARE UHN THE TOWELS. That said, I have not been able to take this band seriously because of that horrid music video. Maybe this will change my opinion.

Author:	PeachPit [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:
I noticed the drummer was wearing a slipknot shirt much too late I was waiting for some crazy falsetto, but the vocalist sounded like he was really trying to contain himself, like he was trying to keep himself in check. He does sound good though.

Encyclopaedia Metallum: The Metal Archives https://forum.metal-archives.com/

Kaledon got a new vocalist!!! https://forum.metal-archives.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45253	Page 1 of 1

Author:	ManofWar55 [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:54 pm ]
Post subject:
I know. It's like 10x better!!

Author:	samekh [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:43 pm ]
Post subject:
BardInTheForest wrote: Worst news I've heard all day. No more New Kingdom . Haha, I know. Now that they're not unintentionally hilarious, I have no reason to listen to this band.

Author:	Empyreal [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:
This guy sounds like a drunk Timo Koltipelto with asthma or something. Yep, Kaledon is done. This is incredibly boring, faceless crap that I won't ever bother checking out. It's really only a couple steps above Evergrey's Torn, actually - pseudo-intellectual serious bullshit. Shame; I do like the keyboards and the guitars at times, but I won't be buying into this because of that. I'm listening to that music video everyone was bitching about and I must say you are all crazy. This rules, and is way better than the drivel they're doing this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ScdzpW ... re=related And this one, too. Total mid-era Stratovarius worship, and it's great.

Author:	The_Boss [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:
Yeah I'm with Empyreal, I prefer the old vocalist. I dunno so much about this new guy but the Kaledon album I have is really damn good and the vocalist was always decent.

Author:	BardInTheForest [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:
Empyreal wrote: This guy sounds like a drunk Timo Koltipelto with asthma or something. Yep, Kaledon is done. This is incredibly boring, faceless crap that I won't ever bother checking out. It's really only a couple steps above Evergrey's Torn, actually - pseudo-intellectual serious bullshit. Shame; I do like the keyboards and the guitars at times, but I won't be buying into this because of that. I'm listening to that music video everyone was bitching about and I must say you are all crazy. This rules, and is way better than the drivel they're doing this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ScdzpW ... re=related And this one, too. Total mid-era Stratovarius worship, and it's great. That one is a step up from The New Kingdom (which I have to admit is catchy... but good? No). Still hilarious but not nearly as much as he isn't wearing pajamas and making ridiculous hand gestures the entire time.

Author:	Empyreal [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:15 pm ]
Post subject:
BardInTheForest wrote: Empyreal wrote: This guy sounds like a drunk Timo Koltipelto with asthma or something. Yep, Kaledon is done. This is incredibly boring, faceless crap that I won't ever bother checking out. It's really only a couple steps above Evergrey's Torn, actually - pseudo-intellectual serious bullshit. Shame; I do like the keyboards and the guitars at times, but I won't be buying into this because of that. I'm listening to that music video everyone was bitching about and I must say you are all crazy. This rules, and is way better than the drivel they're doing this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ScdzpW ... re=related And this one, too. Total mid-era Stratovarius worship, and it's great. That one is a step up from The New Kingdom (which I have to admit is catchy... but good? No). Still hilarious but not nearly as much as he isn't wearing pajamas and making ridiculous hand gestures the entire time. Yeah, the video is gay, but The New Kingdom isn't a bad song at all; just sort of derivative and cliched. I just like how they don't really take themselves seriously at all and yet manage to make quality Power Metal and not sound like Rhapsody or something. They're sincere and they sound like they're having fun, not trying to impress anyone or appeal to any crowd.

Author:	Aeonblade [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:
Booooo, these guys are lame in general, but at least the old singer was worth a few laughs.

Author:	Empyreal [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:
BardInTheForest wrote: Empyreal wrote: Yeah, the video is gay, but The New Kingdom isn't a bad song at all; just sort of derivative and cliched. I just like how they don't really take themselves seriously at all and yet manage to make quality Power Metal and not sound like Rhapsody or something. They're sincere and they sound like they're having fun, not trying to impress anyone or appeal to any crowd. So being derivative and cliche isn't bad? Generally I find those things to be pretty indicative of poor music. I suppose that's a staple of most power metal anyways, though. Can't exactly be balls deep in the genre without being able to accept that, so whatever. I'll just stick with Angra and Blind Guardian and a handful of other things and leave it at that for power metal. Every genre has their derivative and cliched bands, not just PM. Look at all the Black Metal bedroom bands and Darkthrone wannabes, and the Death Metal bands that try to be Autopsy and Morbid Angel. And let's not go into Thrash. And plenty of things can be good while still being derivative and cliched, it just has to do with how much energy you put into it. Of course, bands like that will probably never be top-tier, but it can still be quality. Kaledon aren't a great Power Metal band by any stretch, but they are competent enough and they used to play some fun stuff.

