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Elrosx
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:24 am 
 

The opening track from the new album has been released, called Diabolic. [youtube] https://youtu.be/frMkdkCV2D0[/youtube]

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TafferLad
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:41 am 
 

Pretty damn boring
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Zdan
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:06 am 
 

Nothing grabbed me. The main riff sounded like a play on "Terror Train". I will reserve judgement until I hear the full album but not impressed by this.

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Discordant
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:56 am 
 

It has some catchy riffs but the song doesn't go anywhere. The intro/outro is too long and the keyboard-effects during the chorus doesn't fit. My hopes dropped significantly for this album...
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Twisted_Psychology
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:57 am 
 

This is definitely different for them, slower paced but not in Schaffer's usual mid-tempoisms. I can see this growing on me.
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exsiccation
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:24 pm 
 

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cultofkraken
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:58 pm 
 

Hansi sounds great but he’s buried by mediocre instrumentation that doesn’t go anywhere. Disappointed sadly as I had higher hopes. Oh well will still give the album a try.
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therealvivs
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:39 pm 
 

I quite like the song, to be honest. Doesn't floor me or anything, but it's pretty solid. It somehow manages to be familiar and yet somehow different than usual. Production seems decent as well.

Having in consideration that they've mentioned the new material was going to be different from previous albums and modern (always cringe when bands use the word modern...) plus the fact that last offerings from both Blind Guardian and Iced Earth didn't do much for me, I have to admit I do enjoy this song, it's quite entertaining for what it is.

I think people also should have in consideration that the first (and best) release by this project is now 2 decades old, so the new material is most likely going to sound different than what most might want/expect.

Also, is this going to be included in the official soundtrack of Diablo IV? Cause it kinda could...
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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:07 pm 
 

Kinda underwhelming.
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ChildClownOutlet
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:38 pm 
 

Yeah honestly, it really doesn't need to be that long, not a bad song by any means though. Just kind of plodding.
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LycanthropeMoon
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:07 pm 
 

It's not bad but they need to cut the fat from it a bit.
I'll probably hold off on a pre-order until I hear another song.

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Zelkiiro
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:42 pm 
 

It's certainly very adequate. Not generating any real amount of hype from me just yet, but we'll wait and see what other single comes around.
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Trashy_Rambo
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:29 pm 
 

Much like the album cover, that was pretty bland. Hansi still sounds great, but the vocal melodies aren't nearly strong enough for him to carry the entire song this time around.
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Lyrici17
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:09 pm 
 

That song was just okay at best for me. I hope that's not what they consider their best track.
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Twisted_Psychology
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:54 pm 
 



Another new song streaming, another slowish one. Looking like this album will be okay. Just okay.
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Zelkiiro
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:00 pm 
 

This 2nd track may also be mid-paced, but its hooks are much better than the 1st song's. I like this one quite a bit.
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Smoking_Gnu
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:18 pm 
 

Song's bland, but this is most vicious Hansi's sounded since the 90s. Hopefully he brings some of that into the next BG album.
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LycanthropeMoon
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:36 pm 
 

This mix of hard rock and power metal in "Midas Disease" is just making me want to listen to the last Avantasia album, since it does that blending of styles far better. Something about both these singles comes off as empty to me, so I can't see myself throwing money down on a preorder at all. Oh well, money saved for better things, I guess!

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blackmantram
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:48 pm 
 

I don't know, people are being too harsh here. I liked both songs, it still has that Hansi/Schaffer chemistry that made previous works enjoyable. It definitely sound softer (rather than weaker), but I don't have a problem with a band becoming softer as long as it doesn't mean fucking up with their sound, which is not the case here

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ChildClownOutlet
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:38 pm 
 

Hansi sounds great in the second song. The song isn't too bad. Didn't have a lot of filler like the first song but still kind of meh. Diabolic did not need to be that long.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:33 pm 
 

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Mellifleur
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:49 pm 
 

Agreed with that. ^

Hansi is good as usual, but the music is really lacking in any pizazz. D&W is already a band that has a fairly "generic" sound, the only thing that really stood out about them was the Blind Guardian connection. Going any more "normal" is definitely the wrong direction. This band really needs to find an X factor and up it to 11.
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jimbies
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:47 pm 
 

sounds a lot like AC/DC for the better part of it. Not sure I'm into this (which is kind of ironic because I've been on a huge AC/DC kick lately.)

