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Atheist_Hero
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:26 pm 
 

ForNaught wrote:
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He's stated a while ago that he plans to make black metal exactly like he used to. Even saying that if he wished to make a different style of metal, he wouldn't be able to because Burzum is all he can compose.


What about Dauði Baldrs and Hliðskjálf? :lol:


What about them? They're very similar to his metal output in terms of compositional style, mood, etc. They're just arranged entirely differently. He could easily just walk out of jail and re-record them as black metal pieces and produce material that is at worst pretty decent.


Perhaps. But it proves that he has the ability (maybe even desire) to produce something other than black metal.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:03 pm 
 

He said in the same interview that he would like to rerecord Daudi Baldrs when he gets out, because he heard another band cover it in a metal version, and he liked it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:12 pm 
 

I seriously doubt that he'll continue to make music. If he has a wife and kids and he's been in jail for about 14 years do you really think he'll want to?
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Another Burzum album would be awesome.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:40 pm 
 

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I seriously doubt that he'll continue to make music. If he has a wife and kids and he's been in jail for about 14 years do you really think he'll want to?


You don't think there would be a lure for the amount of money he would be offered? I am sure if he got a meaty signing offer he probably would go for it.

Burzum could be quite a meal ticket.. especially if he puts together some more quality albums.
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MortalScum wrote:
I seriously doubt that he'll continue to make music. If he has a wife and kids and he's been in jail for about 14 years do you really think he'll want to?


I don't see why this matters.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:01 am 
 

Nolan_B wrote:
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I seriously doubt that he'll continue to make music. If he has a wife and kids and he's been in jail for about 14 years do you really think he'll want to?


I don't see why this matters.


In all seriousness aside, do you honestly think that Varg would let family stop him from doing something he is/was passionate about? Just look and think of what kind of man Varg was back in the day. Even if he isn't the same person that he once was, there is still some lasting effects of his actions that coincide with his every day life and will forever be embedded into his genetic make-up. He was a fiend and he always will be.

If he will release another album, though, I forsee it to be quite phenomenal. No doubt about that.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:38 am 
 

MortalScum wrote:
I seriously doubt that he'll continue to make music. If he has a wife and kids and he's been in jail for about 14 years do you really think he'll want to?


Varg is all about the music and the messages he can get across from his music and the interview and public eye his music gets him so of course he will write a new album at some point but i still think it will only come if he gets the right money offered.

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Hordeofmordor
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:01 am 
 

According to burzum.org he might release an album or two, but he wants to farm and stay as far out of the public eye as possible. He even stated that he's not so sure that any albums will be released as Burzum anyways.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:24 am 
 

Hordeofmordor wrote:
According to burzum.org he might release an album or two, but he wants to farm and stay as far out of the public eye as possible. He even stated that he's not so sure that any albums will be released as Burzum anyways.


Don't blame him wanting to stay out the public eye.
If he was to release a new album it would just get him lots of public attention so its 50/50 if he will do a new album all comes don't to how much money he gets offered.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:29 am 
 

Buried_Death wrote:
Don't blame him wanting to stay out the public eye.

We can blame him for being extremely naive. Manheim once stated in an interview that two black metal fans tracked him down and paid him an unannounced visit once, what does Varg think will happen to him? He must be completely out of the loop to think he can just retreat into obscurity that easily.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:41 am 
 

EntilZha wrote:
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Don't blame him wanting to stay out the public eye.

We can blame him for being extremely naive. Manheim once stated in an interview that two black metal fans tracked him down and paid him an unannounced visit once, what does Varg think will happen to him? He must be completely out of the loop to think he can just retreat into obscurity that easily.


I agree people will be after him and i don't think many people in Norway will accept him when he gets out.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:09 am 
 

Buried_Death wrote:
EntilZha wrote:
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Don't blame him wanting to stay out the public eye.

We can blame him for being extremely naive. Manheim once stated in an interview that two black metal fans tracked him down and paid him an unannounced visit once, what does Varg think will happen to him? He must be completely out of the loop to think he can just retreat into obscurity that easily.


I agree people will be after him and i don't think many people in Norway will accept him when he gets out.


Isn't he going to France?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:32 pm 
 

As long as he doesn't release shit albums, I would love it if he remained a musician. But there's not many people out there that can release ~6 progressing albums and return to it 20 years later. And hopefully he won't sell out either if he does. I consider Varg somewhat sacred in the sense it seems like he genuinely doesn't give a shit about the commercial side of metal. It's why I like Fenriz so much. I'm glad Darkthrone isn't stuck in the past like other bands are - but I'd much rather hear them attempt to recreate the past instead of crust punk (or whatever it's called). If Burzum's sound was to evolve - ambient seems like a great direction to me.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:49 pm 
 

t1337Dude wrote:
As long as he doesn't release shit albums, I would love it if he remained a musician. But there's not many people out there that can release ~6 progressing albums and return to it 20 years later. And hopefully he won't sell out either if he does. I consider Varg somewhat sacred in the sense it seems like he genuinely doesn't give a shit about the commercial side of metal. It's why I like Fenriz so much. I'm glad Darkthrone isn't stuck in the past like other bands are - but I'd much rather hear them attempt to recreate the past instead of crust punk (or whatever it's called). If Burzum's sound was to evolve - ambient seems like a great direction to me.


