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Balaam_Abaddon
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:02 pm 
 

Do you think Burzum will come out with new stuff? I mean, we already heard some of the stuff Varg recorded in prison, but when he is fully released, do you guys know or think the band will get back together and come out with new shit? What are your throughts?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:10 pm 
 

I'd really love to think there will be another Burzum album. I think Varg said somewhere that when he gets out of jail he wants to slip into obscurity in the Norwegian countryside though. I'll say this though, if he did release a new album in the black metal vein, it would be one of the most highly anticipated albums in the metal underground ever

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:25 pm 
 

SpiritOfTheForest wrote:
I think Varg said somewhere that when he gets out of jail he wants to slip into obscurity in the Norwegian countryside though.

I read in an interview somewhere (forgot which site it was) that he intends on moving to France with his wife (she's French apparently) and children once released.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:28 pm 
 

Viral wrote:
SpiritOfTheForest wrote:
I think Varg said somewhere that when he gets out of jail he wants to slip into obscurity in the Norwegian countryside though.

I read in an interview somewhere (forgot which site it was) that he intends on moving to France with his wife (she's French apparently) and children once released.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:35 pm 
 

He's stated a while ago that he plans to make black metal exactly like he used to. Even saying that if he wished to make a different style of metal, he wouldn't be able to because Burzum is all he can compose.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:37 pm 
 

CountBlagorath wrote:
Viral wrote:
SpiritOfTheForest wrote:
I think Varg said somewhere that when he gets out of jail he wants to slip into obscurity in the Norwegian countryside though.

I read in an interview somewhere (forgot which site it was) that he intends on moving to France with his wife (she's French apparently) and children once released.


Well, I just learned something new.

Sorry, it wasn't an interview. Just a statement he made to the press. Here it is: http://www.anus.com/metal/about/blog/pi ... .php?id=49

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Viral wrote:
CountBlagorath wrote:
Viral wrote:
SpiritOfTheForest wrote:
I think Varg said somewhere that when he gets out of jail he wants to slip into obscurity in the Norwegian countryside though.

I read in an interview somewhere (forgot which site it was) that he intends on moving to France with his wife (she's French apparently) and children once released.


Well, I just learned something new.

Sorry, it wasn't an interview. Just a statement he made to the press. Here it is: http://www.anus.com/metal/about/blog/pi ... .php?id=49


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:51 pm 
 

Wow that's news to me. I suppose Varg's thoughts change like the weather though.

To me though, in a way the last Burzum track we've heard to date (the keyboard version of The Crying Orc from Hlidskalf) is a perfect ending to the career of Burzum. That 1.16 of soft keyboard total encompasses the feeling of gloom and longing, while retaining a certain kind of beauty that I think Varg was trying to capture

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:00 am 
 

The thought of Varg releasing another album above release is just a mindblowing and exciting thought. I mean just imagine it... the atmospheric cover art, the good ol' Burzum logo written up in the top left-hand corner in your hand with its plastic covering on it. And you just know... that awesomeness will grace your ears upon listening. Seriously, I cannot wait.

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Reign_of_Praine wrote:
The thought of Varg releasing another album above release is just a mindblowing and exciting thought. I mean just imagine it... the atmospheric cover art, the good ol' Burzum logo written up in the top left-hand corner in your hand with its plastic covering on it. And you just know... that awesomeness will grace your ears upon listening. Seriously, I cannot wait.


I wonder if Varg will start using the original logo found on the DSP version of the s/t. I prefer it, and it's used exclusively on burzum.org
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:03 am 
 

I'd love for Varg to release as new Burzum album. But like said before he changes his mind all the time so that probably won't happen.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:07 am 
 

I hope he'll release an album once those dicks known as the Norwegian Judicial System let him go. He's being kept so long for political reasons...do you really think a normal person or an immigrant who had murdered someone would be kept this long?

