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BeaVssS
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:47 pm 
 

Ahhh yes, I’m back, but this time instead of asking for your favorite albums, I’m asking for your most hated. For those like me that do deep dives on genres and forces themselves to listen to full albums all the way through, there is bound to be an album you find that you want so desperately to end. I’ll also open this discussion to albums that weren’t bad per se, lets say an album you were excited to hear from a band that really disappointed you after listening to a previous album from that band. My current most hated album: Mass Black Experiment-Public Hanging. Sludge/Death band from Australia. I think it was made by a band but there’s no line up or any info at all about who plays what. It could be a single person. Truth be told it’s probably better there isn’t info added on who did it. It’s so bad if I was that band or person I’d want my name nowhere near it. The worst album experience I’ve ever had. There was nothing worth taking from any of the songs. I was so happy once it ended. The most disappointing album: Bewildering Thoughts-Threnody. I’d call their debut a masterpiece. The sophomore album was barren of any of the sounds of the original. Obviously change is necessary, but the route they took bewildered my thoughts in a negative way.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:39 pm 
 

Some of my least favorites:
Metallica - St. Anger
Thrash Queen - Manslayer
Torn Flesh - Crux of the Mosh
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:52 pm 
 

Anything by Belita Adair. She's a now 60 something porn actress (star is a touch too much) who founded some kinda Satanic cult. She's put out a number of terrible black metal under the band name Satanic Corpse. There's a real rabbit hole in there with her background. Thanks for connecting me to this travesty of music MA random band button!

Update: I haven't listened to anything she's done in years. It turns out she's got a number of projects going on, all with her as the sole member.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:55 am 
 

Terri23 wrote:
Anything by Belita Adair. She's a now 60 something porn actress (star is a touch too much) who founded some kinda Satanic cult. She's put out a number of terrible black metal under the band name Satanic Corpse. There's a real rabbit hole in there with her background. Thanks for connecting me to this travesty of music MA random band button!

Update: I haven't listened to anything she's done in years. It turns out she's got a number of projects going on, all with her as the sole member.

Looked at all her bands and yeesh, looks like a proper mess. Mildly intriguing though.....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:46 am 
 

Aryan Terrorism's War, Jewicide's Prizm of Hate, and any album from one of those Der Stürmer wannabes. I still have nightmares from listening to that Aryan Terrorism album :ugh:
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:05 am 
 

Every NSBM album

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:16 am 
 

There's a lot of goregrind bands out there with names like Hyperglomasticannibalism I've stumbled upon that might as well be just noise paired with song and album titles meant to be as offensive as possible. It all comes across as juvenile nonsense from the absolute worst losers.

Also, I love him, but the solo Christopher Lee albums are truly some excellent garbage.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:26 am 
 

Anything from this band certainly qualifies

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Aa ... Blow/24613

If you're so inclined here is their Youtube channel where you can listen to most of their discography

https://www.youtube.com/@ab2hcb474/videos

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:34 am 
 

Fates Warning- Spectre Within. Goddamn what a letdown that was. Hookless, progressive in the worst way dreck.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:35 am 
 

Probably Isolation - A Prayer for the World to End.
Ordered the tape due to supposedly being black/doom like Dolorian, but it was atrocious. The vocalist sounds like a strangled dying cat or something.

Other than that Sonic Syndicate's We Rule the Night is among the worst crap i've heard with the metal tag on it. The single My Own Life gives me nausea.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:37 am 
 

KaiKasparek wrote:
Fates Warning- Spectre Within. Goddamn what a letdown that was. Hookless, progressive in the worst way dreck.


Lol there's no way this is the *worst* thing on the archives. A genuine masterpiece... a lot of the opposition to albums like this always just come down to "it didn't sound like what the hype led me to believe" or something.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:46 am 
 

Empyreal wrote:
KaiKasparek wrote:
Fates Warning- Spectre Within. Goddamn what a letdown that was. Hookless, progressive in the worst way dreck.


Lol there's no way this is the *worst* thing on the archives. A genuine masterpiece... a lot of the opposition to albums like this always just come down to "it didn't sound like what the hype led me to believe" or something.


Oh you're absolutely right, but I answered the question as the worst thing I have had recommended to me. I don't intentionally seek out intentional Z-grade crap.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:54 am 
 

KaiKasparek wrote:
Oh you're absolutely right, but I answered the question as the worst thing I have had recommended to me. I don't intentionally seek out intentional Z-grade crap.


