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Kruel
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:23 pm 
 

http://www.myspace.com/epitomeofdarkness

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twophoton
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:44 pm 
 

Speaking of old school, who's heard this new Hail of Bullets cd (check out the url)? The MySpace songs are kickass.
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RedMisanthrope
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:48 pm 
 

OK everyone, I have a doozy for you. This is for my brother. He likes death metal, really, his two favorites are Cannibal Corpse and Nile. I've shown him a dozen different death metal bands but he just doesn't respond. Most of them are technical, so I have him listen to some of the old school ones. He likes a few of those (Death, Entombed, Dismember) but I'm quickly running out.

So I'm thinking some generic death metal, or worthy old school bands, or bands that play in vein of the old school death metal. Before you answer keep this in mind, this is for someone who thinks Altars of Madness is "ok" and "just can't get into Immolation".

Good luck, and thanks in advance.
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Kruel
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 pm 
 

Would something very straight forward do? If so, give him some Nunslaughter. Very old-schoold sounding and thrashy, too.

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RedMisanthrope
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:51 pm 
 

Kruel wrote:
Would something very straight forward do? If so, give him some Nunslaughter.


Straight forward/generic stuff will work. Nunslaughter is killer though, completely forgot about them.
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Jonpo
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:47 am 
 

I have a bit of an odd request. I'm listening to the first few Vital Remains albums here at work and I'm getting this feeling of "decadence" from the music. Sort of a superior, kingly aura. I guess "triumphant" might be another way to put it. I'd like some other death metal bands who can pull this off, preferably without the use of keyboards to force "atmosphere". The songs don't have to be lengthy, like Vital Remains, but I do enjoy the use of midpaced riffing that occasionally bursts into full speed ahead "destroy fucking everything" mode.
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Zdan
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:36 pm 
 

grindmonkey wrote:
twophoton wrote:
Speaking of old school, who's heard this new Hail of Bullets cd (check out the url)? The MySpace songs are kickass.


Hail Of Bullets = win


I just got the limited edition of that album. Total fucken win with the old Aphyx/Pestilence/Gorefest sound. Nothing beats old school DM really.

Speaking of which - anybody knows any new good DM bands from Europe? The Netherlands used to have a good DM scene but now I do not know one good modern band from there. Sweden has ton of new good new DM bands but that is about it. Europe really stinks when it comes to good new DM.

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twophoton
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:56 pm 
 

Zdan wrote:

Speaking of which - anybody knows any new good DM bands from Europe? The Netherlands used to have a good DM scene but now I do not know one good modern band from there. Sweden has ton of new good new DM bands but that is about it. Europe really stinks when it comes to good new DM.


Yeah, as someone mentioned earlier, check out Repugnant from Sweden. They already broke up, though.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:09 pm 
 

twophoton wrote:
Zdan wrote:

Speaking of which - anybody knows any new good DM bands from Europe? The Netherlands used to have a good DM scene but now I do not know one good modern band from there. Sweden has ton of new good new DM bands but that is about it. Europe really stinks when it comes to good new DM.


Yeah, as someone mentioned earlier, check out Repugnant from Sweden. They already broke up, though.


I know the Sweden bands. Almost all of them in fact. Nox is a good Netherlands band which is fairly new.

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Catachthonian
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:12 pm 
 

Zdan wrote:
grindmonkey wrote:
twophoton wrote:
Speaking of old school, who's heard this new Hail of Bullets cd (check out the url)? The MySpace songs are kickass.


Hail Of Bullets = win


I just got the limited edition of that album.

Is it any different from the regular one?

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Zdan
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:34 pm 
 

Catachthonian wrote:
Zdan wrote:
grindmonkey wrote:
twophoton wrote:
Speaking of old school, who's heard this new Hail of Bullets cd (check out the url)? The MySpace songs are kickass.


Hail Of Bullets = win


I just got the limited edition of that album.

Is it any different from the regular one?


It is semi-vinyl-like digipack and has a great bonus track. Reccomended for the extra song.

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Catachthonian
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:34 am 
 

Zdan wrote:
Catachthonian wrote:
Zdan wrote:
grindmonkey wrote:
twophoton wrote:
Speaking of old school, who's heard this new Hail of Bullets cd (check out the url)? The MySpace songs are kickass.


Hail Of Bullets = win


I just got the limited edition of that album.

Is it any different from the regular one?


It is semi-vinyl-like digipack and has a great bonus track. Reccomended for the extra song.

I have the regular one and it has all 12 tracks. And it's not a pirate CD, as I bought it sealed and with a Metal Blade sticker on it. :scratch:

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DeadGein
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:56 am 
 

Anyone knows melodeath bands in the vein of Unanimated, but with a modern production?