If he does release an album the hype around it will be enormous, and I forsee that it'll be good but a huge number of people will be disappointed and will hate it for simply not being THE old Burzum even if it's the same style.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:09 am 
 

While I love Burzum, I sometimes think that had he not the obvious notariety that has follwed him what with the killing of Euronymous and the church burnings et all, how much in anticipation for a new album would he still garner? It seems you guys might be expecting too much.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:17 am 
 

marktheviktor wrote:
While I love Burzum, I sometimes think that had he not the obvious notariety that has follwed him what with the killing of Euronymous and the church burnings et all, how much in anticipation for a new album would he still garner? It seems you guys might be expecting too much.


I honestly think Varg's music is so fantastic that even if none of those events had happened in 1993, this release would still be highly anticipated.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:27 am 
 

Nolan_B wrote:
marktheviktor wrote:
While I love Burzum, I sometimes think that had he not the obvious notariety that has follwed him what with the killing of Euronymous and the church burnings et all, how much in anticipation for a new album would he still garner? It seems you guys might be expecting too much.


I honestly think Varg's music is so fantastic that even if none of those events had happened in 1993, this release would still be highly anticipated.


The way I see it is, Burzum ain't better than Darkthrone yet we get so spoiled by the latter's prolific offerings that we don't anticipate them as high as Varg's possible comeback.
Please note that this guy has been incarcerated for the last 14 years and he is well into his thirties now. People grow older and prison changes a person-for good or for bad- so we don't know how much of an effect that will have.

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DaBuddha
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:40 am 
 

If he makes a new album I would hope it would be along the lines of Filosofem.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:44 am 
 

marktheviktor wrote:
While I love Burzum, I sometimes think that had he not the obvious notariety that has follwed him what with the killing of Euronymous and the church burnings et all, how much in anticipation for a new album would he still garner? It seems you guys might be expecting too much.


Well the anticipation would be obviously lower not because of his actions but because, had he not done what he did (murder, arson, etc) he'd not have been in prison in the first place and would've probably been releasing albums on a regular basis, so anticipation would be inferior. It's because it's been such a long time.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:45 am 
 

DaBuddha wrote:
If he makes a new album I would hope it would be along the lines of Filosofem.

The last time he mentioned new music he said that that would be how it would most likely sound, so you might be in luck. I'd be happy if he continued on in that vein too.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:54 am 
 

My main worry is his voice. The instruments may all still be up to par with old Burzum, but what the hell do Varg's screams even sound like now?
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Revengeance
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:59 am 
 

MaDTransilvanian wrote:
marktheviktor wrote:
While I love Burzum, I sometimes think that had he not the obvious notariety that has follwed him what with the killing of Euronymous and the church burnings et all, how much in anticipation for a new album would he still garner? It seems you guys might be expecting too much.


Well the anticipation would be obviously lower not because of his actions but because, had he not done what he did (murder, arson, etc) he'd not have been in prison in the first place and would've probably been releasing albums on a regular basis, so anticipation would be inferior. It's because it's been such a long time.


I wholeheartedly disagree. You're suggesting that anticipation would be lower because he hasn't released things in 14 years, which is utterly false: there has been a demand for a new album for a very long time and he's had the very same long time (in a gloomy circumstance no less) to conceive of a new release (in short: and demand + having to wait = anticipation by definition). now you may be implying that his songwriting will be worse since he'll be rusty, which, IF people believed, would lower anticipation... but they don't, and they have good reason not to. There're at least rumours that he's been writing material while incarcerated, and as I implied above, he's been forced in a gloomy drawn out life which coincides perfectly with the musical style he'd already established himself as adept at writing in. If he's got any intellectual control over what he produces he'll be better equipped now than ever before*.

*barring the material he's already put out and therefore can't simply repeat with efficacy

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:08 am 
 

MaDTransilvanian wrote:
marktheviktor wrote:
While I love Burzum, I sometimes think that had he not the obvious notariety that has follwed him what with the killing of Euronymous and the church burnings et all, how much in anticipation for a new album would he still garner? It seems you guys might be expecting too much.