So today I read that The Apparition is "intentional Z-grade crap". This is the shittiest take of the month, earning top spot a few days before the month expires, at the last minute! :thumbsup:

I recommend you listen to the Shadowmaker, for some self-reflection regarding your name.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:06 am 
 

KaiKasparek wrote:
Fates Warning- Spectre Within. Goddamn what a letdown that was. Hookless, progressive in the worst way dreck.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:55 am 
 

Maybe the most disappointing for me was Diamond Head - Death and Progress. I thought it was gonna be a comeback album after they keeled over for most of the 80s, but nope, it's barely metal and mostly generic hard rock, lacking the great riffs and distinctive vocals of their previous albums despite having the same guitarist and singer. Somehow it has Dave Mustaine and Tony Iommi guesting on two tracks, but you can hardly tell that they're on it with how much their talent is wasted. Even for its genre, it's an uninspired album.

Everything Victorius did after they stopped taking themselves seriously deserves a mention here as well; probably the worst case of a power metal band jumping the shark. And who can forget every one of the Graveyard Classics that Chris Barnes has bestowed upon us?

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Fates Warning- Spectre Within. Goddamn what a letdown that was. Hookless, progressive in the worst way dreck.

That album has some of the strongest and most unique hooks in all of prog metal. Only John Arch is able to make them work so well.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:12 pm 
 

The Spectre Within has "The Apparition," which is the greatest song Fates Warning have ever released.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:37 pm 
 

Hah, I thought that was a joke at first. But...serious...? It's not as good as Awaken the Guardian, sure, but it's at least a little above Emerald Force.

Pointing out that the OP was asking the worst album you've found on the Archives, not the worst you've had recommended to you here.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:38 pm 
 

There are far worse bands in the archives than Metallica and Fates Warning.

Any D-tier power metal is awful, most of slam metal is also terrible, let's be real here.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:24 pm 
 

The "dissapointing" element is in all the albums that I've considered bad, the fact of making the decision to listen to a particular musical work already makes expectations come into play, and if I've made the decision to listen to something new it's because I intend to like it. It is true that there are some works that you listen to already knowing beforehand that they are going to be bad, but if you are already aware of that perception, you are not really going to be able to dislike it in the same way as something that you really intended to like. In fact some of these works universally considered "bad" are easier for me to enjoy than the classics, bands like If I Could Kill Myself or Anal Cunt have their imperfections but I've come to value them and find them inspiring knowing that they are works that depend on a specific mood of mine. So the great percentage of albums that I've discovered here that I haven't liked are by notable bands (besides, it's more fun than commenting on a tier F band that hardly anyone knows).

Regarding what has been said about Fates Warning, I'm going to refer to "Awaken the Guardian" which is one of the only two albums of the band that I've listened to, and the truth is that I understand its detractors more than its fans, it's an album with a strange rhythm and tonality, each individual seems to be playing a different song at the same time, it's not a work I've really delved into so I can't say I hate it, but it really managed to make me want to stay away from listening to Fates Warning (although I did like "No Exit").

Finally answering with examples to the original question, I can think of a few examples, the biggest of all is probably Focus by Cynic, it's really an album that repulses me on every possible level, I hate their vocals to unimaginable levels, I feel it's pretentious and with an attitude that the members really despised death metal and considered themselves more intelligent and sophisticated than everyone else in the scene. I've tried to appreciate it on the musical side but it's already purely visceral hate what I feel for the album, I've tried several times to give it a review but I really want it to be a fair one and at the moment I can't find the words.

Another example could be Cold Steel.... for an Iron Age by Destroyer 666, I hate it not because it's a horrible album per se, but it's the one that takes away everything that made D666 a good band and opts to become a black/thrash band, plus it has the song "Raped" with one of the worst lyrics I've ever read.

Tol Cormpt Norz Norz Norz Norz... by Impaled Nazarene is another one of the worst things I've ever heard, probably it has to do with the fact that I listened to Ugra-Karma before, which is one of my favourite black metal albums of all times.
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The Fates Warning albums with Arch are definitely ones you really have to delve into to understand... casual listening won't show you all they're about...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:52 pm 
 

I've reviewed a number of truly terrible turds from the 90s that would qualify if I didn't already know about them before I came to this site, but since these are albums that were discovered on MA, I'd definitely go with the first Waking The Cadaver album, though to be fair, they got much better after their second album when they upgraded their production and moved away from their deathcore sound. The Ishitrobots 2007 demo "Hollywood Holocaust" was another bad one, though once again, they had a pretty substantial redemption arc a couple years later.

