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aloof
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:36 am 
 

out january on nuclear blast:

Youtube: show


reportedly it's the same album he released earlier this year in finnish, this time in english...

Youtube: show


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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:56 am 
 

Sounds cool to me. His voice is so damn good. The music is your usual Finnish melodic rock/metal but it sounds solid so far - I'll check the whole thing out for sure.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:34 am 
 

No! Make more Tarot albums!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:12 pm 
 

Ooh, a solo project. Any chance he'll leave Nightwish so he stops ruining every album?
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Dullahan
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:35 pm 
 

GTog wrote:
Ooh, a solo project. Any chance he'll leave Nightwish so he stops ruining every album?


Seriously? Of all things that have been making Nightwish boring since 2002-ish, I'd place Hietala's voice very low in the list. If anything, Tuomas should restrain himself or let Emppu play more than three riffs per album.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:35 pm 
 

A lot of people hate his vocals for some weird reason. I guess it's polarizing - I dunno, I found him amazing as a singer from the first time I heard him back in 2007 and he sounds great here.

It'd be awesome to have Tarot active again, but this song is at least as good as anything off the last Tarot album, probably better than a few of them anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:14 pm 
 

Dullahan wrote:
GTog wrote:
Ooh, a solo project. Any chance he'll leave Nightwish so he stops ruining every album?


Seriously? Of all things that have been making Nightwish boring since 2002-ish, I'd place Hietala's voice very low in the list. If anything, Tuomas should restrain himself or let Emppu play more than three riffs per album.



All of this.

Marco gets away with being the "male vocalist" because he's also the bass player, so he can "hide" behind the backing vocal facade. He is a good singer though.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:19 pm 
 

Figured I rile up the Marco fans.

Tuomas = Heart & Soul of Nightwish. No Tuomas = no Nightwish. Tuomas gets to do what he wants. I agree about Emppu though.

No Marco however = better male vocals and some other mediocre bassist.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:00 pm 
 

If you think Marco was the main problem on an album as unlistenable as Imaginaerium then I dunno what to tell ya, sometimes tastes are just so different there's nothing at all to say.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:34 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
If you think Marco was the main problem on an album as unlistenable as Imaginaerium then I dunno what to tell ya, sometimes tastes are just so different there's nothing at all to say.

Pffft. Imaginaerum was a great album. The only song I would nix would be "Scaretale," and that's because it's a terrible song. Everything else ranges from decent to excellent.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:49 pm 
 

Zelkiiro wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
If you think Marco was the main problem on an album as unlistenable as Imaginaerium then I dunno what to tell ya, sometimes tastes are just so different there's nothing at all to say.

Pffft. Imaginaerum was a great album. The only song I would nix would be "Scaretale," and that's because it's a terrible song. Everything else ranges from decent to excellent.


I don't think it had even one good song. Equal parts boring and annoying. Some of the worst songwriting I've heard from a big band like that.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:42 am 
 

Zelkiiro wrote:
Pffft. Imaginaerum was a great album. The only song I would nix would be "Scaretale,"

I'd cut the monologue out of Song of Myself. It's pretty awful imo. Scaretale I never used to like but it's kinda grown on me over my last few listens.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:37 pm 
 

This is really different stuff for him. Interesting to hear some of the influences he doesn't always use as much. Kinda folky, a bit proggy. I think it could grow on me.

edit: Some of these songs are kinda Deep Purpleish. "Runner of the Railways" and "Death March to Freedom" sound like 70s rock through a kaleidoscope. Other tracks are almost like gospel-ish.
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