Encyclopaedia Metallum: The Metal Archives

Message board

* FAQ    * Search   * Register   * Login 



Reply to topic
Author Message Previous topic | Next topic
ChaosGod
Metal newbie

Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:36 am
Posts: 111
Location: Lebanon
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:12 am 
 

I was thinking today of bands that used classical instruments in their albums and still pulled a solid extreme metal track excluding Folk and Pagan Metal bands!!! (Of course I am not talking about Keyboards here as well but Saxophone, Cello, Violins and the likes)

I can name only a few from the top of my mind and am eager to hear more if you guys can think of anything...

At the gates,
Shining,
Ihsahn,
Angantyr.

Please share your thoughts as I would like to explore more extreme metal (Black, Death, Thrash or the subgenres) bands that managed it correctly;
_________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGKgmmUUaHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMTboynNgSY
http://www.osmoseproductions.com/headin ... oteon.html
http://www.facebook.com/KAOTEON

Top
 Profile  
Conservationism
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:48 pm
Posts: 431
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:19 am 
 

Cadaver used a cello, I think. And a tuba on the first album.
_________________
DEATH METAL CULT
Open Directory: Grindcore

Top
 Profile  
Kveldulfr
Veteran

Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:01 pm
Posts: 3698
Location: Nowhere
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:00 am 
 

Arcturus - Ad Astra has a string quartet on it. 'For to end and Yet Again' has some brass on them.

Maybe you're looking for stuff like Therion and Haggard?

Solefald's Icelandic Odysset pt I and II feature sax if counts.
_________________
Forestfather Facebook - Folklore black metal.
Er Murazor Facebook - Melodic death/black metal
ÆRA bandcamp- Pagan black metal

Top
 Profile  
PhilosophicalFrog
The Hypercube

Joined: Thu May 04, 2006 7:08 pm
Posts: 7548
Location: United States
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:12 am 
 

Umm...Azrael probably.

They use a contrabass as a bass guitar and it's pretty awesome because it's just used in the metallic context - instead of a lot of bs ways that supposedly "classically" influenced metal bands use. So, it makes the sound really cavernous and deep. You'll prolly dig - but it's extremely minimalist black metal.
_________________
hats prices are at an all time low

Spoiler: show
║\
║▒\
║▒▒\
║░▒║
║░▒║with this blade
║░▒║i cut those who
║░▒║disrespect
║░▒║Carly Rae Jepsen
║░▒║
║░▒║
║░▒║
▓▓▓▓
[█▓]
[█▓]
[█▓]
[█▓]

Top
 Profile  
ChaosGod
Metal newbie

Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:36 am
Posts: 111
Location: Lebanon
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:32 am 
 

Kveldulfr wrote:
Arcturus - Ad Astra has a string quartet on it. 'For to end and Yet Again' has some brass on them.

Maybe you're looking for stuff like Therion and Haggard?

Solefald's Icelandic Odysset pt I and II feature sax if counts.


I am looking for Extreme Metal bands that used exotic instruments and still pulled a dark and obscure metal sound (not the likes of Therion and Haggard - These bands played Distorted Classical Music with Growl and what's not).

For Example - Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFv4QxXC3_E
Go to 4 minutes 25 seconds
_________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGKgmmUUaHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMTboynNgSY
http://www.osmoseproductions.com/headin ... oteon.html
http://www.facebook.com/KAOTEON

Top
 Profile  
Bishop_Drugsalot
Metalhead

Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:42 am
Posts: 497
Location: Finland
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:43 am 
 

Well, the two latest Septic Flesh albums are a must-mention, since they used The Prague Philharmonic Orchestra (all +100 members I believe) on both albums.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BJqlcNX9dE

Also, Sigh has lots of classical instruments on their latest efforts, though I'm only sure about the sax being actually played..

Top
 Profile  
ChaosGod
Metal newbie

Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:36 am
Posts: 111
Location: Lebanon
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:45 am 
 

This song by Shining is worth mentioning as well....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khu33cldtKU
_________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGKgmmUUaHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMTboynNgSY
http://www.osmoseproductions.com/headin ... oteon.html
http://www.facebook.com/KAOTEON

Top
 Profile  
ChaosGod
Metal newbie

Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:36 am
Posts: 111
Location: Lebanon
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:46 am 
 

I have some ideas for our upcoming album but while composing I was curious to check what's out there...