Well i agree on the part it will be hard to follow 6 albums but i'm not much of a fan of his ambient work so i hope he goes back to his old style and i dout he would ever do commercial stuff.
Darkthrone has gone more commercial they sound more Heavy metal now it's good but it's more main stream now.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:59 pm 
 

cultofkraken wrote:
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I seriously doubt that he'll continue to make music. If he has a wife and kids and he's been in jail for about 14 years do you really think he'll want to?


You don't think there would be a lure for the amount of money he would be offered? I am sure if he got a meaty signing offer he probably would go for it.

Burzum could be quite a meal ticket.. especially if he puts together some more quality albums.

He could buy quite a lot of sheep with the money to get his herd started out on the farm.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:26 am 
 

Buried_Death wrote:
Well i agree on the part it will be hard to follow 6 albums but i'm not much of a fan of his ambient work so i hope he goes back to his old style and i dout he would ever do commercial stuff.
Darkthrone has gone more commercial they sound more Heavy metal now it's good but it's more main stream now.


Since when was being more accessible/heavy make something more mainstream? Even if it does, Darkthrone are still very far from it.

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He could buy quite a lot of sheep with the money to get his herd started out on the farm.


Maybe Varg should move to New Zealand? :lol:
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:43 am 
 

Buried_Death wrote:
t1337Dude wrote:
As long as he doesn't release shit albums, I would love it if he remained a musician. But there's not many people out there that can release ~6 progressing albums and return to it 20 years later. And hopefully he won't sell out either if he does. I consider Varg somewhat sacred in the sense it seems like he genuinely doesn't give a shit about the commercial side of metal. It's why I like Fenriz so much. I'm glad Darkthrone isn't stuck in the past like other bands are - but I'd much rather hear them attempt to recreate the past instead of crust punk (or whatever it's called). If Burzum's sound was to evolve - ambient seems like a great direction to me.


Well i agree on the part it will be hard to follow 6 albums but i'm not much of a fan of his ambient work so i hope he goes back to his old style and i dout he would ever do commercial stuff.
Darkthrone has gone more commercial they sound more Heavy metal now it's good but it's more main stream now.


I have no idea what Heavy Metal you have been listening to, but the new Darkthrone stuff is very punkish.

Back on the Burzum track, whatever Varg wishes to do, it will be the best for his project. His black metal and ambient stuff can only get better. This can be seen if you carefully look at his track record. By the time he switched off to ambient, his Black Metal material was very top notch, or at least in my eyes, and over time, his ambient material became very fine tuned and actually sounded really good. So, in essence, whatever style he wishes to continue with, if he chooses to release another album, will ultimately be good.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:20 am 
 

Balaam_Abaddon wrote:
Do you think Burzum will come out with new stuff? I mean, we already heard some of the stuff Varg recorded in prison, but when he is fully released, do you guys know or think the band will get back together and come out with new shit? What are your throughts?



I read an interview of Varg on www.burzum.org that said when he gets out he plans on recording at least one more album in the black metal vein. And later plans on living out in the vast wilderness of norway with his girlfriend (may be wife by now). But who knows if he was really interviewed and said those thing's. Theres so many lies about him that it's hard to find out whats really going on.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:31 am 
 

Konig_ov_Hel wrote:
I have no idea what Heavy Metal you have been listening to, but the new Darkthrone stuff is very punkish.


I have no idea what punk you've been listening to, but other than The Cult is Alive, the new Darkthrone stuff isn't very punkish.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:37 am 
 

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I have no idea what Heavy Metal you have been listening to, but the new Darkthrone stuff is very punkish.


I have no idea what punk you've been listening to, but other than The Cult is Alive, the new Darkthrone stuff isn't very punkish.


Well, if you wouldn't call it crust punk, or whatever, then what would you call it? Because nothing else really even fits.
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Oh dear, I suggest you actually go listen to some crust. F.O.A.D and Dark Thrones have quite a bit of trad/speed/thrash in them. There is a minor punk influence, but it's more of a Motorhead orientated punk thing. :D

Heck, I think the band describes their genre best, "New Wave of Black Heavy Metal." :D:D:D

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:46 am 
 

Bezerko wrote:
Oh dear, I suggest you actually go listen to some crust. F.O.A.D and Dark Thrones have quite a bit of trad/speed/thrash in them. There is a minor punk influence, but it's more of a Motorhead orientated punk thing. :D

Heck, I think the band describes their genre best, "New Wave of Black Heavy Metal." :D:D:D


Perhaps I was a little harsh on the subject, considering I've only listened to a couple tracks. Anyway, I will check them out and I apologize for getting the thread off topic.
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If Varg releases more music, I really hope he releases it under the Burzum name in the end. I'd really like to know what I'm getting if he puts out more stuff.
I would say I could tell by his vox, but hes been in jail so long there's no telling how he sounds anymore.
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TheJizzHammer wrote:
If Varg releases more music, I really hope he releases it under the Burzum name in the end. I'd really like to know what I'm getting if he puts out more stuff.
I would say I could tell by his vox, but hes been in jail so long there's no telling how he sounds anymore.


