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colin040
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:16 pm 
 

Guess who's been active again... :lol:


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Jophelerx
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:29 am 
 

Whenever David says "we" I feel like he's just referring to all of his personalities. Seriously, this video makes John Cyriis look sane. Holy shit.

There are actually a few interesting thematic/lyrical points throughout but they're so overshadowed by the weird pitch-shifted multitracked narration and just general verbal masturbation by Defeis that I can't really take them seriously.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:52 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
So this band Wicked Mystic is pretty cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEuJ3oVT1Wo

Shame I can't even find more songs on Youtube easily, let alone Amazon. Might have to try Discogs or something to get this. There was one from their 2012 album also on Youtube, but that didn't sound very good, sadly.

edit: Oh I did find some more now that I scrolled down.


Been doing some deep digging around here to find some new stuff, and this is an absolute gem. Thanks man.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:05 am 
 

No problem. That one was discovered during a very bad period for me mentally.

So was Mystery Blue, which was brought up in the Now Playing thread the other day.

I ought to discover bands when I'm in a better place more often. Last year was pretty fucked, yet I'd still take it over this one any time.
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Rippingheadache
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:35 pm 
 

Can anyone recommend me any traditional or NWOBHM that uses a lot of spacey synthesizers or keyboards?

I prefer bands from the 80's since production values tend be rawer and organic sounding but I''ll include newer bands if you happen to think they're really good...

Some good full-length examples are:

Heavy Metal Army - Heavy Metal Army 1
Satanic Rites - Which Way the Wind Blows

Songs:

Iron Maiden - Somewhere in Time
Cloven Hoof - Astral Rider

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:42 am 
 

Rippingheadache wrote:
Can anyone recommend me any traditional or NWOBHM that uses a lot of spacey synthesizers or keyboards?

I prefer bands from the 80's since production values tend be rawer and organic sounding but I''ll include newer bands if you happen to think they're really good...

Some good full-length examples are:

Heavy Metal Army - Heavy Metal Army 1
Satanic Rites - Which Way the Wind Blows

Songs:

Iron Maiden - Somewhere in Time
Cloven Hoof - Astral Rider

Thanks!


I just mentioned them last page, but check out Exises:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:10 pm 
 

New Dark Forest album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEf0zoaMdY4&t=0s

It's good, but it didn't knock me over like the last one did. Less epic and "nicer". We'll see what a couple of more listens will do.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:12 pm 
 

I'm looking for very psychedelic heavy metal. Specifically NOT one of those bullshit 'cult doom metal' revival bands, but something with a lot of psych guitar solos and sounds, something that's sorta Hendrix style but heavy metal. Don't take 'like Hendrix' too seriously, just something that's psychey. Thanks

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Rippingheadache
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:07 pm 
 

Oblarg wrote:
I just mentioned them last page, but check out Exises:



Sounds promising so far!! Thanks for the recommendation.

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DoomMetalAlchemist
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:44 pm 
 

Osmiumthemetal wrote:
I'm looking for very psychedelic heavy metal. Specifically NOT one of those bullshit 'cult doom metal' revival bands, but something with a lot of psych guitar solos and sounds, something that's sorta Hendrix style but heavy metal. Don't take 'like Hendrix' too seriously, just something that's psychey. Thanks


Maybe Dwarr?

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The_Apex_of_Collapse
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:37 pm 
 

So every few years I come back here to ask for some fast paced euro style speedy, and aggressive, Power metal like it was in its prime a few decades ago. Still my favorite music that gets me pumped up. Most bands in the new nwothm style don't really hit that particular sound I find. So with that said, are there any new, or recent-ish, power/speed metal of the last few years that have that late 90's/early 2000's sound ie. Storm warriors first two albums, Brim Stones Carving a crimson career, or Wizard's Bound by metal? That speed metal infused power metal sound reminiscent of German metal bands like WOJ era Helloween, Scanner, etc

Examples:

Wizard (Song is silly as fuck, but the riffs are awesome)
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Brimstone (Harsh vocals but riffs are killer)
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Stormwarrior
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:39 am 
 

Please recommend me Finnish rock or metal bands like Viikate, espicially that sings on the Finnish language.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:22 am 
 

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Please recommend me Finnish rock or metal bands like Viikate, espicially that sings on the Finnish language.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:00 pm 
 