Author:	Empyreal [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:
I think it's actually that awesome Power Metal bands aren't as plentiful as those in other genres, for some strange reason. The good bands are just as good as the best from any other genre, but it's hard to find new talent right now. Black and Death and Thrash bands can be good whether they're independent or on a big label, as raw production sounds good with these genres, but Power Metal is seriously neutered without a kick-ass production job to accent the riffs and the power of the vocals, and so many of the little bands fade into obscurity quickly.

Author:	TheUglySoldier [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:27 am ]
Post subject:
The vocals are good, but the song itself is very boring. Not saying the musicians aren't talented, the general structure of the song is just very stock and bland.

Page 1 of 1	All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group http://www.phpbb.com/

Author:	BardInTheForest [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:43 am ]
Post subject:
You've definitely got a point about the production. I'd say actual musical talent seems to play a big factor in it as well. Power metal seems to rely on more technical elements (more leads, etc.) although thats not always the case and there are obviously more technical bands in other genres, you basically have to be musically competent to play even decent power metal. So the number of absolutely shitty bands seems to be lower while the number of simply decent, derivative, generic seems to be much higher. As for this video, I hate the drummer because he's wearing a Slipknot shirt (alright, if you like a song or two, fine, but if you own a shirt, fuck you). The music is way better than anything I'd heard from them in the past and the new vocalist actually sounds pretty good. Has a lot more "power" in his voice than the previous one, thats for sure. Still need work on lyrics, though.

Author:	Empyreal [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:17 am ]
Post subject:
The new vocalist doesn't even sound technically good. He sounds like the lovechild of latter-day Timo Koltipelto and Tom Englund, and that isn't something to be proud of.

Author:	Metaluis90 [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:
lol ManofWar, I didn't know that you were here too... about the vocalist, yeah, he is a lot better than the other.

Author:	Metaluis90 [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:29 pm ]
Post subject:
Empyreal wrote: This guy sounds like a drunk Timo Koltipelto with asthma or something. Yep, Kaledon is done. This is incredibly boring, faceless crap that I won't ever bother checking out. It's really only a couple steps above Evergrey's Torn, actually - pseudo-intellectual serious bullshit. Shame; I do like the keyboards and the guitars at times, but I won't be buying into this because of that. I'm listening to that music video everyone was bitching about and I must say you are all crazy. This rules, and is way better than the drivel they're doing this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ScdzpW ... re=related And this one, too. Total mid-era Stratovarius worship, and it's great. I really didn't understand you, did you say you won't ever check Kaledon, and the gave a link for a song of them??

Author:	Empyreal [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:
Metaluis90 wrote: Empyreal wrote: This guy sounds like a drunk Timo Koltipelto with asthma or something. Yep, Kaledon is done. This is incredibly boring, faceless crap that I won't ever bother checking out. It's really only a couple steps above Evergrey's Torn, actually - pseudo-intellectual serious bullshit. Shame; I do like the keyboards and the guitars at times, but I won't be buying into this because of that. I'm listening to that music video everyone was bitching about and I must say you are all crazy. This rules, and is way better than the drivel they're doing this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ScdzpW ... re=related And this one, too. Total mid-era Stratovarius worship, and it's great. I really didn't understand you, did you say you won't ever check Kaledon, and the gave a link for a song of them?? No...I said I wouldn't listen to this new stuff now that I don't like the change in vocalists.

Author:	Metaluis90 [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:01 pm ]
Post subject:
Empyreal wrote: Metaluis90 wrote: Empyreal wrote: This guy sounds like a drunk Timo Koltipelto with asthma or something. Yep, Kaledon is done. This is incredibly boring, faceless crap that I won't ever bother checking out. It's really only a couple steps above Evergrey's Torn, actually - pseudo-intellectual serious bullshit. Shame; I do like the keyboards and the guitars at times, but I won't be buying into this because of that. I'm listening to that music video everyone was bitching about and I must say you are all crazy. This rules, and is way better than the drivel they're doing this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ScdzpW ... re=related And this one, too. Total mid-era Stratovarius worship, and it's great. I really didn't understand you, did you say you won't ever check Kaledon, and the gave a link for a song of them?? No...I said I wouldn't listen to this new stuff now that I don't like the change in vocalists. ok, thx for clearing it up (for me )

Author:	ManofWar55 [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:
Metaluis90 wrote: lol ManofWar, I didn't know that you were here too... about the vocalist, yeah, he is a lot better than the other. Hey!!! What's up?? Nice to see you on this wonderful website!!