On the Fates Warning question, I can understand somebody who only listens to high grade progressive metal not liking the John Arch era as it was more rooted in earlier traditional heavy metal and USPM stylings, it's basically on the opposite end of the spectrum of where Dream Theater took things in the 90s. That said, I don't know about calling it the worst album one has ever heard.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:58 pm 
 

Forever Underground wrote:
strange and inciteful things about Fates Warning and Cynic


Everything you wrote is the same old arguments people throw out to denigrate prog; "the band members sound like they're all playing a different song", "sooooo pretentious", "they think they're better/cleverer than everyone else", etc.

Cynic were sophisticated musicians but they did not hate death metal or think they were too good for the scene. What the fuck? Did you think death metal wouldn't evolve stylistically or attract virtuosic musicians who wanted to push boundaries? Focus is a classic and its influence is immense.

Please don't attempt to review Focus if you can't place it within the context it deserves. We don't need your review.

This fucking thread has already gone off the rails if we're mentioning classic albums in a worst albums discussion. Thank you OP you asshole.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:12 pm 
 

Not one single mention of Lulu yet makes me believe the tides are turning and everyone is about to FINALLY admit what a masterpiece it is like so often happens with misunderstood and under appreciated albums throughout the history of recorded music.

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All kidding aside, I do really like it, and I know a couple others here do, too. I'm just shocked it hasn't come up yet.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:18 pm 
 

There's no need to get so angry about someone's subjective opinions. If you would chill out and read calmly you would see that at all times what I say about Cynic (except for the vocals) is based purely on what Focus transmits to me and makes me feel, it's not hate for hate's sake, I love Atheist and would choose their 4 albums every day over Focus because I prefer a thousand times how they incorporate all the technical and progressive elements aswell as the jazz influence and at no time do I feel they lose ferocity and grit.

And Fates Warning in "Awaken the Guardian" have an extremely particular approach that I've never heard from any other band, I don't think it's so strange that I don't like it at first if I haven't delved into it.

But I find it funny that your response to the " same old criticisms" is to make a fallacy while you don't contribute more than saying "They're classics so they must be good" as if you were really contributing something else to the conversation. But I'm not surprised by your childish attitude.
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Lol I didn't imagine I'd have to school you on why ATG and Focus are classics. You mention yourself that Fates had a deliberately particular approach to writing within a trad metal framework so there's your answer. Otherwise you're being disingenuous if you assume my thinking is "they're classics so they must be good".

You usually seem to know what you're writing about FU so I don't feel inclined to baby you through why these are great albums that don't belong in this discussion.

The ubiquity of the Unpopular Opinons-style of discussion has seeped into everything we talk about these days that it's deadening the heft of a good argument. If you want to go against a universally lauded album, contextualize it first before giving a bad take.
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Terri23 wrote:
Anything by Belita Adair. She's a now 60 something porn actress (star is a touch too much) who founded some kinda Satanic cult. She's put out a number of terrible black metal under the band name Satanic Corpse. There's a real rabbit hole in there with her background. Thanks for connecting me to this travesty of music MA random band button!

Update: I haven't listened to anything she's done in years. It turns out she's got a number of projects going on, all with her as the sole member.

Oh shit man, how did I forget about Satanic Corpse? Same unhinged vibes as The Great Kat.

I would nominate any Zarach Baal Tharagh or Animae Capronii demo for my worst finds, but I’m sure that by now I’ve heard even worse bands whose names I can’t recall.
Come to think of it, the worst examples of poorly made metal I’ve come across don’t even come from the SBBM scene, but rather those early 00s beauty-and-the-beast gothic doom/death bands with off-key singing and boring chugs for riffs.
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People here naming Cynic, Impaled Nazarene, Destroyer 666, and Fates Warning really didn't understand the thread.

We aren't talking about albums that you don't like, we are talking about the worst albums that exist in the Encyclopaedia.

For example, listen to this shit.



Show me something worse than this shit lmao.
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That doesn't seem to be in the archives...?

The worst shit in the archives that isn't some "outsider art" like Animae Capronii must be Van Canto. Pure cancer.
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CreepingDeath16 wrote:
That doesn't seem to be in the archives...?