The_Apex_of_Collapse wrote:
So every few years I come back here to ask for some fast paced euro style speedy, and aggressive, Power metal like it was in its prime a few decades ago. Still my favorite music that gets me pumped up. Most bands in the new nwothm style don't really hit that particular sound I find. So with that said, are there any new, or recent-ish, power/speed metal of the last few years that have that late 90's/early 2000's sound ie. Storm warriors first two albums, Brim Stones Carving a crimson career, or Wizard's Bound by metal? That speed metal infused power metal sound reminiscent of German metal bands like WOJ era Helloween, Scanner, etc

Examples:

Wizard (Song is silly as fuck, but the riffs are awesome)
Spoiler: show


Brimstone (Harsh vocals but riffs are killer)
Spoiler: show


Stormwarrior
Spoiler: show


Cheers



Not a ton coming out in that style but a couple semi-recent ones that might interest you are Seax's most recent album Fallout Rituals, though it's more speed than power and not super German-sounding. (I'd recommend the track "Riders of the Oldworld," but there's no time tags for the songs in the YT upload).James Rivera also appears on ShadowKeep's most recent album from 2018, which is pretty cool power/speed metal.
Those are the best two to come to mind as far as that sound is concerned, in the last 5 years or so at least.
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The_Apex_of_Collapse
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:55 pm 
 

Jophelerx wrote:
Not a ton coming out in that style but a couple semi-recent ones that might interest you are Seax's most recent album Fallout Rituals, though it's more speed than power and not super German-sounding. (I'd recommend the track "Riders of the Oldworld," but there's no time tags for the songs in the YT upload).James Rivera also appears on ShadowKeep's most recent album from 2018, which is pretty cool power/speed metal.
Those are the best two to come to mind as far as that sound is concerned, in the last 5 years or so at least.


Thanks man, will check these out. it is funny you bring up James Rivera because another thread introduced me to Distant Thunder - Welcome the End and it is the first song on that album that kick started my nostalgia for this sound. It does sadden me that power metal kind of went in a different direction from that speed metal infused sound to another thing completely the last decade or so but sometimes there are diamonds in the rust.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:36 pm 
 

Definitely gonna need to re-do my review for Cirith Ungol - King of the Dead... a lot more knowledge of 70s rock has showed me how fucking good this really is. Reading Rob Garven's rant about it made me feel bad too.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:26 pm 
 

Oblarg wrote:

I just mentioned them last page, but check out Exises:


I'm really feeling this guitar tone right now
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Mysticaloldbard
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:47 pm 
 

This request may be a bit vague, so bear with me. I'm looking for a particular 80s metal style with the following characteristics:

- glam metal/arena rock production
- emphasis on sharp, dynamic riffing
- intricate but tasteful songwriting
- slightly bluesy
- preference for gritty, diverse vocalists

Basically, dark/heavy/aggressive borderline-glam metal. Stuff in the vein of Eddie Van Halen and Criss Oliva (early Savatage) riffs. This can be a hard style to find, because it might be to limited to a single track per album (with the exception of Savatage), and you end up in a mire of blues rock glam bands with no heaviness to their riffs.

I'll provide some examples, and a few of these bands aren't in the Archives, so you see how inconsistent this style is:

Rough Cutt - Take Her (all of this)
Savatage - Unusual
Whitesnake - Still of the Night
Anthem - Lay Down
Ratt - Lay It Down (opening riff)
Dokken - Lightnin' Strikes Again
Motley Crue - Too Young to Fall in Love (riff at end of chorus)
Van Halen - On Fire (pre- and post-chorus riffs & solo)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:59 pm 
 

Element_man wrote:
Oblarg wrote:

I just mentioned them last page, but check out Exises:


I'm really feeling this guitar tone right now


I know, right? It's got such a fucking fantastic atmosphere. I love the whole production - massive gated reverb on the snare, punchy bass, cool keyboards.
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Don Karlos
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:00 pm 
 

[quote="Mysticaloldbard"]This request may be a bit vague, so bear with me. I'm looking for a particular 80s metal style with the following characteristics:

- glam metal/arena rock production
- emphasis on sharp, dynamic riffing
- intricate but tasteful songwriting
- slightly bluesy
- preference for gritty, diverse vocalists

Try These:
TT Quick - Medal of honor https://youtu.be/6b2ANv-0__Q
Malice - Licence to kill https://youtu.be/X0rKCB_Nvlw
Keel - The final frontier https://youtu.be/3SiLSFCOtJU

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:35 pm 
 

Mysticaloldbard wrote:
dark/heavy/aggressive borderline-glam metal.

King Kobra. Only the first album though, the second album stinks.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:25 pm 
 

Thanks for the links, guys! Enjoying what I'm hearing. I'd been meaning to check out Malice for awhile now. Started listening to the first Malice album too and I'm liking the Judas Priest vibe.