Septic Flesh did a great job but that kind of production is too different from what I seek though I must admit it exceeded my expectations!
_________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGKgmmUUaHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMTboynNgSY
http://www.osmoseproductions.com/headin ... oteon.html
http://www.facebook.com/KAOTEON

Top
 Profile  
The Lions Den
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:12 am
Posts: 1567
Location: Italy
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:50 pm 
 

Nile.
_________________
"You're all the same, the lot of you, with your long hair and faggot clothes. Drugs, sex…every sort of filth. And ya hate the police, don't ya?"

"You make it easy."

Top
 Profile  
Deadly_Slaughter
Metal newbie

Joined: Mon May 12, 2008 7:12 pm
Posts: 117
Location: United States
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:54 pm 
 

Fleshgod Apocalypse have used a lot of classical influence in their albums. But im not sure if it is keyboards or actual musicians; still badass though

And then their is Cthonic (not sure if i spelled that right) but they are from Japan and use some native instruments in some of their tracks. Haven't heard them a ton, but they are pretty solid.
_________________
My band:
http://www.reverbnation.com/skeletonizer
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Skeletoni ... 82?ref=sgm
http://www.youtube.com/user/SkeletonizerLV?feature=mhum

Top
 Profile  
Opus
Veteran

Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2002 11:06 am
Posts: 2769
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:34 am 
 

If you consider saxophone a classical instrument, then Pan.Thy.Monium.
Here's the sixth track from Dawn of Dream:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-JjH6CzkwY
_________________
Do the words Heavy Metal mean anything to you other than buttcore, technical progressive assgrind or the like?
true_death wrote:
You could be listening to Edge of Sanity right now, but you're not!

Top
 Profile  
Twisted_Psychology
Metal freak

Joined: Sat May 16, 2009 8:22 pm
Posts: 4260
Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:07 pm 
 

Sigh was the first band that came to mind, especially if saxophone is a classical instrumental. I've only heard In Somniphobia in its entirety but the title track from Hangman's Hymn also had some pretty awesome use of orchestration.
_________________
Spirit Division (Stoner/Doom): http://spiritdivision.bandcamp.com
My solo acoustic project (Dark Folk/Blues): http://christophersteve.bandcamp.com/
Lavaborne (Heavy/Power/Doom): https://lavaborne.bandcamp.com

Top
 Profile  
u_sir_r_a_faggot
Metalhead

Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:50 am
Posts: 467
Location: Bangladesh
PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:50 pm 
 

Carpathian Forest has used saxophone in their later albums.

Dominia has a regular violinist in their line up.

Dark Lunacy used a string quartet in their earlier albums.
_________________
http://www.last.fm/user/witch_possessed

Top
 Profile  
Wilytank
Not a Flying Toy

Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:21 am
Posts: 5093
Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:16 pm 
 

Deadly_Slaughter wrote:

And then their is Cthonic (not sure if i spelled that right) but they are from Japan Taiwan and use some native instruments in some of their tracks. Haven't heard them a ton, but they are pretty solid.


FTFY
_________________
booK_of_blood wrote:
booK_of_blood wrote:
Khanus' sound and aesthetics both seem pretty singular to me; I doubt whether any parallels can be drawn between the former and any other band out there...


The most ridiculous claim ever made, this should be a classic signature, but I'm too lazy...



Last.fm

Top
 Profile  
ChaosGod
Metal newbie

Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:36 am
Posts: 111
Location: Lebanon
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:06 am 
 

u_sir_r_a_faggot wrote:
Carpathian Forest has used saxophone in their later albums.

Dominia has a regular violinist in their line up.

Dark Lunacy used a string quartet in their earlier albums.



Will check Dominia
_________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGKgmmUUaHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMTboynNgSY
http://www.osmoseproductions.com/headin ... oteon.html
http://www.facebook.com/KAOTEON

Top
 Profile  
ChaosGod
Metal newbie

Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:36 am
Posts: 111
Location: Lebanon
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:09 am 
 

Opus wrote:
If you consider saxophone a classical instrument, then Pan.Thy.Monium.
Here's the sixth track from Dawn of Dream:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-JjH6CzkwY



Yeh I remember this one - Been a long time - Thanks!
_________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGKgmmUUaHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMTboynNgSY
http://www.osmoseproductions.com/headin ... oteon.html
http://www.facebook.com/KAOTEON

Top
 Profile  
Commandaunt
Metalhead

Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:31 am
Posts: 572
Location: Bolivia
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:48 am 
 

You have to check out Sear Bliss, they have a trombone player who tours with them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-B0Wx9JndU This song is fantastic, haunting and epic.

Top
 Profile  
maladie
Metal newbie

Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:42 am
Posts: 219
Location: Norway
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:45 am 
 

Fleshgod Apocalypse use VSL that is rather poorly programmed and compressed quite a bit so it can go over the death metal. Poor man's classical really.