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Zdan
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:48 am 
 

Catachthonian wrote:
Zdan wrote:
Catachthonian wrote:
Zdan wrote:
grindmonkey wrote:
twophoton wrote:
Speaking of old school, who's heard this new Hail of Bullets cd (check out the url)? The MySpace songs are kickass.


Hail Of Bullets = win


I just got the limited edition of that album.

Is it any different from the regular one?


It is semi-vinyl-like digipack and has a great bonus track. Reccomended for the extra song.

I have the regular one and it has all 12 tracks. And it's not a pirate CD, as I bought it sealed and with a Metal Blade sticker on it. :scratch:


Hmm weird as hell. Same with a Sacred Steel album I bought once - they said only the digipack has a bonus track and it turned out all pressing have them. Oh well. Enjoy the great DM goodness.

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Catachthonian
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:53 am 
 

Well, reminds me of Candlemass' self-titled - "Mars And Volcano" was said to be the digipak-only bonus track, but it turned out to be the hidden track on the regular edition.

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Zdan
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:55 am 
 

Catachthonian wrote:
Well, reminds me of Candlemass' self-titled - "Mars And Volcano" was said to be the digipak-only bonus track, but it turned out to be the hidden track on the regular edition.


Guess it happens all the time. How did you like the album though? I love the doomy Asphyx tendencies it has - really makes for an old-school vibe.

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Catachthonian
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:58 am 
 

Zdan wrote:
Catachthonian wrote:
Well, reminds me of Candlemass' self-titled - "Mars And Volcano" was said to be the digipak-only bonus track, but it turned out to be the hidden track on the regular edition.


Guess it happens all the time. How did you like the album though? I love the doomy Asphyx tendencies it has - really makes for an old-school vibe.

It's a good album (especially love the intro), but it lacks something. Promo demo was much more powerful and overall better.

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SaintVenom
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:34 am 
 

Hey everyone
I don't know how successful this request will be but it's worth a try. I'm looking for some bands in the vein of Sadistik Exekution. I don't mean a lame clone band or anything like that but a band that captures the same sort of manic fucking chaos that Sad Ex creates.

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Catachthonian
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:39 am 
 

PM Bezerko, he should know.

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Abominatrix
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:24 pm 
 

Jonpo wrote:
I have a bit of an odd request. I'm listening to the first few Vital Remains albums here at work and I'm getting this feeling of "decadence" from the music. Sort of a superior, kingly aura. I guess "triumphant" might be another way to put it. I'd like some other death metal bands who can pull this off, preferably without the use of keyboards to force "atmosphere". The songs don't have to be lengthy, like Vital Remains, but I do enjoy the use of midpaced riffing that occasionally bursts into full speed ahead "destroy fucking everything" mode.


As I said earlier, check out some French death metal. Yeah yeah, French, decadence, it is such a cliché, but as far as their death metal seems to goo it really feels true. I actually made a thread about French DM a while ago, so maybe search out that?

Also, have you heard Timeghoul's two demos? I don't know if they quite fit what you're after as the music isn't very earthly ... they have science fiction themes and the music is quite unpredictable and runs the gamut from really menacing slow parts to raging and intense blasts. I kind of wish Nocturnus sounded like this band. Timeghoul don't use keyboards but their pretty damn progressive, especially the second demo (two songs, each near the ten minute mark) .. hearing them was a huge revelation for me, and to think they made these recordings in 1992/1994 is pretty awesome.
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Jonpo
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:50 pm 
 

Abominatrix wrote:
As I said earlier, check out some French death metal. Yeah yeah, French, decadence, it is such a cliché, but as far as their death metal seems to goo it really feels true. I actually made a thread about French DM a while ago, so maybe search out that?


I got Explosions of Elements but I haven't listened to it yet. The band page looks VERY promising. Great logo, respectable band picture. Looking forward to listening to it today. Haven't been able to find a copy of Misanthrope's album yet, but I will keep searching.


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Also, have you heard Timeghoul's two demos? I don't know if they quite fit what you're after as the music isn't very earthly ... they have science fiction themes and the music is quite unpredictable and runs the gamut from really menacing slow parts to raging and intense blasts. I kind of wish Nocturnus sounded like this band. Timeghoul don't use keyboards but their pretty damn progressive, especially the second demo (two songs, each near the ten minute mark) .. hearing them was a huge revelation for me, and to think they made these recordings in 1992/1994 is pretty awesome.


I've seen Thorgrim recommend them so many times, they've been in the back of my mind to check out. I'll definitely make tracking down their stuff a priority today.

