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Frozenbirth
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:15 am 
 

I have recently stumbled across this band and they are quite sensational, their ability to fuse the folk and metal genres is amazing.

But I can't decide what genre it falls under, as the vocals seem almost 'Metalcore'-ish. Gaelic Folk Metal or Folk Metalcore ?

If it is the latter, I would rather not listen to them anymore. I refuse to listen to anything with the suffix 'core'.

Thanks :metal:

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MaDTransilvanian
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:22 am 
 

Eluveitie isn't -core anything. They're melodic death metal mixed with folk metal, very well I might add. The vocals don't have that much resemblance to actual metalcore, they sound alot better than that.

Plus, if you like them would you dismiss them completely just because you see some potential -core influence (which is very feeble if not outright inexistent)?

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Bezerko
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:24 am 
 

Frozenbirth wrote:
If it is the latter, I would rather not listen to them anymore. I refuse to listen to anything with the suffix 'core'.


I shall laugh at you and continue to listen to Chaos U.K., pitiful fool.

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Wet Pussy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:25 am 
 

All this talk of anything with the "-core" suffix being bad really annoys me. I can't for the life of me understand why people can say that everything "-core" sucks when old school hardcore and grindcore own.
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Frozenbirth
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:28 am 
 

Well yes, i was exaggerating. I wouldn't stop listening to it, i would just do so behind closed doors..

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Bezerko
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:30 am 
 

You don't get what we're saying, we're saying you're ignorant to what true hardcore is and are viewing the -core suffix in a very stupid manner.

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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:32 am 
 

Frozenbirth wrote:
Well yes, i was exaggerating. I wouldn't stop listening to it, i would just do so behind closed doors..

Why would you be ashamed of what you like? Lame as Hell.
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Frozenbirth
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:36 am 
 

Empyreal wrote:
Frozenbirth wrote:
Well yes, i was exaggerating. I wouldn't stop listening to it, i would just do so behind closed doors..

Why would you be ashamed of what you like? Lame as Hell.



Calm down please.

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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:37 am 
 

Frozenbirth wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
Frozenbirth wrote:
Well yes, i was exaggerating. I wouldn't stop listening to it, i would just do so behind closed doors..

Why would you be ashamed of what you like? Lame as Hell.



Calm down please.

Who says I'm not calm? I never quite understand that sentiment. It's just lame that you or anyone would only listen to something "behind closed doors."
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Atheist_Hero
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:41 am 
 

I am quite a huge fan of Eluveitie.

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Atheist_Hero
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:41 am 
 

Just thought i'd put that out there :P

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Wet Pussy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:41 am 
 

Even if you like something that others don't like, for fuck's sake be open about it. I listen to bands like Avenged Sevenfold and Slipknot and at the same time Dismember and Napalm Death are my most listened to bands on Last.FM. Being ashamed of what you listen to is like being ashamed of your race or creed because you're being ashamed of what you are instead of accepting it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:43 am 
 

MegaHassan wrote:
Even if you like something that others don't like, for fuck's sake be open about it. I listen to bands like Avenged Sevenfold and Slipknot and at the same time Dismember and Napalm Death are my most listened to bands on Last.FM. Being ashamed of what you listen to is like being ashamed of your race or creed because you're being ashamed of what you are instead of accepting it.


Deep. Why so serious?

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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:44 am 
 

Atheist_Hero wrote:
MegaHassan wrote:
Even if you like something that others don't like, for fuck's sake be open about it. I listen to bands like Avenged Sevenfold and Slipknot and at the same time Dismember and Napalm Death are my most listened to bands on Last.FM. Being ashamed of what you listen to is like being ashamed of your race or creed because you're being ashamed of what you are instead of accepting it.


Deep. Why so serious?

You are an idiot.
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Wet Pussy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:44 am 
 

:lol: I don't know, I'm like that sometimes.

EDIT: Who's the idiot, me? :P
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:45 am 
 

Empyreal wrote:
Atheist_Hero wrote:
MegaHassan wrote:
Even if you like something that others don't like, for fuck's sake be open about it. I listen to bands like Avenged Sevenfold and Slipknot and at the same time Dismember and Napalm Death are my most listened to bands on Last.FM. Being ashamed of what you listen to is like being ashamed of your race or creed because you're being ashamed of what you are instead of accepting it.


Deep. Why so serious?

You are an idiot.


Sir?

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Nhorf
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:49 am 
 

MegaHassan wrote:
Even if you like something that others don't like, for fuck's sake be open about it. I listen to bands like Avenged Sevenfold and Slipknot and at the same time Dismember and Napalm Death are my most listened to bands on Last.FM. Being ashamed of what you listen to is like being ashamed of your race or creed because you're being ashamed of what you are instead of accepting it.


Megahassan, the philosopher :P

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:51 am 
 

Why thank you, Nhorf :lol: Now can we ignore that bad post of mine and discuss the "-core" qualities in Eluveitie? :P
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:58 am 
 

MegaHassan wrote:
Why thank you, Nhorf :lol: Now can we ignore that bad post of mine and discuss the "-core" qualities in Eluveitie? :P


Everyone is too scared to. You have chased the original poster away :oh shit:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:03 am 
 

Atheist_Hero wrote:
MegaHassan wrote:
Why thank you, Nhorf :lol: Now can we ignore that bad post of mine and discuss the "-core" qualities in Eluveitie? :P


Everyone is too scared to. You have chased the original poster away :oh shit:


Me? Now what ever did I do, Sir Tynian?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:10 am 
 

MegaHassan wrote:
Atheist_Hero wrote:
MegaHassan wrote:
Why thank you, Nhorf :lol: Now can we ignore that bad post of mine and discuss the "-core" qualities in Eluveitie? :P


Everyone is too scared to. You have chased the original poster away :oh shit:


Me? Now what ever did I do, Sir Tynian?