The worst shit in the archives that isn't some "outsider art" like Animae Capronii must be Van Canto. Pure cancer.


Yeah, that shit isn't on the archives, my bad. Pure cancer though.
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The Least Successful Human Cannonball. Fuck that album and anything like it.

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If you guys want to hear really bad slam metal, that is in the archives listen to Uga Uga. This is completely retarded "music".



And this one isn't on the archives but is extremely bad too. I don't think this would pass the mods, even as a joke band.

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Baha, I always forget about Lulu. So terrible. This is a stealth Fates Warning discovery thread for some people here, apparently. Doing yourself a disservice of metal (?) by not giving those albums at least a couple spins!
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Forever Underground wrote:
Focus by Cynic ... I hate their vocals to unimaginable levels


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Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote:
If you want to go against a universally lauded album, contextualize it first before giving a bad take.

Yeah, too bad all I did was answer the OP's question, the take on Fates Warning wasn't even originally mine, I just gave my two cents on the subject and didn't even say anything malicious or insightful about Awaken the Guardian. And about Focus I made a superficial and subjective comment so as not to leave it at a simple name dropping, I already said I wanted to give it a good review if I'm ever able to explain exactly why I don't like it. Overall I stressed as best I could at the beginning of my commentary why I made my choices and my understanding of what the OP asked, I was clear about that and I was very light on what I said about the albums because I wanted to avoid the kind of commentary you made, and yet when you saw it even you could have ignored it or responded to me in a more constructive way you decided to play the emotional game and answer me with in the most rude way possible.

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People here naming Cynic, Impaled Nazarene, Destroyer 666, and Fates Warning really didn't understand the thread.

We aren't talking about albums that you don't like, we are talking about the worst albums that exist in the Encyclopaedia.

No, we're talking about the worst albums we've ever found on MA. So why is it so hard to understand that those albums I quote are the worst I've discovered in MA? I'm not going to answer "Perverse Recollections of a Necromangler", "The Least Successful Human Cannonball" or the Animae Capronii albums because I simply haven't listened to them and have no interest in doing so. They are bad and everyone hates them so why should I waste my time with bad music?

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Focus by Cynic ... I hate their vocals to unimaginable levels


What do you think of the 1991 Roadrunner promo?

I haven't listened to the Cynic demos, tomorrow I'll listen to this one and I'll tell you.
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hells_unicorn wrote:
Waking The Cadaver album

I've listened to that album and it's decent. It's nowhere near the worst albums in history. It's only hated because it was trendy to hate it.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:42 pm 
 

Forever Underground wrote:
Another example could be Cold Steel.... for an Iron Age by Destroyer 666, I hate it not because it's a horrible album per se, but it's the one that takes away everything that made D666 a good band and opts to become a black/thrash band, plus it has the song "Raped" with one of the worst lyrics I've ever read.


Man, this album rules what are you talking about. Sure it doesn't have the more grandiose and epic vibes of it's predecessors but it's great black/thrash with some amazing riffs on there. Sure "raped" is completely tasteless and KK is a fucking racist loser, but that doesn't take away from what a great album this is and it sounds like you're exacerbating your gripes with it because you find that particular song offensive, your review of the album really shows this.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:43 pm 
 

Infestment - Evulsion of Mortal Birth



Hard to believe the dude behind it has actually been involved in some respectable stuff because this is pure amateur sounding shit.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:47 pm 
 

KaiKasparek wrote:
Fates Warning- Spectre Within. Goddamn what a letdown that was. Hookless, progressive in the worst way dreck.


Kai, sometimes you scare me.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:01 pm 
 

I_Am_Vengeance wrote:
Forever Underground wrote:
Another example could be Cold Steel.... for an Iron Age by Destroyer 666, I hate it not because it's a horrible album per se, but it's the one that takes away everything that made D666 a good band and opts to become a black/thrash band, plus it has the song "Raped" with one of the worst lyrics I've ever read.


Man, this album rules what are you talking about. Sure it doesn't have the more grandiose and epic vibes of it's predecessors but it's great black/thrash with some amazing riffs on there. Sure "raped" is completely tasteless and KK is a fucking racist loser, but that doesn't take away from what a great album this is and it sounds like you're exacerbating your gripes with it because you find that particular song offensive, your review of the album really shows this.


Yeah, he didn't understand the thread, he just ranted about regular albums that he doesn't like.
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