While I'm here, let me suggest the title track from Pulver's Kings Under the Sand. Dusty, slightly sleazy-sounding, with a marvelous slow solo in the middle section. LOVE when bands do the moody instrumental in the middle of a song. (As shared on Cruz Del Sur's Facebook a few moments ago.)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:18 am 
 

Can someone recommend some good melodic stuff in the vein of Jag Panzer, Liege Lord, Savatage etc. Sorry I can't be more specific.
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So you want US power metal?
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colin040 wrote:
Guess who's been active again... :lol:



Is that even new? I'm sure I've seen some of that before... :D

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Opus wrote:
So you want US power metal?


I'm looking for stuff that is heavy and traditional. Mainly lots of insane guitar solos and memorable riffs.
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sonic_enemy_333 wrote:
Opus wrote:
So you want US power metal?


I'm looking for stuff that is heavy and traditional. Mainly lots of insane guitar solos and memorable riffs.


Are you familiar with anything else in the style, or should we assume you're totally oblivious?

For example some of the more well-known USPM bands like Omen and Helstar would be good starting points if you aren't familiar with them. Omen's Battle Cry and Helstar's A Distant Thunder would be good places to start if you haven't heard them already.
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To be honest I like Liege Lord more than the others. Looking for that aggressive barking sound especially. Something of thrash influences definitely.
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Jophelerx wrote:
sonic_enemy_333 wrote:
Opus wrote:
So you want US power metal?


I'm looking for stuff that is heavy and traditional. Mainly lots of insane guitar solos and memorable riffs.


Are you familiar with anything else in the style, or should we assume you're totally oblivious?

For example some of the more well-known USPM bands like Omen and Helstar would be good starting points if you aren't familiar with them. Omen's Battle Cry and Helstar's A Distant Thunder would be good places to start if you haven't heard them already.


Guide me as though I know nothing. I have heard something here or there.
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2020 9:41 am 
 

So, I've been listening to Virgin Steele's Age of Consent again lately and I really like it these days. Sure, it's not a 100% epic album, but it really does get close to the grandiose sound that started on The Marriage of Heaven and Hell Pt I with all these melodic keys popping up more frequently. Even those 80's metal numbers are mostly driven by a series of cool riffs and DeFeis really started to shine as a vocalist on this album.

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sonic_enemy_333 wrote:
To be honest I like Liege Lord more than the others. Looking for that aggressive barking sound especially. Something of thrash influences definitely.

Probably a super obvious pick, but just in case you've been missing out, there's always Metal Church:

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2020 2:34 pm 
 

sonic_enemy_333 wrote:
To be honest I like Liege Lord more than the others. Looking for that aggressive barking sound especially. Something of thrash influences definitely.

I assume you're talking about Master Control with the "aggressive barking," so I'll try to keep that in mind with these recs.

The vocal style on Master Control definitely brings to mind Bruce Hall's style in Agent Steel - his vocals on Alienigma especially are very aggressive and barked, though a bit less melodically than Joe Comeau on Master Control. Hear for yourself:


Brian Allen's stint in Vicious Rumors definitely saw them move in a more aggressive direction, so I would definitely give Razorback Killers a shot. Listen:


While I personally find the album a bit too repetitive to enjoy, Attacker's The Second Coming is pretty close to that style as well.


Since you mentioned Jag Panzer as well, Steel Assassin's War of the Eight Saints feels a bit like an updated version of Ample Destruction to me (not to suggest that it's on that same level necessarily, but it's in the same ballpark).


Griffin's first album is another important one in this style of USPM, speedy and savage with the shrieks of Bill McKay:


I think that should be enough to get you started! I can rec more depending on what you like out of those! :) \m/
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Joe Comeau's voice reminds me a lot of Russ North on Cloven Hoof's Sultan's Ransom album. This is less aggressive than Liege Lord, but similarly well done old school metal:

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2020 8:36 pm 
 

Hard to pick the best out of that. But I mostly liked all of them. Including Cloven Hoof.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 12:32 am 
 

If I absolutely had to pick the best I would probably say Agent Steel. It's complete from all angles and has the required aggression.
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You might dig Forte-Stranger Than Fiction

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Looking for more stuff like King Diamond or Mercyful Fate.
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2020 11:50 am 
 

sonic_enemy_333 wrote:
Looking for more stuff like King Diamond or Mercyful Fate.

Obvious and obligatory:

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Cool. That's some good tunes.

This one I liked

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I'm interested in some recommendations for bands that sound similar to Virtue ( UK ) ...

They don't necessarily have to be NWOBHM by the way ...

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