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Southern Freeze
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:06 am 
 

liking this guy and was thinking of purchasing an album.Was wondering though if anyone new if i shalt become were nsbm?as i don't support that shit.

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MalignantThrone
Vanished in the Cosmic Futility

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:18 am 
 

I'm pretty sure he's not, but even if he was you should buy all of his albums anyways because ISB are seriously stellar.
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which ones are mainstream cuz i will stop listening to them

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Wilytank
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:34 am 
 

What gave you the idea that he was in the first place?
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Southern Freeze
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:43 am 
 

Wilytank wrote:
What gave you the idea that he was in the first place?


just because they released a demo under the name "Birkenau"

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MalignantThrone
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:03 am 
 

bloodycumshit wrote:
Wilytank wrote:
What gave you the idea that he was in the first place?

just because they released a demo under the name "Birkenau"

There are plenty of bands who take their band/album names from such unsightly NS concepts such as the Holocaust (see also, well, the NWOBHM Holocaust) without actually supporting the ideologies that drove those things into existence. It's not like every band called "massacre" legitimately supports the "indiscriminate and brutal slaughter of people".

Besides, most NS band names, from my experience, go beyond generally historical references to national socialism (such as the Holocaust) and instead choose a name that can be more generally applied to NS sentiments as a whole, such as Aryan Terrorism. Also, when being serious about their NS themes they're usually a lot, lot tackier (one of my favourite examples being Jewicide).
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GravityLapse
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:44 am 
 

Not necessarily, there's dog whistle NSBM like Satanic Warmaster, who have winking songtitles like "My Dreams of 8" but when pressed will give some canned answer like "X is not a political band," and then whine about being unfairly oppressed after being blacklisted from venues/festivals and such - ironically enough. For some reason these kinds of people that think "intolerance" is awesome seem to also inherently crave the attention of persecution. But yeah, on topic, it says right on the Birkeneau page that it has nothing to do with NSBM, but on the "horrific nature of mankind," so I'm pretty sure you're in the clear as far as I Shalt Become goes.

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Southern Freeze
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:14 am 
 

GravityLapse wrote:
Not necessarily, there's dog whistle NSBM like Satanic Warmaster, who have winking songtitles like "My Dreams of 8" but when pressed will give some canned answer like "X is not a political band," and then whine about being unfairly oppressed after being blacklisted from venues/festivals and such - ironically enough. For some reason these kinds of people that think "intolerance" is awesome seem to also inherently crave the attention of persecution. But yeah, on topic, it says right on the Birkeneau page that it has nothing to do with NSBM, but on the "horrific nature of mankind," so I'm pretty sure you're in the clear as far as I Shalt Become goes.


splendid!!
almost tempted to just download "Wonderings" off i tunes.just so i can drown out all this christmas cheer tonight.

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vengefulgoat
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:11 am 
 

Why would someone refuse to buy NSBM album if they like music? (and NS isn't a turnoff that would stop them from listening to the music.) Do you honestly think money from those albums goes for weaponry used for jewslaughter or rebuilding death camps? Or you think somebody with NS beliefs doesn't deserve earning money, basing that judgement solely on what he thinks. I'm pretty sure buying various metal albums we've supported bigger assholes, drug junkies etc than your typical non-criminal 'NSBM' musician.

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Southern Freeze
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:27 am 
 

vengefulgoat wrote:
Why would someone refuse to buy NSBM album if they like music? (and NS isn't a turnoff that would stop them from listening to the music.) Do you honestly think money from those albums goes for weaponry used for jewslaughter or rebuilding death camps? Or you think somebody with NS beliefs doesn't deserve earning money, basing that judgement solely on what he thinks. I'm pretty sure buying various metal albums we've supported bigger assholes, drug junkies etc than your typical non-criminal 'NSBM' musician.


id rather give throw 20 bux to a junkie and pirate a nsbm album...but that's just what i think

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vengefulgoat
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:39 am 
 

bloodycumshit wrote:
vengefulgoat wrote:
Why would someone refuse to buy NSBM album if they like music? (and NS isn't a turnoff that would stop them from listening to the music.) Do you honestly think money from those albums goes for weaponry used for jewslaughter or rebuilding death camps? Or you think somebody with NS beliefs doesn't deserve earning money, basing that judgement solely on what he thinks. I'm pretty sure buying various metal albums we've supported bigger assholes, drug junkies etc than your typical non-criminal 'NSBM' musician.


id rather give throw 20 bux to a junkie and pirate a nsbm album...but that's just what i think

Honestly, good that you added a disclaimer, because I wouldn't accuse you of thinking before submitting such post.

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Southern Freeze
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:04 am 
 

i knew someone with a haughty attitude would have to jump in,i got the answer to my question, now shut up!

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~Guest 226319
President Satan

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:33 am 
 

I interviewed S Holliman once and confirmed that he is not NS. Neither ISB or Birkneu are NS.

Agreed that ISB is great and you should buy all the albums.

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~Guest 226319
President Satan

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:36 am 
 

Also, teaser from the upcoming album "Louisiana Voodoo" is available here: http://www.inspiredhaterecords.com/

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misogynisticfeminist
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Joined: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:10 am
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Location: Germany
PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:47 am 
 

Although this thread may not be active for too much longer, thanks for making me aware of this band. Good stuff :hail:

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Absorbed
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Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:36 am
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:46 pm 
 

Same here. Awful thread but, in fact, good band.

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