Well the anticipation would be obviously lower not because of his actions but because, had he not done what he did (murder, arson, etc) he'd not have been in prison in the first place and would've probably been releasing albums on a regular basis, so anticipation would be inferior. It's because it's been such a long time.


Quite right. I stand corrected. Let me say this though; The best thing about metal and all the bands out there for certain types of metal that we like, there is always a certain other band that "fills the niche" of a once great one that has been gone or has decided to move in another direction. And some of them even improve greatly on the influencing band. Example: Celtic Frost went by the wayside and in came the mighty Darkthrone to take the bataan and enhance the type of music they played. Immortal plays a style of black metal that Bathory once gave us. And when Varg wasn't able to give us the type of music we yearned for, Akhenaten filled his nich with Judas Iscariot. Sure, we can't wait and we all welcome the return of the old kings and it is nice to have the option to go back and listen to the originals but sooner or later someone will come in and improve on you sometimes.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:10 am 
 

I can see it now... Burzum headlining Wacken 2012. :headbang:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:12 am 
 

Hey, can someone post the picture of the hoax Burzum album that was put on the official page for one day?? The brown coloured one with the donkey, etc.
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How does he have a 2 year old kid?
Did his wife do him while he was in jail or something, or was he smart enough to sperm bank some?
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Revengeance wrote:
MaDTransilvanian wrote:
marktheviktor wrote:
While I love Burzum, I sometimes think that had he not the obvious notariety that has follwed him what with the killing of Euronymous and the church burnings et all, how much in anticipation for a new album would he still garner? It seems you guys might be expecting too much.


Well the anticipation would be obviously lower not because of his actions but because, had he not done what he did (murder, arson, etc) he'd not have been in prison in the first place and would've probably been releasing albums on a regular basis, so anticipation would be inferior. It's because it's been such a long time.


I wholeheartedly disagree. You're suggesting that anticipation would be lower because he hasn't released things in 14 years, which is utterly false: there has been a demand for a new album for a very long time and he's had the very same long time (in a gloomy circumstance no less) to conceive of a new release (in short: and demand + having to wait = anticipation by definition). now you may be implying that his songwriting will be worse since he'll be rusty, which, IF people believed, would lower anticipation... but they don't, and they have good reason not to. There're at least rumours that he's been writing material while incarcerated, and as I implied above, he's been forced in a gloomy drawn out life which coincides perfectly with the musical style he'd already established himself as adept at writing in. If he's got any intellectual control over what he produces he'll be better equipped now than ever before*.

*barring the material he's already put out and therefore can't simply repeat with efficacy


Um no, actually read my post more closely. I said that anticipation WILL be bigger now because of the 14 year absence AS OPPOSED to what it would have been (lower) if he had not commited any crimes and therefore would not have been incarcerated, thus having the ability to write music on a regular basis. I said it would be lower had he not done what he did.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:42 am 
 

LotF wrote:
How does he have a 2 year old kid?

Probably conjugal visits. Or maybe their liberal, revolving-door prison system - I think I read somewhere he gets out for a few days for good behaviour during the last few years?

I'm no expert on the law, but don't most countries have laws in place to stop convicted people profiting from their crimes? Or diverting profits back to victims of crime ie Øystein's family? So there'd be no financial incentive for him to record again, as much as i'd love to see another Filosofem.

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LotF wrote:
How does he have a 2 year old kid?
Did his wife do him while he was in jail or something, or was he smart enough to sperm bank some?



This has zero bearing on Burzum's music. Keep it on topic.

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Viral wrote:
SpiritOfTheForest wrote:
I think Varg said somewhere that when he gets out of jail he wants to slip into obscurity in the Norwegian countryside though.

I read in an interview somewhere (forgot which site it was) that he intends on moving to France with his wife (she's French apparently) and children once released.


Varg isn't married, he said it in an interview on the site.