Everyone keeps saying that they hope that he releases it under the Burzum name and logo... Am I missing something here? Is he affiliated with any other bands that he performed music with, prior to being incarcerated?
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Wow... how many of these threads have we made.
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Varg has previously stated that he wants to release some more books, possibly under a different name than Varg Vikernes to avoid attention but that he wants to release more BURZUM albums.

Reading comprehension has gone out the window in the world I guess.

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Bezerko wrote:
Varg has previously stated that he wants to release some more books, possibly under a different name than Varg Vikernes to avoid attention but that he wants to release more BURZUM albums.

Reading comprehension has gone out the window in the world I guess.


Sorry, if it was mentioned earlier in the thread, then it is very likely that I over looked it. I don't take the time to read post by post, so it is possible that I missed it because of that. But thanks for clearing that up. I know he wants to drop out of sight and mind of the public eye, but that will be very difficult for a man of his stature to do.
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He really has no chance, the media and whatnot already know where he lives/will live, nice quaint little red place.

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Bezerko wrote:
He really has no chance, the media and whatnot already know where he lives/will live, nice quaint little red place.


Yea.. He will become another Britney Spears, only hairier.

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He may become the new underwear model for Fruit of the Loom.

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OMG! haha... That made me laugh so hard... God, my sides hurt.
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Konig_ov_Hel wrote:
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OMG! haha... That made me laugh so hard... God, my sides hurt.


Haha that was funny :P
Anyways Darkthrone last 2 albums have been very punk like with heavy metal elements to the music. The sound like a more punk heavy metal version of motorhead. Even says in the booklets they take inspiration from heavy metal music like motorhead for there songs in F.O.A.D.
So all i was saying was Darkthrone have alot more mainstream music now adays but it's still good so who cares.
Back to the subject matter....
Varg will never release a album as good as his old stuff i think his past his hay days of so called king of black metal. Will just get murdered by one of his hate fan's or live on a farm with his wife for the rest of his life or get paided lot's of money and release a crap album.

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Just thought I would quote this for those who haven't read it;

Varg Vikernes wrote:
The real Varg Vikernes is not that interesting, I think, and there is not much to say about me, and in any case, when I get out of prison, whenever that may be, I will disappear from public view anyhow. As I see it I am a prisoner on a ship ("The Sodom & Gomorrah") - the modern world - heading for disaster, and when I am released from captivity I will jump overboard and swim back to dry land a.s.a.p.. I don't want anything to do with this thoroughly sick so-called civilization, so I will do my best to get away from it all. There will be no more articles like this one, no more (strictly speaking) unnecessary communication with strangers in the modern world and no interviews. I will publish a few books, possibly using a pseudonym in order to stay anonymous, and perhaps a Burzum album or two, but that's it.

I say this because I have been told that some people expect a lot from me when I am released. Well; don't expect anything. Unless You look for my books or albums You can expect to never hear from or about me again. I don't want anything to do with You or the thoroughly sick world You live in. Count me out. I am going home, to the Norwegian countryside, to the wilderness and fresh air, to a healthy farm-life and Mother Earth's embrace. You can have Your plagued urban brothel and Your sick mongrel Hell on Earth to Yourself.


Those are Varg's thoughts and there isn't really anything in there that hasn't already been discussed.
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First post on this board for me!

Since I have noticed that Vikernes threads come a dime a dozen on here I´m seriously amazed about how much attention the man still gets and how much significance is still attached to each and every single statement or rather gossip that sporadically leaks out of his prison cell.

Is he married or not? Is he moving to France or farming in his native Norway? How many children does he have with how many women? Is the True Black Metal community a fucking coffee party nowadays?

Admittedly I´ve been pretty much absorbed in the rising Norwegian Black Metal underground in the mid-nineties and Vikernes was of course a polarizing but leading force in that movement but still we were in our teens back then and he was barely twenty. Yet 15 years later the kids cling to him and his childish sense of self-importance as if time hasn´t told everybody that he is a hypocrite, a blatant lier, selfish murderer and last but not least a fucking racist ignoramus. It seems he knows how to reach those of you who (to quote Paradise Lost) know that the truth is always right but still think it´s time to search for lies.

Will he make a new album after his release? Well, why not, everybody and his mother have had comebacks in 2008. At least Cynic, Carcass or At the Gates know how to properly play their instruments...

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