Sear Bliss is pretty interesting in their use of instrumentation imo. I would absolutely love to hear Emperor backed by an actual orchestra although it would probably never worked. There's often such a big difference in orchestration and treatment of the orchestra within metal that would make the real thing pale in comparison. Quite possibly because classical music is generally full of dynamics while metal has a rather limited range (most of the time at least).

Top
 Profile  
WingedOctopus
Metal newbie

Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:41 pm
Posts: 226
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:56 am 
 

Want to give another nod to Sear Bliss. The trombone parts are extremely well done, muted on this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsCIP-jw1Oo

Although it isn't used in the rest of their music, Hacksaw to the Throat has a wonderful piece in the middle of their album http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoEzh_gBjVk

This song by Giant (post-metal, not sure if it counts as extreme metal) ends with a beautiful cello part http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4oNxHAAYnI
Cephalic Carnage's Orwhurm has some excellent sax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK0CeKTmKRI

maladie wrote:
Fleshgod Apocalypse use VSL that is rather poorly programmed and compressed quite a bit so it can go over the death metal. Poor man's classical really.

...There's often such a big difference in orchestration and treatment of the orchestra within metal that would make the real thing pale in comparison...

Agreed wholeheartedly. Synthesized instruments don't capture the nuance of a real musician and their instrument. Not only that, but I always feel the person writing for the instrument should be someone that has an intimate relationship with it.

Top
 Profile  
maladie
Metal newbie

Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:42 am
Posts: 219
Location: Norway
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:48 am 
 

The problem isn't that it's a "synthesized" (they're not synthesized instruments, they're actual sample libraries, big difference), it's that most people using these sample libraries have a) absolutely no experience in proper orchestration or classical composition b) have very little knowledge of each instrument and how it is properly played (i.e. making it sound realistic from an articulation point of view) c) they don't take the time to learn the library in and out/ have poor MIDI skills.

A lot of the music you hear on TV, in movies and in games is played with such sample libraries today and it does fool most people.

Top
 Profile  
joppek
Metalhead

Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:36 am
Posts: 1531
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:40 am 
 

first thing that came to mind was this piece by schostakovich, which has immolation and nile written all over it
_________________
All the best bands are affiliated with Satan. -Bart Simpson

Top
 Profile  
Littlewolf
Metal newbie

Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 4:18 am
Posts: 186
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:44 pm 
 

surprised nobody's mentioned Ne Obliviscaris yet - they have a full-time classical violinist who also provides clean vocals...
_________________
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Top
 Profile  
SingLoco
Metal newbie

Joined: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:39 pm
Posts: 75
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:28 pm 
 

Check out Enmity (brutal death metal) playing Severe Lacerations, it's classical guitar solo.
_________________
Last.fm

Top
 Profile  
Subrick
Metal freak

Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:27 pm
Posts: 7890
Location: United States
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:47 pm 
 

A shitty classical guitar solo.

Ne Obliviscaris have a violinist. Their songs generally have ambient sections in them driven by the violin and clean guitar, and they're quite lovely to listen to.
_________________
Earthcubed wrote:
I'm just perpetually annoyed by Sean William Scott and he's never been in a movie where I wasn't rooting for his head to sever by strange means.

Blacksoul Seraphim Gothic Doom Metal

Top
 Profile  
SingLoco
Metal newbie

Joined: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:39 pm
Posts: 75
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:57 pm 
 

Subrick wrote:
A shitty classical guitar solo.

Ne Obliviscaris have a violinist. Their songs generally have ambient sections in them driven by the violin and clean guitar, and they're quite lovely to listen to.


To each their own, I guess. That was the first example that came to mind, I don't think it's badly performed and it uses lots of the standard techniques classical guitar players incorporate into their playing. Ne Obliviscaris may be a better example though. Can't really think of any others right now.
_________________
Last.fm

Top
 Profile  
schizoid
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:35 am
Posts: 1346
Location: New Zealand
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:55 pm 
 

Opus wrote:
If you consider saxophone a classical instrument, then Pan.Thy.Monium.
Here's the sixth track from Dawn of Dream:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-JjH6CzkwY


Thanks for bringing this band to my attention. Cant believe they escaped my radar all these years.
_________________
add me on Untappd! https://untappd.com/user/ChairmanDrew

Top
 Profile  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: colin040, DarthVenom, Dungeon_Vic, Kladusha, Metal81, OzzyApu, qmist, ThanatosUK, thrashinbatman and 30 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

  Print view
Jump to:  

Back to the Encyclopaedia Metallum


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group