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Kathaarian Life Coach
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:30 pm 
 

complete garbage

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cultofkraken
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:17 am 
 

I thought it was AC/DC at first but then the vocals were not Brian Johnson and so that was immediately better. Holy hell this is some bland music aside from the vocals. Really flatlining my interest in this whole album.
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Zephirus
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:42 pm 
 

i don't think they'll ever top that first album, it was a bit of a fluke
brilliant album that didn't really need a follow up
those new tracks aren't telling me they've topped it anyway

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Raw Ride
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:48 am 
 

It's not really grabbing me outside of Hansi's vocals. Maybe it'll still surprise with a couple of highlights somewhere in the middle or towards the end, who knows. It might at least make for a great companion piece to Blind Guardian's orchestral album at least.

Ah well, back to waiting for new Persuader.

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jimbies
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:39 am 
 

Another new video is out now:



My favourite of the three new songs they've released, but it still seems to only go half-way. The video reminds me a bit of an Icelandic film from a few years ago called Rams.

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Evoken
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:27 am 
 

Wow, that video is cheesy and has some extra lame effects. Maybe it needs to go into that The Most Embarrassing Points in the Careers of Metal Bands thread lol.

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Trashy_Rambo
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:17 pm 
 

That definitely has the best vocal melodies of the new songs, though they still don't measure up to the old D&W material. The guitars, however, add absolutely nothing. It's like Schaffer set out to do as little as humanly possible!
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metroplex
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:31 pm 
 

So bland not even Hansi can save it.

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TafferLad
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:40 pm 
 

Not impressed by any of these songs, don't think we'll see any Blood on my Hands's....
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blackmantram
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:47 pm 
 

Holy Shit that ending actually made me laugh, how glorious!!
About the song itself, I still can't find a reason to hate it: It's exactly what I'd expect from 2020 D&W.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:56 pm 
 

blackmantram wrote:
Holy Shit that ending actually made me laugh, how glorious!!


Oh my GOD I couldn't even handle that. What the actual hell did I just see.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:24 pm 
 

None of the songs have really done it for me.

But also, is it just me or is the production atrocious especially on the drums? Those high hats are annoying the living crap out of me with how high and upfront they are!

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Mellifleur
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:20 am 
 

blackmantram wrote:
Holy Shit that ending actually made me laugh, how glorious!!
About the song itself, I still can't find a reason to hate it: It's exactly what I'd expect from 2020 D&W.

The whole thing is hilarious, but what truly slays me is the guy doing the crab pose, pretending rocking, in front of the green screen glacier. Just imagine him in the studio doing that!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:27 am 
 

Mellifleur wrote:
blackmantram wrote:
Holy Shit that ending actually made me laugh, how glorious!!
About the song itself, I still can't find a reason to hate it: It's exactly what I'd expect from 2020 D&W.

The whole thing is hilarious, but what truly slays me is the guy doing the crab pose, pretending rocking, in front of the green screen glacier. Just imagine him in the studio doing that!


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rafa_hell
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:39 pm 
 

Schaffer has been shit since their older albums (and bland since after the first 2 albums from Iced Earth). If not for Hansi, people would never care about this project.

It sounds like Iced Earth with Hansi on vocals, which is very sad cause is a waste of everyones time

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Discordant
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:13 am 
 

Best of the new songs so far, but not impressed... I pretty much only listen to their first anyway and it doesn't seem like that will change
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Lyrici17
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:20 am 
 

I don't really follow Iced Earth; does Schaffer not write galloping-style riffs anymore? This song is the best one yet so far, but pretty much only because of Hansi's vocals (which isn't as much of a draw for me). Still just okay. At this point, I'd need to listen to the whole thing before I'd buy, and I'm not very optimistic.
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