Holy shit, that is indeed some rare stuff. If she has any Rotting Christ or Varathron demos, let me know.

Links please?



I'm pretty sure that she doesn't have the demos. However, I got Varathron's Walpurgisnacht from her on tape as well as the first two Desaster albums (on tape, too).

She could also try to find some early Obsecration stuff as she knows Dead in person

www.e-bay.de

but I can send you the files soon. I have made a rip of it.

I have the files. The physical copy is want I want to find

Someone into Unholy Crucifix and Goatchrist?

Not me but they seem interesting

Unblack isnt a subgenre of black metal. Thats why its called *UN*black.

I think its because death metal is much more mainstream than black metal. There are lots of hyped, popular bands which attract most of the attention, while most bands remain obscure internationally.

On the other hand, black metal is still quite underground. There is no hype machine popularizing few bands at the expense of most others. As a result the various bands/scenes stand on a much more equal footing. Black metallers looking for new, good or unique music therefore need to do their homework, searching out new bands and scenes. Due to this even bands with totally obscure backgrounds can become popular in the online black metal world simply through word of mouth.

That would be an explanation but Hellenic Death Metal is way more underground than Hellenic Black Metal (with the exception of Septic Flesh).

Thats actually sort of the point Im trying to make. There is no such thing as a black metal mainstream, which is why all black metal bands stand on pretty much the same footing, theyre all underground.

On the other hand, in death metal, there are a lot of mainstream bands which dominate the genre. Theres lots of media out there influencing what death metal bands the common death metaller listens to (as opposed to black metal where one has to explore the genre on ones own). Most death metallers simply stick to the few mainstream bands, while most other bands remain forgotten.

Oh, and before I forget again, thanks for the Raventale link!

Seeing as there are quite a lot of Hellenic Black supporters here. What makes it so special?

To be honest all I know is Onyx (Nocternity) which is just great. And of course Rotting Christ is no stranger either.

Oh, I misundestood your post then

You have a point here then. It's true that the average newbie Death Metaller doesn't have to do as much homework as the average newbie Black Metaller. That may be a reasoning for the fact that Hellenic Death Metal is underground.

However, that does not explain the fact that HDM (Hellenic Death Metal) is more obscure than HBM (Hellenic Black Metal). It just doesn't make sense as most big HBM bands are affiliated with HDM bands. Akis Kapranos aka Lethe, who plays drums in Nocternity, Thou Art Lord, Order Of The Ebon Hand etc. also plays in Horrified and Septic Flesh. Bokos of Rotting Christ also plays in Obsecration. Sound Pollution (which had a member of Varathron) were close friends with Rotting Christ. In the early 90s Varathron and Necromantia called their music "Occult Death Metal" and most HDM and HBM bands gigged together. That explains the common influences of HDM and HBM bands but doesn't explain why HDM bands are so relatively obscure.



What makes Hellenic Black Metal special is the diversity of riffs, the existence of solos and the heavy presence of keys that are neither symphonic nor ambientish.

Actually, Nocternity along with Naer Mataron are the less characteristic Hellenic Black Metal bands. Nocternity and Naer Mataron are way too Norwegian to be characterized Hellenic Black Metal actually.

Check them out.
Underground Beherir worship.Chaos!!

Sounds interesting. I'll check them

Hellenic both death and black metal underground is unique shit in whole underground circle.Total support to the old and split up cults.
By the way,maybe not related to BM to much but someone have listen and purchase new Septic Fleash album?

Hehe, you are right. The Hellenic stuff is pure gold.

I have the new Septic Flesh and it's good. A tad inconsistent maybe, but overall good. Especially songs like "Sunlight Moonlight", "Anubis" and "We, The Gods".

I have listened to it and I'll buy it if I have enough money remaining (I'm picking up some older Greek releases now so I don't have enough spare money). It's the good old Septic Flesh

Mostly, although I can't get into "Lovecraft's Death" at all. It seems so lackluster to me.

Lovecraft's Death is a somewhat weak song. Anubis on the other hand kicks major ass

Im big fan of that band and think they are underated but who cares about that.
After the first attacks I mostly likes Sumerian Daemons which is a masterpiece of occultism.
Need to hear the new one.

Septic Flesh are very involved with the Occult in general. I think that Seth is more involved in Occultism than the others but I'm not sure. He is a great artist (I think painter), too.

I think he is designer and he make a great shits.The work that he make on Sumerian daemons Cd released on Hammerheart records (rip) is amazing.Total occult shit.

You're right, he is a designer. My mistake.

Anubis and Sunlight Moonlight are the two best songs on the album, imo

I haven't heard the full album so I don't know. I've only heard the MySpace songs. Shame on me

Yes brother shame on you you live in Greece and havent buy it already..he,he..

Yeah, seriously, shame on Mors I don't think it's very hard to get.

It's not hard to get. I can find it for 10 or 12 Euros very easily. It's just that I spent 59 Euros last week in order to get Kawir's debut (in the original book-Cd version that I'm so proud of ), Wrathblade's War Of The Titans (I thought it was Mournblade ), Macedon Harrier's Rise Again and Flame's In Agony Rise. Now, you can understand why I'm broke

what about the canadian scene?

I'm a complete newbie in the canadian scene but Blasphemy, Revenge, Conqueror, Domini Inferi, Axis Of Advance, Monarque and Frost are good bands.

ok, i'll try to find something on ebay.
thanks

Well, I still think the Kawir demos are the band's best material and do you know what site you are on? Mournblade only has one self-titled album

Eumenides is probably better than To Cavirs but still To Cavirs is amazing. Have you tracked down Eumenides?

Of course "The Adored Cry of Olympus" is one of my favourite songs evere. "Sinn - the Blazing Queen" from the demo is awesome as well.

Sinn is a very good song but it doesn't matches the greatness of "The Adored Cry Of Olympus", "Eumenides", "To Cavirs" and "Daughters Of Night". By the way it's my idea or the middles sections of "To Cavirs" and "Daughters Of Night" are essentially the same?

I'm just a huge fan of Necroabyssious' vocals, that's why I like Sinn so much

Well, I think many song parts on "To Cavirs" are a tad too similar, that's one of its shortcomings, imo. For some strange reason, I find myself listening to "Artemis" the most. It's an utterly simple and event-less track, but i find the acoustic-keyboard-distorted riff combination in there extremely chilling.

Came here looking for Hellenic Black Metal, and I can say I got what I was looking for. In the meantime though - any Melodic Black in the vein of Clad In Darkness or Wormtongue? It doesnt have to be from the US.

One more great Greece black metal band-HEPTAMERON!!!

Hmm, what do they sound like? Any comparisons?

Like early Samael with a touch of greek school.
Also check out the Freezing Fog if you like total Ug primitiveness.