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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:41 pm 

eViLbOrIs wrote:
CF_Mono wrote:
Well, albums that I should think impact the future of metal and albums that will are two different things.

/lame analyses

This is quite true, especially in the short term. The trend movements, such as metalcore, djent, hipster BM, etc. usually make a sudden but brief impact, creating an equally sudden but enduring reaction from the trend-averse metal community in general, which ultimately renders those movements innocuous as far as leaving a lasting impression on 'metal'.
The impact and resulting influence left by the progenitors of said movements, ie. At the Gates, Meshuggah, Agalloch, respectively, will inevitably carry on in some form or another.

That said, here are a few artists and albums that I would not mind seeing future bands take a few cues from:

Ihsahn - From Anthems... and onward, Emperor was always a step ahead of the BM game as far as I'm concerned, but he's really been taking his songwriting to the next level on his past three albums. Nobody writes such jagged yet melodic solos, and Eremita and After have been two of the most seamless examples of how genre marriages can work. Black, doom, and prog metal have never sounded so happy together.

Triptykon/Celtic Frost - Admittedly these bands are tough acts to even dare to try to imitate, but I'm surprised that no one has taken a shot at it yet. Two records that are of a kind, that stand completely unique from everything else that's out there. Monotheist and Triptykon's album (whose title I cannot spell), might have changed the face of metal, were there any bands talented enough to follow up on what they started.

Disillusion - A lesser known, lesser appreciated choice. Their first album, Back To Times of Splendor, combined everything good about melodic death, gothic doom, the heavier side of folky prog, and the darker side of power metal, and the result was a masterpiece. For their second album, Gloria, they scratched everything but the theatrics, went back to the drawing board, and came back with a genre-defining work of cinematic industrial prog metal. It won't be everyone's cup of tea, but it's worth a listen.

There are more, but I'm outta time here.

Thank you for the response, and you nailed it with this post. I try not to bring up Warriors work all the time because I'm a rabid Celtic Frost fanboy, but his last two albums have had a profound impact on how we can look at and expand the definition of metal. You are correct in saying however, that few bands have come close to imitating their sound. I think Serpentcult was obviously influenced by these doom albums though (more on Weight of Light than their last album.)
Don't worry about my opinion.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:00 am 

Bestialdamnation wrote:
I don't know what will impact the future of metal as I don't have a crystal ball, but here are some releases I like.

Disma-Towards The Megalith
Vomitor-Devil's Poison

Other newer bands I find to be relevant

Ares Kingdom
Blasphemic Cruelty (the best current band in FL IMO)
Bestial Raids
Cultes Des Ghoules
Nocturnal Vomit
Embrace Of Thorns
Negative Plane (though I thought their newest one was shitty)
Dead Congregation
Morbid Insulter
Necros Christos
Cemetery Urn

I like your style!

Lot of bands i never expected to see mentioned in this thread i must admit.

I agree with Ares Kingdom, Blasphemophagher. Ares Kingdom is playing a smart style of deathrash, while Blasphemophagher show progression in war metal by letting their albums have good production.

Also Devil's Poison over Bleeding The Priest?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:51 pm 

I'd say that Vektor will prove to be very influential in the coming years, particularly as the Municipal Waste style of retrothrash enters its death throes. Hexen's massive style shift between their first and second seems to be influenced by Vektor's approach quite a bit: their first album was a lot more "fun" and retrothrash sounding, but four years later, they've got super-long and progressive songs with very serious and philosophical lyrics. Even Bonded by Blood went for a sci-fi concept album in 2010. Bands might not straight-up copy Vektor, but I foresee a lot of bands adopting their songwriting approach (progressive, complex stuff instead of the more straightforward Exodus/S.O.D. style of most retrothrash) in order to survive.

Nokturnal Mortum's last full-length (yeah, not 2010, but December 26 of '09 is about as close as one can get) was an amazing album, and the rest of the Eastern Bloc scene seems to follow what they do quite a bit. Witness the jumping ship away from Satanism and towards National Socialism that took place during the early '00s, and then the jump to a more P.C. Wotanism/Paganism philosophy in the latter part of the '00s. N.M. was at the forefront of both movements. Maybe this is just wishful thinking, but I wouldn't be surprised if more bands picked up on Voice of Steel's style.

Albums don't have to be "good" to determine the future of metal. I predict that the overwhelmingly negative reception Handful of Stars and Old Silver Key got signals the approaching death of shoegaze/black metal stuff. I believe that if those albums had come out a few years earlier, they would have been highly lauded, but nowadays people are just getting sick of the style. The "OSDM" well seems to be running dry as well. More original bands like Horrendous and Disma might make it through, but I wouldn't be surprised if the style as a whole starts to die off in a year or so. Lackluster reunion efforts of old bands like Uncanny and Interment will precipitate this fall, but the biggest culprit is sheer oversaturation: the death of every artistic movement.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:53 pm 

I think Silent Stream of Godless Elegy's 2011 release Navaz is a great of example of folk metal done right with female vocals done right. It sounds very organic unlike the "forced" sound of bands like Korpiklani or Finntroll, and it never sounds cheesy. I think more bands should use this album as an example rather than the more traditional and established folk metal sound which is becoming stale with every passing year.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:20 pm 

InfernoxDeath wrote:
I find Desultor's debut release, "Masters of Hate" highly potential.

I found that to be a great album. At first I thought clean vocals on extreme metal would sound off but they managed to make it work.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:53 pm 

I know it's just before the 2010 mark, but Nokturnal Mortum's Voice Of Steel will likely be viewed as a future cornerstone in pagan/viking or NS black metal. I feel like it's jut popular and well made enough to be considered a classical of the time period, I could easily be wrong, although I'm not seeing any strong contenders. Now, how many will cite it as a direct influence is another matter.

EDIT: Oops, it was already brought up! Guess I'll have to second it.

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