Your Aggressive tone, Baron Parok.

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Khull
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:51 am 
 

The hilarity of this thread aside, Eluveitie are definitely an exceptional band, although I didn't really like their style at first. Something about melodeath and folk didn't sit well with me.

This also reminds me that I should probably get Slania here soon...

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diabolikon
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:59 am 
 

I can see where you might think they have -core influence. What really matters is that they're awesome.

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Unholy_Asar
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:22 am 
 

Eluveitie are a tad bit too cheesy for my liking, and I also don't think their songs are very memorable at all. This means I don't like Eluveitie. I think there are a bunch of better folk metal bands out there deserving the attention better than Eluveitie does.

I don't hear any -core in them though. Not -core of any kind. What people needs to understand is that -core does not equal bad music. A band can be as bad as they want and still not be -core in the slightest.

That being said, I hate pretty much all metalcore I've ever heard, but I hate it for a different reason than the reason I dislike Eluveitie.
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DisembowelMe
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:56 am 
 

Eluveitie is pretty damn overrated to me, and their newest release is anything but exceptional. Simplistic chugging guitars with folk instruments taking the show, much like dimmu borgir and their symponies. Would be worthless without them.

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DerekBuhr
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:11 pm 
 

It's just very energetic upbeat folk metal. Death melodic and metalcore have been getting meshed together more and more. I don't see an ounce of MDM as the guitar work isn't any where near good stellar like The Absence, and other MDM acts. The guitar riffs are very near to standard metalcore with strong rhythm palm mutes with short melodic passages, but that's the only real metalcore aspect to them, the guitars. The rest is insanely well thought out folk metal. It's a lot easier to compare them to Amorphis' faster stuff like Towards And Against if you ask me.

Or you can think of them like Korpiklaani on boat loads of coke. I like that one better personally.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:32 pm 
 

I had a chance to see them, but Dying Fetus canceled and the whole show was fucking done with. I could have got in free too, one of my friends was working the show :(

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Snowgrave
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:03 pm 
 

As far as I know, no band has ever combined folk with metalcore. I await the day...

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Shadoeking
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:10 pm 
 

I like their new album quite a bit. It's energetic and fun. The slower parts are very interesting as well. The definitely do not sound -core to me, I believe they are melodic death metal with Celtic folk influences.

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Khull
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:34 pm 
 

Snowgrave wrote:
As far as I know, no band has ever combined folk with metalcore. I await the day...

I suppose it's possible, but what would we be hearing... the typical folk instruments under an onslaught of breakdowns? :scratch:

Hey, I'll listen to anything once!

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Aeonblade
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:37 pm 
 

Don't like this band, the folk parts aren't interesting, and the guitars tend to drift too close to that Gothenburg sound for me.

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The_Boss
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:52 pm 
 

I love Eluveitie, to say their is any ounce of metalcore is stupid and you obviously haven't listened to either Eluveitie or metalcore at all. Spirit had a very rough beginning, in the way that it wasn't as defined or polished like it became to be on Slania. Although I can't choose which album I prefer, Slania is definitely at the top of 2008.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:21 pm 
 

iAm wrote:
I had a chance to see them, but Dying Fetus canceled and the whole show was fucking done with. I could have got in free too, one of my friends was working the show :(


oh no, that's terrible :(

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MaDTransilvanian
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:49 pm 
 

DerekBuhr wrote:
Death melodic


Death melodic? Been listening to too much newer Metallica?

As for Eluveitie, well, they're very talented. Miles ahead of Korpiklaani and their boring music (at least, the last album sucked). I hate the drinking music type folk metal.

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ahr888
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:49 pm 
 

I agree that Eluveitie are sensational. No metalcore though. Vocals are of the scratchy death kind a la Jeff Walker and mid In Flames but with more oomph. Genre-wise they themselves like to be seen as just folk metal.

I'd say folk melodic death metal? With the folk instruments mostly doing the melodic parts that guitars would do otherwise.

Korpiklaani and others are folk in a goofy/cheesy sort of way. That's why I find Eluveitie superior, it's more serious music.

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DisembowelMe
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:48 pm 
 

No one agree with me that slania is almost just pop metal plus folk instruments for the most part? It'd be just another gothenburg act if it weren't for the folk instruments.

I liked them a lot on Spirit, but their music just didn't last for me.

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weakling_goat
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:52 pm 
 

No idea why you wouldn't listen to something "sensational" to you just because of how it's tagged.
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schwuppe
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:57 pm 
 

DisembowelMe wrote:
No one agree with me that slania is almost just pop metal plus folk instruments for the most part? It'd be just another gothenburg act if it weren't for the folk instruments.

I liked them a lot on Spirit, but their music just didn't last for me.

I do.
It's basiclly new In Flames with random folk instruments added.

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MaDTransilvanian
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:12 pm 
 

schwuppe wrote:
DisembowelMe wrote:
No one agree with me that slania is almost just pop metal plus folk instruments for the most part? It'd be just another gothenburg act if it weren't for the folk instruments.

I liked them a lot on Spirit, but their music just didn't last for me.

I do.
It's basiclly new In Flames with random folk instruments added.


Maybe that's why I like them so much? I love In Flames (new a little less than old but still...) and folk metal.

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Konig_ov_Hel
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:18 pm 
 

This thread seriously brought the lawlz. But anyway.. this band is probably one of the most sensational Folk(ish) bands that I have listened to in some time. As said, they do a really good job at fusing the Folk and Death Metal genres.
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