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I listened to tracks 2-10 of The Advent on the way to work today. I don't have track 1 for whatever reason, I'm hoping its just a really fucking long intro? Anyways, track 2 and 9 were fucking amazing. Everything else ranged from good to very good. The vocals are such a great example of the Czech sound. Cavernous fucking bellows. I'll be checking out the rest of it on the way home today after work. Its odd how much some of the riffs remind me of the early Hellenic stuff. What are the chances that the early Czech and Greek BM bands were tape trading?
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Abominatrix
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:10 pm 
 

Jonpo wrote:
Abominatrix wrote:
As I said earlier, check out some French death metal. Yeah yeah, French, decadence, it is such a cliché, but as far as their death metal seems to goo it really feels true. I actually made a thread about French DM a while ago, so maybe search out that?


I got Explosions of Elements but I haven't listened to it yet. The band page looks VERY promising. Great logo, respectable band picture. Looking forward to listening to it today. Haven't been able to find a copy of Misanthrope's album yet, but I will keep searching.


Abominatrix wrote:
Also, have you heard Timeghoul's two demos? I don't know if they quite fit what you're after as the music isn't very earthly ... they have science fiction themes and the music is quite unpredictable and runs the gamut from really menacing slow parts to raging and intense blasts. I kind of wish Nocturnus sounded like this band. Timeghoul don't use keyboards but their pretty damn progressive, especially the second demo (two songs, each near the ten minute mark) .. hearing them was a huge revelation for me, and to think they made these recordings in 1992/1994 is pretty awesome.


I've seen Thorgrim recommend them so many times, they've been in the back of my mind to check out. I'll definitely make tracking down their stuff a priority today.

P.S.

I listened to tracks 2-10 of The Advent on the way to work today. I don't have track 1 for whatever reason, I'm hoping its just a really fucking long intro? Anyways, track 2 and 9 were fucking amazing. Everything else ranged from good to very good. The vocals are such a great example of the Czech sound. Cavernous fucking bellows. I'll be checking out the rest of it on the way home today after work. Its odd how much some of the riffs remind me of the early Hellenic stuff. What are the chances that the early Czech and Greek BM bands were tape trading?


Haha, yeah, I'm sure the odds are pretty good that they did, although I remember Big Boss saying in an interview that in the early days of the band it was really difficult for them to play or receive any satanic music inn Czechoslovakia.. I think track one is a sort of cross between an intro and a song .. it's kind of slow and builds up to the second track, but it still has heaviness and those great bellowing vocals in it. I'll re-send it tonight. Dai's sense of humour really shows through in the last couple of tracks ..hhahah, you'll see. I just wish I knew what the hell that guy was saying. I'll have to ask a Czech one of these days.

I don't see how you couldn't enjoy Timeghoul. The fact that they never recorded an album is one of the great tragedies of death metal. I know that sounds really melodramatic but if more people had heard of them they'd probably be hailed right up among the very best, all the time.
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Catachthonian
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:14 pm 
 

Full-length... are there even any reissues of both demos?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:14 pm 
 

Abominatrix wrote:
The fact that they never recorded an album is one of the great tragedies of death metal.


I mourn this fact every time I listen to their demos, which is near daily.
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Abominatrix
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:18 pm 
 

Catachthonian wrote:
Full-length... are there even any reissues of both demos?


Nope, unfortunately. It'd make a nice package; someone should talk to the band about it. They used to have them for download on some site, but I dont' think it's there anymore.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:19 pm 
 

I was actually talking to Gordon a few weeks ago, I didn't bring up a possible reissue prospect though.

Anyway, fear not. Cosmic Atrophy's next album will be what Timeghoul's full length should have been, I will see to it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:40 pm 
 

rexxz wrote:
Anyway, fear not. Cosmic Atrophy's next album will be what Timeghoul's full length should have been, I will see to it.

I really hope so.

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It's unavoidable. Recently I have taken a compositional approach that is nearly the same as Jeff Hayden's on Panaramic Twilight. Plus, there is going to be a very unifying concept for the entire album; it's a narrative of At the Mountains of Madness. Everything flows in a logical fashion.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:11 pm 
 

How does Nile compare to the bands I listen to? I bought their latest CD from Best Buy but I'm a bit afraid of if I will like it or not.

Here's what I've been listening to over the last year or so:
Dark Tranquility - Fiction
In Flames(Almost all their stuff)
Children of Bodom - Blooddrunk
Hypocrisy - The Virus
Bloodbath - Nightmares Made Flesh
Dethklok
Rotting Christ - Theogonia
Lamb of God
Devildriver
Machinehead - The Blackening
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Feel free to drop Dethklok and expand on your Bloodbath-enjoyment and you'll become a full fledged deathmetalhead!
Go listen to Repugnant - Epitome of Darkness.