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MaDTransilvanian wrote:
Revengeance wrote:
MaDTransilvanian wrote:
marktheviktor wrote:
While I love Burzum, I sometimes think that had he not the obvious notariety that has follwed him what with the killing of Euronymous and the church burnings et all, how much in anticipation for a new album would he still garner? It seems you guys might be expecting too much.


Well the anticipation would be obviously lower not because of his actions but because, had he not done what he did (murder, arson, etc) he'd not have been in prison in the first place and would've probably been releasing albums on a regular basis, so anticipation would be inferior. It's because it's been such a long time.


I wholeheartedly disagree. You're suggesting that anticipation would be lower because he hasn't released things in 14 years, which is utterly false: there has been a demand for a new album for a very long time and he's had the very same long time (in a gloomy circumstance no less) to conceive of a new release (in short: and demand + having to wait = anticipation by definition). now you may be implying that his songwriting will be worse since he'll be rusty, which, IF people believed, would lower anticipation... but they don't, and they have good reason not to. There're at least rumours that he's been writing material while incarcerated, and as I implied above, he's been forced in a gloomy drawn out life which coincides perfectly with the musical style he'd already established himself as adept at writing in. If he's got any intellectual control over what he produces he'll be better equipped now than ever before*.

*barring the material he's already put out and therefore can't simply repeat with efficacy


Um no, actually read my post more closely. I said that anticipation WILL be bigger now because of the 14 year absence AS OPPOSED to what it would have been (lower) if he had not commited any crimes and therefore would not have been incarcerated, thus having the ability to write music on a regular basis. I said it would be lower had he not done what he did.


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redeemerofchaos wrote:
Varg isn't married, he said it in an interview on the site.

While you're right that he did say that, he's stated a couple of times that he is now, in fact, married (and that he has a son and a daughter and another son on the way; he's a prolific bastard, ey?). But again, that doesn't really have much to do with his music which is what this thread is about.

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I've always considered Burzum to be overrated and that surely, some of the hype must be due to the fact that Burzum and Varg have such an illustrious and intimidating history. In essence, I only enjoy two records and the others seemed a bit bland in comparison to other acts. I would definitely like to hear a new album, something along the lines of 'Hvis...', but whether that is likely or not, I'm not so sure. I have a feeling he won't be out for a while. I do however respect his influence on the genre I love so much. Without him and Burzum, I might not like black metal as much as I do.

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Filosofem is my favourite Burzum album so I'm extremely excited if there is new material on the way in vein of this music. The ambient effects mixed in with the raw black metal is quiiiiiiite fantastic
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I am shocked he has a French wife and has reproduced with her. From what Iv gathered from his literature, he is (or was..)extremely ethnocentric(Nordics with Nordics only..).

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Viral wrote:
Sorry, it wasn't an interview. Just a statement he made to the press. Here it is: http://www.anus.com/metal/about/blog/pi ... .php?id=49


Doesn't this state that his wife and son will be moving to France if he doesn't get parole, not him if he does?

For what it's worth, I wouldn't be excited about another Burzum album despite being a huge Burzum fan. Name me a single groundbreaking band who stopped releasing music for 10 years then came back and released an equally groundbreaking album. Anything less would sully the Burzum name even more than those daft keyboard albums.
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I really don't know what Varg will do. He says something one time and then something else the next. Who knows?
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Crick wrote:
My main worry is his voice. The instruments may all still be up to par with old Burzum, but what the hell do Varg's screams even sound like now?


Surely they couldn't be any worse.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:16 am 
 

If there's one thing we can say about Varg Vikerness, it's that he can't seem to make up his mind. Who knows what he'll do once he gets out, likely he'll change his mind a few times before then.

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He will move into norwegian countryside and he will grow potatoes, breed cows and he will make another 1-2 burzum albums.
only serious source is burzum.org, there you will find.

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I wonder if people will hurt him when he's released. Everyone knows where his new house his, a friend of mine even saw him in the streets some months ago, while he was having a break from prison.
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Didn't he refer to metal as "nigger music"? I think if he's going to release any albums they would be ambient.

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