Has anybody listen TM bands from Argentina such as Hermetica, Horcas, Malon or V8???

Sounds like emo-thrash.

Also, Razor was a mediocre thrash band.

False. They are a great Thrash band.

I wouldn't call them the best of the best, but I do respect how incredibly consistent they've been. Dave Carlo had a vision for straightforward thrash and so far he has stuck to his guns, which I really do appreciate. I think Evil Invaders alone is enough to rocket them out of "mediocre" status. I do have a hard time sitting through the albums with Bob Reid though.

Not the best of the best, no, but great nonetheless, for the same reason bands like Omen were good for the Traditional Metal genre.

I don't know why everyone's got a problem with Bob Reid. His vocals are fucking perfect for Razor.

Thats the part that bothers me, actually. I like his vocals, yet somehow every album after Sheepdog's departure fails to really hold my attention. I think the problem was more with Carlo than Reid.

edit: Fuck it I have to listen to Shotgun Justice now and try to figure this out.

I don't understand how that's possible. I believe Carlo wrote his best material with Bob Reid on vocals. They always had this nasty speed metal stench that carried with their music up until Violent Restitution.

The reason I don't like Razor is because it's thrash, and that's it. It just sticks to the elementary traits that make it belong to the genre. But yeah, I better give them another listen.

That's exactly why I like them. They are bare-bones, leather and spikes motherfuckin' Thrash, and they don't need any extra bullshit to write good songs. Different strokes for different folks and all, but yeah, that is the reason why they're considered good.

Yeah, if thats the case you may never find yourself a big Razor fan. Personally thats the whole appeal of Razor for me. I know with relative assurance that when I put on a fucking Razor album I'm going to get balls out speed and aggression, without any stupid fucking acoustic breaks or pretentious tempo changes in the middle of a song that completely kills off all the momentum.

I listen to Serpentor sometimes and Ammentia is a pretty cool one man band.

And with Razor I just love them. Only heard Evil Invaders and Open Hostility and both are great. I love the catchy simple speed riffs and the vocals are great to.

Mortuary were rather Death/Thrash with emphasis on the Death side of things, I don't remember exactly though.

Speaking of Razor, it's a great band which can do no wrong in my eyes. Just wondering when the new album finally gets released.

According to what I heard, they're releasing a DVD (not sure about this one) and the album this year.

Finally! It's been sooooo long!

On topic: could somebody recommend me power/thrash a la Heathen, newer Destructor and newer Paragon? Preferably with adequate production and clean sound. A good idea of what I mean would be Destructor's "Storm of Steel" EP.

Ahh, ok. No wonder I don't like 'em. I like dynamics in the thrash I listen to.

Theory of Dynamics in Thrash:

The dynamic feeling is really achieved when the meter changes, not the tempo. It's effectively achieved by changing the meter from a compound one (e.g. 12/8) to a simple one (e.g. 4/4) with the starting of a break. Of course, the riff itself has to be good.

Examples of this type of switching the meter can be found in Darkness Descends: The Burning of Sodom, Death is Certain, Black Prophecies, Perish in Flames all have this sort of meter change.

Edit: Okay, this isn't really a theory, but rather a hypothesis. I haven't really did any experiment/gathered data to verify the hypothesis.

I don't believe you. You already have a thesis ready, don't you.

Dynamics usually refer to the change in volume, but perhaps you people in the US use it in a different context. Also there's few thrash bands that actually use complex meters and even less so in the more aggressive styles.

I am looking for album like Sepultura's Morbid vision or Vulcano's Bloody vengeance.The albums should be as raw sounding as it can get,with either old school death type of vocals or fast raspy shrieks like in vulcano.

There's plenty of albums out there just like early Sepultura and Vulcano. Sarcofago's INRI for one, is essential. Very raw Death/Thrash with a noticable Black metal tinge to them. You should also hear Mutilator's, MX's, Expulser's and Holocausto's debut. They have your name written all over them.

"Compound" in this case just means that one beat can be divided into three equal parts, as opposed to two in a simple meter. It doesn't have to do with the actual complexity of the time signature (not something weird like 17/21 or whatever...).

Compound doesn't necessarily mean three parts, it can be more and also two uneven parts.

/nerd

Yeah, I suspected that you would add some explanation to it.

I have heard Sarcofago,will try and get the others.Thanx.

I'm sorry, but Razor's greatest song ... TAKE THIS TORCH! , it's like the best bits of Exciter on steroids or something.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckin' metal.

Sextrash's Sexual Carnage is also essential. For non-Brazilian stuff, Bleeding the Priest by Vomitor is definitely worth checking out.

I just wanted to let everybody know that I put my first review for Merciless Death, Realm Of Terror up. So if you guys want to go check it and get an opinion on the album, go right ahead.

Rotting too but I think it has more BM influences anyway Alcoholic Coma is like a kick right in your nuts

What's his FB name (and yours )?

Definitely look into Paradox. The new album, Electrify is an inconsistent release though but tracks like Monument is really good. Heresy is their best album.

Collision Course was super inconsistent as well.

I quit FB, man. I don't remember his name, I'm horrible at remembering Japanese and Chinese names, but I contacted him because he made a post on Brutal Death Metal or a similar group. There's only a couple of those on FB, check em and you'll find his post on the wall. His name's Mochida Kazuhiro, as per MA.

Heresy is great, but overall I think Product of Imagination is a bit better.

Call me crazy but my favourite Paradox album is Electrify. Bottom line: check them all out.

Strangely enough, I learnt about Paradox about one year ago, but never listened to them. Looks like now is time to start.

Thank you to all who responded.

Check out Powermad to. Absolute Power is a great power/thrash release and one of my favorites.
Download Absolute Power and the Madness Begins EP from their website here.
http://www.powermadness.com/absolutemadness.zip

Bulldozer is back.

If you like Power/Thrash like Headhunter or Paradox then check these guys out. The new song sounds really good. Looking forward to this album.
http://www.myspace.com/hatredmoshcrew

Downloading now!