Hmm Repugnant is a bit trashier than I like...not bad, just not quite my thing, at least not yet.

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Deathwish238 wrote:
How does Nile compare to the bands I listen to? I bought their latest CD from Best Buy but I'm a bit afraid of if I will like it or not.

Here's what I've been listening to over the last year or so:
Dark Tranquility - Fiction
In Flames(Almost all their stuff)
Children of Bodom - Blooddrunk
Hypocrisy - The Virus
Bloodbath - Nightmares Made Flesh
Dethklok
Rotting Christ - Theogonia
Lamb of God
Devildriver
Machinehead - The Blackening
Droid

The only band from your list Nile is comparable with is Bloodbath. And don't lump Rotting Christ together with those bands. It deserves much better.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:46 am 
 

rexxz wrote:
It's unavoidable. Recently I have taken a compositional approach that is nearly the same as Jeff Hayden's on Panaramic Twilight. Plus, there is going to be a very unifying concept for the entire album; it's a narrative of At the Mountains of Madness. Everything flows in a logical fashion.


That sounds exciting. So that'll be the next project, after this one comes out on Suffering Jesus?

Also, just curious (not knocking your drum programming as it seems well done), but are you content with the way things are, or are you ever going to look for a drummer for recordings?
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Yes it will be the next album after Codex Incubo. I've already started with the lyrics. I think I actually want to finish all of those first this time, rather than the other way around.

Right now I don't really have plans on finding a real drummer but if anyone expressed interest I'd definitely see what they are capable of, and if they coul record at a level of quality I'd want.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:39 pm 
 

rexxz wrote:
Yes it will be the next album after Codex Incubo. I've already started with the lyrics. I think I actually want to finish all of those first this time, rather than the other way around.

Right now I don't really have plans on finding a real drummer but if anyone expressed interest I'd definitely see what they are capable of, and if they coul record at a level of quality I'd want.




Sounds great man. I'm looking forward to getting a copy of the debut.

And I'm in mourning with all of you in regards to Timeghoul. What an amazing band. I never listen to one demo by itself, I must always listen to Tumultuous Travelings and Paranamic Twilight together, sorta like a full-length :( It's the closest we'll ever get to one.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:47 pm 
 

Deathwish238 wrote:
How does Nile compare to the bands I listen to? I bought their latest CD from Best Buy but I'm a bit afraid of if I will like it or not.

Here's what I've been listening to over the last year or so:
Dark Tranquility - Fiction
In Flames(Almost all their stuff)
Children of Bodom - Blooddrunk
Hypocrisy - The Virus
Bloodbath - Nightmares Made Flesh
Dethklok
Rotting Christ - Theogonia
Lamb of God
Devildriver
Machinehead - The Blackening
Droid



Jarnroth wrote:
Feel free to drop Dethklok and expand on your Bloodbath-enjoyment and you'll become a full fledged deathmetalhead!
Go listen to Repugnant - Epitome of Darkness.


Hmm Repugnant is a bit trashier than I like...not bad, just not quite my thing, at least not yet.


It will be. Nile and Bloodbath do look a bit out of place on that list.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:47 pm 
 

I am looking for Melodic death metal with some balls but still some good clean parts like maybe something similar to nightrage

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Shiroryuu
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:47 pm 
 

Alocer7138r wrote:
I am looking for Melodic death metal with some balls but still some good clean parts like maybe something similar to nightrage


I guess you can try Neaera and Scar Symmetry. That's the only stuff I can think of at the moment.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:19 am 
 

Ya i know those bands, looking for stuff i don't know of besides those bands don't really fit what i said but thanks anyways

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Dark_Mewtwo1 wrote:
rexxz wrote:
Yes it will be the next album after Codex Incubo. I've already started with the lyrics. I think I actually want to finish all of those first this time, rather than the other way around.

Right now I don't really have plans on finding a real drummer but if anyone expressed interest I'd definitely see what they are capable of, and if they coul record at a level of quality I'd want.




Sounds great man. I'm looking forward to getting a copy of the debut.

And I'm in mourning with all of you in regards to Timeghoul. What an amazing band. I never listen to one demo by itself, I must always listen to Tumultuous Travelings and Paranamic Twilight together, sorta like a full-length :( It's the closest we'll ever get to one.


Yes, I always listen to the two together as well. The disparity of sound isn't really that much so it almost is a full length, yeah.
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